Anytime you're feeling froggy, I'm ready.Is that a challenge because I could write a few posts that would get this place rocking. I just don't want to destroy my perfect record of never being banned.
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If I could get that hammer it would be worth it. That thing is cool.Anytime you're feeling froggy, I'm ready.
I'm neutral on this and my post was intended to be relevant to both sides. Sorry if I missed the mark.
I'm out!
One thing I'll say about Ranger is that while he's never, ever wrong (except all the time) he is occasionally amenable to changing his opinion when provided with new information. He's also brutally honest about his opinions, dude doesn't seem to hide much, which is what makes him so polarizing / amusing / scary.
In an era where people will go to their grave claiming it's pitch black at noon if that's what their favorite so-and-so tells them, I'll commend Ranger on listening, once in a while.
My challenge to him would be to proactively seeking out this new information rather than it being spoon fed via LR.
he is occasionally amenable to changing his opinion when provided with new information. He's also brutally honest about his opinions, dude doesn't seem to hide much, which is what makes him so polarizing / amusing / scary.In an era where people will go to their grave claiming it's pitch black at noon if that's what their favorite so-and-so tells them, I'll commend Ranger on listening, once in a while.
My challenge to him would be to proactively seeking out this new information rather than it being spoon fed via LR.
One thing I'll say about Ranger is that while he's never, ever wrong (except all the time)
In an era where people will go to their grave claiming it's pitch black at noon if that's what their favorite so-and-so tells them, I'll commend Ranger on listening, once in a while.
My challenge to him would be to proactively seeking out this new information rather than it being spoon fed via LR.
Holy crap 2 compliments in 1 day and a trip to Italy I need to go buy a lotto ticket. I hope I will always be able to re-evaluate; but I will always hold my core values. I think many including you view my being a very different person with an entirely different experiences as wrong. That is fine and what makes the world a great place. So enough of that let's go back to being mortal enemies; I have a reputation to uphold; word gets out I am a nice guy and I am done.
By the way thank you.
You know my rule: if you don't have anything mean to say, don't say anything at all.
Is that a challenge because I could write a few posts that would get this place rocking. I just don't want to destroy my perfect record of never being banned.
I think one of the reasons LeBron gets a lot of flak is that he just doesn't have a very likable personality. I think he's probably a pretty good dude, but he's one of those famous people that is clearly obsessed with his image and I think that makes him come across as inauthentic and phony to a lot of people.
So...OP was upset about his misinterpretation of stories about the school and now he's been properly informed? All this could have been avoided had OP read any of the multiple storied?
Lebron is still a stud.
Lebron is still a stud.
Knew I could count on you and that is not exactly what happened. I listened to sports center the line was Lebron funds school. Again if someone is reported (even through no fault of their own) to fund something then the presentation is that person funded the school in total. Not any different if someone reports/says X is paying for a new car for Y. The reality is Lebron is giving roughly 2 million to help fund a school; amazing and awesome. However the school district is coming up with 50%-75% depending on which article you read.
Here are the first two paragraphs from an ESPN article.
AKRON, Ohio -- LeBron James drove down the streets he grew up on Monday afternoon and parked his vehicle outside the I Promise School that he helped build before roaming the halls for the first time.
The Akron native's LeBron James Family Foundation partnered with the Akron Public Schools system to create the learning center, which opened its doors for the first time to 240 third- and fourth-grade students who enrolled in the full-immersion program to benefit at-risk youth.
AKRON, Ohio -- LeBron James drove down the streets he grew up on Monday afternoon and parked his vehicle outside the I Promise School that he helped build before roaming the halls for the first time.
The Akron native's LeBron James Family Foundation partnered with the Akron Public Schools system to create the learning center, which opened its doors for the first time to 240 third- and fourth-grade students who enrolled in the full-immersion program to benefit at-risk youth.
Just donated $5 to Children's Miracle Network and received 2 root beer floats with rum (I'm in NOLA)
Fijimn = Lebron
Fijimn = Lebron
A car is much different from a multimillion dollar infrastructure project and ongoing staffing.
It would be silly to think Lebron was paying for a public school in its entirety, only partly because the word "public" in that sentence makes it clear he's not its sole source of funding.
Perhaps the espn anchors didn't detail the funding profile because a) when they say it's a public school, it's implied and b) it's sportscenter let's set our bar for nuanced education-centric news higher than a show that also features the likes of paul finebaum and mark schabagh, two guys who can barely discuss CFB with passable knowledge.
This happens every year. People are so ready for football season to start, they dig for things to discuss. No matter how petty. Sides are drawn and it goes from there.
When you’re worth around a half billion dollars that’s about the same as you and I donating a few hundred bucks.
But....that’s better than nothing! Great for LeBron, while I obviously don’t agree with his politics, I respect anybody that donates to causes like this.
He's pledging 4/10's of a percent of his (current) net worth every year for this one charity.....that's not insignificant, IMO. If you look at it as a percentage of his annual income, it's probably north of 2%. Once again, not insignificant. Remember, this is an perpetual contribution.
For a person worth $250K making $45-50K/year (far below an average locker-roomer) that's an annual commitment of a thousand bucks. Once again, not insignificant.
Crazy how this entire conversation shifted to whether LeBron is giving enough. I know we can’t do it here but the real issue is how LeBron got brought up in the first place.
