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Walking Dead 3/22 - no comic book spoilers please

To continue the theme from last week, and a good suggestion from another poster, here is my top 5 most likely to live and most likely to die. Considering the finale is next week, I expect a good bit of death to occur.

Live
1. Rick
2. Daryl
3. Carl
4. Carol
5. Michonne
(Judith is also safe, but she's not really a character)

Die
1. Nicholas
2. Gabriel
3. Sasha
4. Pete
5. Glen
(I think there will be deaths of some ancillary characters, but wanted to try and pick key people)
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Originally posted by nynole1:

Originally posted by SoddyNole:
absolutely. Rick is becoming a lot like Shane.
I am glad I am not the only one who sees it this way. Then again, I thought losing Shane was a big blow to the group and the show at the time.
Watch the movie Fury, he's almost the same character.
 
Originally posted by TreyNoles:
To continue the theme from last week, and a good suggestion from another poster, here is my top 5 most likely to live and most likely to die. Considering the finale is next week, I expect a good bit of death to occur.

Live
1. Rick
2. Daryl
3. Carl
4. Carol
5. Michonne
(Judith is also safe, but she's not really a character)

Die
1. Nicholas
2. Gabriel
3. Sasha
4. Pete
5. Glen
(I think there will be deaths of some ancillary characters, but wanted to try and pick key people)
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According to a Norman Reedus interview, fans will need tissue and will be screaming at the tv during the finale. I can't find the interview, but remember seeing something online. I'm guessing the mystery guest on Talking Dead is the biggest character that will die, and Daryl and Carol are safe since they are already announced. I'd add in a Maggie to who could die based on this, but I don't think the producers would kill of the last Greene. I'm not sure who/what Norman is referring to though.
 
Some more thoughts. Alexandria brought in the Ricktatorship group for a reason. Rick, isn't the type to pull a gun for zero reason even in a fit of rage. Rick only uses the threat of death for those he really cares about (i.e. the claimer group who tried to rape his son, the hospital group because they had Beth, etc.). In this case he is fighting to save the people of Alexandria from themselves and to keep his folks alive after Noah's death.

Glen was also a double standard character in this episode. In one breath he tells Rick that his group is now part of Alexandria. In another breath he's trying to control Alexandrians by telling one of them he can no longer go outside of the wall. And like Deanna said, "what if Nicholas doesn't comply?" I'm sorry Glen you can't have it both ways. Either you follow Deanna's rules or you take control and tell them what to do.

Deanna has no control. To let violence occur in her own town shows that. It's why the people of that town started to follow Rick, GI Ginger, etc. with no problem. I can't see anyone in Rick's group agreeing to Rick being exiled. Besides, who the heck would stand up to them? Who could fight them? Alexandria citizens are cowards. Rick's group is a seasoned killing machine.

I feel Reg is dead and the moment he dies the structure of the wall is gone. I think Enid is a spy for the bad guys outside. I have no idea what's going on with Morgan or what will happen with Aaron and Daryl.
 
Originally posted by TreyNoles:
To continue the theme from last week, and a good suggestion from another poster, here is my top 5 most likely to live and most likely to die. Considering the finale is next week, I expect a good bit of death to occur.
Safe
1. Rick
2. Carl
3. Deanna
4. Michonne
5. Daryl (he's on the aftershow, so there's a chance, but I don't think Reedus' quotes would refer to his own character)
(Judith is also safe, but she's not really a character)

At Risk
1. Nicholas
2. Sasha
3. Glen (one or both of Nicholas & Glen will die)
4. Pete
5. Carol (see Daryl above)
 
For the record...Rick should not have fought the guy for beating his wife. And the lady should not have ignored the fact it was going on all because he was surgeon. They both were wrong for different reason, causing conflict.

Rick also need to stay the hell away from Carol. She is bat shit crazy to me at this point and needs to be sent the away again. I think it's because of Carol on why he lost his cool. She has a way about her...like that kid all up her arse now. Rick is no better than the kid.
 
I'm guessing Carol will be killed in the finale possibly by Pete. It would be a nice character arc for her going from abused wife to dying to save an abused wife. Plus....the actress is on the Finale's Talking Dead. Never a good sign especially when the only other actor is Daryl.
 
