Walking Dead Season 8
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I think, based on all of the foreshadowing seen last night, that Rick's group wins this war. I'm sure, however that it will come at a heavy price. I'm just waiting to see who is killed and who survives. Was anybody else like me, telling Gabriel not to help Gregory, and wondering why he didn't fire his weapon as soon as he heard Neagan's voice?
I also found it interesting that Rick told Maggie that when this was over, he'd be following her.
I also found it interesting that Rick told Maggie that when this was over, he'd be following her.
I read a review today that the episode last was intentionally confusing (with the 3 story arcs). All of them are supposed to come full circle around the mid-season finale. We'll see. After 7 seasons I just feel too vested to give up now.
My biggest complaint was with the way they handled the whole interaction with Negan and Rick's group.
First off, Negan has a ton of Saviors there, where does he just come wandering out unprotected and with no real backup. Is he really that arrogant that he thinks Rick is just a fly?
Secondly, when Negan does come out like that, why not immediately have a sniper set to take him out and then offer the others a chance to surrender.
Finally when they do start shooting, after being the best marksmen ever for the who intro to the show, they can't hit anyone?
First off, Negan has a ton of Saviors there, where does he just come wandering out unprotected and with no real backup. Is he really that arrogant that he thinks Rick is just a fly?
Secondly, when Negan does come out like that, why not immediately have a sniper set to take him out and then offer the others a chance to surrender.
Finally when they do start shooting, after being the best marksmen ever for the who intro to the show, they can't hit anyone?
He's been wanting to not be leader for about 4 seasons since the Prison when they basically had a committee running things and he played farmer.
Ok I said this in the other thread. Yes there has been a million chances to kill Negan. So much so that it is frustrating. But I think they think that is just too easy. Negan deserves something more. They came up with this elaborate plan and it wasn't to kill the leaders at that meeting. But to show that Negan is losing control. That they have all united against them.
What planet is Gregory on to think he had any pull with the Hilltoppers? And Father G was beyond stupid to stop and help that weasel.
I hated all the time jumping. It's annoying.
What planet is Gregory on to think he had any pull with the Hilltoppers? And Father G was beyond stupid to stop and help that weasel.
I hated all the time jumping. It's annoying.
If that's what they're doing it's silly. Just kill the guy already or don't kill him. It's maddeningly stupid writing and I've got better things to do than be jerked around by TWD writers.
I stopped after the first season. Can’t watch a show that never concludes.
Looks like fans are voicing their discontent by not tuning in.
https://www.thewrap.com/walking-dead-season-8-premiere-ratings-down/
https://www.thewrap.com/walking-dead-season-8-premiere-ratings-down/
Exactly. Its almost as stupid as Rick still being alive after he repeats every other episode how he is going to kill negan right to his face. Come on already.
Reminds me of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time saga. The book series was suppose to be a trilogy and $omehow ended up 14 books. By book 6 or 7 it got too bloated, the characters had become caricatures, and the author had no desire to tie up the ever expanding plots with the ever expanding characters. By books 8-11, the entire series was a plodding, confusing mess of unresolved stories...and utterly boring. He died after 11th book and another author had to clean up the mess over three books. But the first 3-5 books were great...
Except that this was always set out to be a comic, while it has an end in site, it never set out to tell a story, it just set out to last as long as it could.
The Wheel of Time started with such great promise and then it completely fell apart. I never even read the final books. I heard the first two by the new author were good, but the final book was terrible, so I left it. I'm concerned the same thing has happened with Martin in his Song of Ice and Fire series. It was supposed to be a trilogy as well and now he's going to die before it's finished. At least HBO has given us some version of his story although it'll never be "His" story any more.
I am in the minority here but I thought the episode was pretty good. After the opener last season they had a lot to live up to and the action in this one was pretty good. Sets the pace for a great season.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
I liked it as well.
The easy lazy writing would be to just shoot him. That is likely what people would do in real life as well, however, this isn't real life, it is a long story that is meant to draw out a show. Now we get a full season of the war with Negan.
Ok, but then they need to stop with all the "I'm gonna kill you" and "Only one person needs to die" stuff.
It's so tired and holds no weight anymore. If you don't want to kill off negan, then don't have him stand on a platform out in the open with a dozen plus weapons facing him. I'm sorry, that's just plain stupid.
Oh I agree the bravado etc doesn't match the action, esp after he was so beat down by Negan, but to actually expect Rick to just shoot Negan as he pops out is setting yourself up to be unhappy. Remember, its a drama!...
Oh I agree the bravado etc doesn't match the action, esp after he was so beat down by Negan, but to actually expect Rick to just shoot Negan as he pops out is setting yourself up to be unhappy. Remember, its a drama!...
I don't think the complaint is he didn't shoot Negan, it's the story, we get it. The complaint is don't write it to have him so easily accessible for a basic kill shot from a blind person. Put them behind a wall talking through a window or crack or something and this entire critique goes away. You really can't have the repeated statements by Rick that he just needs to kill him, then have a drawn out conversation with him there for the taking. And to top it off they show Rick getting frustrated that he can't get a clear shot because Negan now has cover 5 MINUTES LATER.
Already losing viewers, will be a few more lost if they keep pulling crap like that.
exactly. I don't want them to just kill Negan, I want it to be a drawn out war. But that's right, don't just have him stroll out onto a platform after that group has already one shot sniped a ton of his generals and then have them all start shooting and suddenly turn into storm trooper accuracy. Either these guys and gals are a deadly shot or they're not.
I'd much prefer for Negan to just peek out a window and taunt Rick about how he must think he's an idiot, like he's just going to come strolling out there while they're all waving a bunch of guns around. It would make more sense then for the rest of his compound to suddenly show up on the roof and start shooting, Rick drives his explosive camper in and blows half of them off the roof, deposits the zombies and they all take off.
This way just seemed like lazy writing.
See I think that would have been much more realistic and amusing. It would have resolved a lot of the fan complaints about the scene and would be more realistic. Heck, him hiding and teasing Rick would have been great "Rick, please stop shooting my windows, it gets drafty in here, we are gonna have to burn more Drs to keep it warm."