Let's also remember that the $2m annually is only part of his total charitable giving and does not include college tuition he's pledged to pay for previous, current, and future Akron kids, contributions to Univ of Akron, St Vincents St Marys, and any other philanthropy he's involved in.
My $5 March of Dimes donation seems pretty small relative to my net worth when you ignore all the other things I've donated to.. nah mean?
So a thousand bucks is significant to someone making 50K a year? I was told it was crumbs.
You should really give back more to the community. As much time as you spend around here I figure you could be doing something else to give back....nah mean?
Also, the Labron James Foundation is providing that $2m, not out of his personal wallet, although he is a big contributor to the foundation, he gets charitable contributions from people and business all over. They have a board of directors, and executives running the charity, they have input on how those dollars are spent, and where they go.
When you get to a certain level of wealth, charity becomes nearly a necessary part of you business.
He's the face of it, but there is a big machine behind him, and it's obviously politically tied to Cleveland and Ohio.
When you get to a certain level of wealth, charity becomes nearly a necessary part of you business.
He's the face of it, but there is a big machine behind him, and it's obviously politically tied to Cleveland and Ohio.
This is a case of selective hearing of news reports, just not liking LeBron in general and not like him because of the things he’s been saying about our current President. I for one am no LeBron fan on the basketball court, however he is a upstanding citizen off the court. He is the model of what an athlete should be in their personal life, as far as we know. The man is contributing to making children’s lives better through education. That’s a good thing. Seeing people nitpicking at it and throwing their hands up to the millions he’s given and has pledged is laughable.
My wife has am elementary education degree. I have supported her very well over the last almost 22 years, given her 2 awesome kids and if she doesn't go to Italy with me I am getting her a new vacuum for our anniversary. I should at least get a mention on Lifetime Channel or something
Man I thought he did something cool until I read this thread. Turns out that he contributed crumbs for a tax break. That must explain why these schools are so common across the country.
Schools aren't really that important - they have no bearing on our future.
Better served reducing taxes and letting the money flow down the river so undereducated Average Joes can fight over it, they'll be grateful for the privilege of doing so.
That's how we'll compete with an increasingly connected and sophisticated world.
Initially it is a school for 2 grades so the cost will quadruple or possibly more by the time it has all 8 grades. It's a great gesture/donation by LBJ but he is passing the buck(50-75%) to the taxpayers. Did the taxpayers get to vote on this?
I guess we just look at life differently.
What you did is wonderful, and I thank you for it. If I were you I’d choose to be happy that I could afford to buy school supplies for kids whose families can’t afford them, rather than feeling put out and looking for recognition over it.
C'mon now we just finished our hug and now this. If the school does what it says it can do and changes the lives of children then awesome. I know everyone thinks our school/education system needs a major overhaul. I wish we could have a discussion on it or more importantly I wish our elected officials could do that but there are to many folks that have their own interests.
Maybe what Lebron sis is the answer we could name all our schools after athletes/celebrities and in today's world the kids would want to actually learn. Even more importantly the parents might actually get involved.
I agree the school system needs a major overhaul, it's been used as a proxy or pawn by people who have one agenda or another.
Politicians (local, state, and federal) have no problem screwing with schools, defunding them, treating teachers poorly or worse yet casting aspersions upon them, using curriculum as a way to manipulate voters or drive their personal agenda, games played using state exams, etc...
For some reason as a nation we've forgotten about the concept of investing in our future, be it intellectual or infrastructure. The decades long failures of our school system are the root of a lot of problems in the nation and they're only going to grow in the future.
We can't have a nation where one group of folks get a great education and the rest of the population gets a mediocre to non-existent education. It will present the most existential threat to the continued prosperity, if not existence, of the nation.
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people." - Thomas Jefferson .... we're tiptoeing the line already.
The difference between you and me is that I can usually tell when someone is joking.
On the other hand, I'm sure you're a ton of fun at parties.
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The ol Jab someone and then claim it’s a joke routine, eh? Seems to be a lot of that going around these last couple years. Of course you were “joking”. The “joke” is you are putting the man down. You just posted about how Lebrons foundation are the ones who are donating the 2M, not him, and how it’s a big machine tied politically to the area. So you clearly have an issue with it.
Point out the jab. I have no issue at all. But to be so naive to think that Lebron woke up one day and said "I'm going to go start a charter school" is laughable. I will say that he probably was heavily involved in the organization of his foundation and the appointments to its board and executives, and the general direction of the philanthropic endeavors ie "I'd like this foundation to help at risk youth" I'll go that far, the rest is the machine, he's just the face. It's just usually how these things work.
I know a very wealthy philanthropic family who's wealth dwarfs Lebron's that set up schools in Peoria, Il. PALs ( https://www.palschools.com/about-pals ). I watched all of this happen up close as it happened, as I was dating one of their daughters who was on the board. (BTW they fully fund their schools, or at least did the years I had visibility to them)
I don't think anything I wrote up there was derogatory, just shining a little light on how stuff works. Ya know, the more you know, and all that.
And the second post wanting recognition for a hundred dollar donation is clearly a joke, but for all the mouth breathers out there I'll be more clear next time.
(that mouth breathers part is a jab, not a joke)
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Ah, good idea... pointing out the obvious to the mouth breathers. The more you know and stuff... In case you were wondering, Lebron probably didn't actually select the curriculum or hire any of the teachers himself personally. I dated a girl once who was a teacher, so I know they would not let a professional athlete handle those matters. They would leave it up to people in the industry.
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