So here's my guess at most likely to live and Die

Live
1) Rick
2) Carl
3) Michione
4) Aaron
5) Daryl

Dead
1) Carol
2) Eric
3) Pete
4) Reg
5) Nicholas

Sam would be 6 and Deanna 7.
 
Originally posted by FSUTribe76:
I'm guessing Carol will be killed in the finale possibly by Pete. It would be a nice character arc for her going from abused wife to dying to save an abused wife. Plus....the actress is on the Finale's Talking Dead. Never a good sign especially when the only other actor is Daryl.
Don't forget they have a mystery cast member as well. People figured out that the character who dies ends up on that episode of Talking Dead, so, they started listing mystery guests instead. Carol could still be in trouble, but I think both are safe because they are known. Carl was advertised this past week, Michonne, a few weeks ago, Eugene, Glen, and Noah all were last week when Noah died so that throws everything for a loop. But typically, I think when a mystery one is advertised, those that are named are safe.
 
Originally posted by fsugrad06:

Originally posted by FSUTribe76:
I'm guessing Carol will be killed in the finale possibly by Pete. It would be a nice character arc for her going from abused wife to dying to save an abused wife. Plus....the actress is on the Finale's Talking Dead. Never a good sign especially when the only other actor is Daryl.
Don't forget they have a mystery cast member as well. People figured out that the character who dies ends up on that episode of Talking Dead, so, they started listing mystery guests instead. Carol could still be in trouble, but I think both are safe because they are known. Carl was advertised this past week, Michonne, a few weeks ago, Eugene, Glen, and Noah all were last week when Noah died so that throws everything for a loop. But typically, I think when a mystery one is advertised, those that are named are safe.
I'm pretty sure Carol was the mystery. The two known were the producer Gimple and Daryl.
 
Originally posted by Formerly Rockymtnole:
I just can't buy the notion that this Alexandria group has survived this long untouched. It just not conceivable.
Perhaps the unknown group outside of Alexandria is a protector of those within the walls.
 
Originally posted by jeffy:
Originally posted by Formerly Rockymtnole:
I just can't buy the notion that this Alexandria group has survived this long untouched. It just not conceivable.
Perhaps the unknown group outside of Alexandria is a protector of those within the walls.
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Originally posted by jeffy:
Originally posted by Formerly Rockymtnole:
I just can't buy the notion that this Alexandria group has survived this long untouched. It just not conceivable.
Perhaps the unknown group outside of Alexandria is a protector of those within the walls.
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Originally posted by FSUTribe76:

Originally posted by fsugrad06:

Originally posted by FSUTribe76:
I'm guessing Carol will be killed in the finale possibly by Pete. It would be a nice character arc for her going from abused wife to dying to save an abused wife. Plus....the actress is on the Finale's Talking Dead. Never a good sign especially when the only other actor is Daryl.
Don't forget they have a mystery cast member as well. People figured out that the character who dies ends up on that episode of Talking Dead, so, they started listing mystery guests instead. Carol could still be in trouble, but I think both are safe because they are known. Carl was advertised this past week, Michonne, a few weeks ago, Eugene, Glen, and Noah all were last week when Noah died so that throws everything for a loop. But typically, I think when a mystery one is advertised, those that are named are safe.
I'm pretty sure Carol was the mystery. The two known were the producer Gimple and Daryl.
Nope, at the end of Talking Dead from Sunday, the announced guests were Gimple, Reedus, McBride, and a mystery cast member.
 
I think Nicholas shoots Maggie while aiming for Glenn. Glenn's been a real escape artist lately avoiding near death on numerous occasions. In the preview for next week he is shown crying over someone. The only person left in the group that he would cry over is Maggie.
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Originally posted by OriginalSwami:
I think Nicholas shoots Maggie while aiming for Glenn. Glenn's been a real escape artist lately avoiding near death on numerous occasions. In the preview for next week he is shown crying over someone. The only person left in the group that he would cry over is Maggie.
hhhmmm, that's a pretty good theory. Otherwise, if Glenn goes then Maggie will be roaming around like a psycho just like Sasha.
 
I am not sure they are going to kill off both sisters this season.
 
The rule that characters on the talking dead usually die isn't absolute. I forget who the 'mystery guest' was a few weeks back was, but they didn't die.

There is no group outside the walls protecting the ASZ. I know you guys don't want spoilers, but the show has stayed fairly close to the comic, only switching some deaths/injuries, and adding Daryl, and the people outside the walls are not protectors of the ASZ.

I can buy into Nicholas shooting someone, Maggie sounds like a solid candidate, but that would kind of suck to kill off her whole family line? Maybe he just wounds her?

Or maybe Nicholas kills Deanna or Reg? He sees Glenn giving his side of the story, decides to take matters into his own hands and misses, killing one of them and throwing the whole power structure into a tizzy...?

It seems like Deanna is leaning heavily towards kicking Rick out, but I think something happens in the finale that makes her realize he's right and/or they need him to stay more than they need him to go.

Has anyone seen/read about the theory that the chopped up walker Aaron and Daryl find in the woods is actually Morgan?

Top 5 Safe
Rick
Carl
Daryl
Carol
Sam

Bottom 5 Safe
Sasha
Nicholas
Pete
Gabriel
Reg
 
Originally posted by FSUSarah:
I did see that somewhere. But that would be lame to tease him and just end up having him cut up.
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I think the idea would be that some part of the finale or the introduction of the wolves would be them encountering and killing Morgan, in a flashback type of sequence. It could also be an entire episode in season 6, kind of like how they did that one with the governor walking around?

I agree though that it would be kind of lame. But as I understand it, that character has so many other commitments, it's hard to make him a big part of the show, so it might make sense for them to just kill him off soon, as fans of the show are getting annoyed that he keeps getting teased but not shown.
 
I read the theory on Morgan, I just don't believe it. That seems like very shallow writing.
 
Originally posted by tommynole3476:
The rule that characters on the talking dead usually die isn't absolute. I forget who the 'mystery guest' was a few weeks back was, but they didn't die.

There is no group outside the walls protecting the ASZ. I know you guys don't want spoilers, but the show has stayed fairly close to the comic, only switching some deaths/injuries, and adding Daryl, and the people outside the walls are not protectors of the ASZ.
Daenerys gets her arm bitten off by a dragon before making it back to the Iron Throne.
 
Originally posted by FSUTribe76:
I'm guessing Carol will be killed in the finale possibly by Pete. It would be a nice character arc for her going from abused wife to dying to save an abused wife. Plus....the actress is on the Finale's Talking Dead. Never a good sign especially when the only other actor is Daryl.
Don't forget that Sam wants a gun and is definitely capable of getting one on his own, since they are stored with the same amount of security as the chocolate that he purloined. He could walk in on the scene between Carol and Pete that was previewed and possibly shoot either one of them (accidentally or on purpose).

As others noted, there is a mystery guest on TD. But that could be a ruse to take speculation off of Carol/Daryl and keep one of their death's as a shock.
 
Originally posted by Bartdog:
Originally posted by tommynole3476:
The rule that characters on the talking dead usually die isn't absolute. I forget who the 'mystery guest' was a few weeks back was, but they didn't die.

There is no group outside the walls protecting the ASZ. I know you guys don't want spoilers, but the show has stayed fairly close to the comic, only switching some deaths/injuries, and adding Daryl, and the people outside the walls are not protectors of the ASZ.
Daenerys gets her arm bitten off by a dragon before making it back to the Iron Throne.
All right, the boiler explodes and destroys the hotel, and kills the dad.
 
I don't think anyone posted this, but Sasha is pregnant in real life. It would make sense to kill her off since they can't hide her and the belly in that guard tower much longer. I do not remember how she was dressed out in the woods when she decided to start mowing them down and ran out of bullets. Just a thought.
 
Originally posted by fmol4:
I don't think anyone posted this, but Sasha is pregnant in real life. It would make sense to kill her off since they can't hide her and the belly in that guard tower much longer. I do not remember how she was dressed out in the woods when she decided to start mowing them down and ran out of bullets. Just a thought.
That's interesting. They could probably hide the pregnancy well for the first part (depending on how far along she is) since filming is suppose to begin this summer, June I believe. I think with the previous episode for her, they won't kill her off, as they are trying to give her some story.

The more I think about the characters, I don't think any main character is gone:
Rick, Carl, and Judith are untouchable.
Daryl is too much of a fan favorite and with being able to go out and recruit, can find a niche.
Carol has way too much character depth to explore at this point and needs to be around.
Michonne is just about untouchable with her placement as the bridge between the Group and ASZ.
Maggie is the last Greene and just can't go yet.And by default, with all she has lost, Glenn needs to remain.
Abraham has too much potential and really is the most bada** left.
Euguene is on a path to redemption, and along those lines, Tara is in a coma and wouldn't get a proper Walking Dead send off.
Father Gabriel has way too much potential at this point.
These last two are the most "iffy" with Sasha having a weird, "I'm alone" story arc, and Rosita is Abraham's play thing.

I think all the red herrings point to an actual Morgan return. Maybe even the campfire is his and Daryl and Aaron find him in the finale?

At this point, of Wednesday afternoon (because I change my theory daily), I think Morgan is back in the finale; if, and this is a big if, a core group member dies, I think it's by "friendly" fire from Nicholas or Pete inside Alexandria; a redshirt or two will die at the hands of in-fighting, probably from Pete snapping and Deanna needing Rick to save them resulting in Rick not being kicked out and given control; the Wolves show up outside the walls, confirming everyone's theory about the "W's" and graffiti from Noah's old neighborhood; there will be a standoff to end the episode to lead in as a cliffhanger for Season 6 with the native ASZ members looking to Rick's group for leadership/safety.

That's summary/guess for this Sunday's 90 minute finale.

Edit: Oh, and I think the Norman Reedus interview about needing Kleenex is BS. I was rereading that article and someone pointed out that he had said it before and it was false. Like others have pointed out, he is the main character for female viewers and the biggest cast member on social media, so, he can put out some some info for people, and just false leads.

This post was edited on 3/25 3:24 PM by fsugrad06
 
LOL @ redshirts. good way to put it.

I also thought/hoped Reedus' comments might be a red herring.

I don't know why Gabriel would be untouchable, unless they need someone to stir up extremem dislike in the audience?
 
Originally posted by Bartdog:
Originally posted by tommynole3476:
The rule that characters on the talking dead usually die isn't absolute. I forget who the 'mystery guest' was a few weeks back was, but they didn't die.

There is no group outside the walls protecting the ASZ. I know you guys don't want spoilers, but the show has stayed fairly close to the comic, only switching some deaths/injuries, and adding Daryl, and the people outside the walls are not protectors of the ASZ.
Daenerys gets her arm bitten off by a dragon before making it back to the Iron Throne.


Dude, WTF?
 
Originally posted by Bartdog:

LOL @ redshirts. good way to put it.

I also thought/hoped Reedus' comments might be a red herring.

I don't know why Gabriel would be untouchable, unless they need someone to stir up extremem dislike in the audience?
I agree, Gabriel should be on the short list of folks expected to perish this week.
 
Originally posted by Bartdog:

LOL @ redshirts. good way to put it.

I also thought/hoped Reedus' comments might be a red herring.

I don't know why Gabriel would be untouchable, unless they need someone to stir up extremem dislike in the audience?
I don't think Gabriel is untouchable, just not likely to be killed. I agree with others on who the truly untouchable characters are, I just don't see any main character death as likely in the finale. We already had Beth, Tyreese, and Noah die this season. I think the scene between Deanna and Gabriel still has some flushing out for the characters. If that can be wrapped up in the finale, I can see it more likely that he is killed.
 
I wish someone would kill Sasha and Gabriel already. Those two are useless.

I like the character Glenn is becoming.

Creepy Crazy Rick is very interesting too.
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Originally posted by skramer100:


Originally posted by Bartdog:

Originally posted by tommynole3476:
The rule that characters on the talking dead usually die isn't absolute. I forget who the 'mystery guest' was a few weeks back was, but they didn't die.

There is no group outside the walls protecting the ASZ. I know you guys don't want spoilers, but the show has stayed fairly close to the comic, only switching some deaths/injuries, and adding Daryl, and the people outside the walls are not protectors of the ASZ.
Daenerys gets her arm bitten off by a dragon before making it back to the Iron Throne.


Dude, WTF?
That's not an actual GOT spoiler. I made it up, just to try to make a point that I could have spoled everything in GOT up through this last season, including Dragons, Ned, Red Wedding, Tyrion's gal pal (have they done the unsullied yet?), etc. And I could have done it before the first episode aired.

But I didin't. So people who have read the Walking Dead comics need to stop all this crap where they feel like we want to know stuff happening before we see it.

/rant
thanks
 
It's hard to say who is truly useless since character development can change everything. In the earlier seasons, Carol could have been considered useless.
 
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