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When Is Panama City Going To Wise Up

This thread evolved from PCB vs. FTL to PCB vs. Destin...it almost shifted to PCB vs. JaxB but didn't quite get there.
 
Originally posted by I.AM.A.SEMINOLE:
I live on PCB, I work in Panama City. I spend my Money between Highway 79 and San Destin. I've spent basically my entire life roaming highway 98 from Ft Walton to Appalachicola. I've eaten, partied, slept, all the yadda yadda in just about every place possible in between the two. Heck I was a spring breaker just a short 6 years ago.

It works like this the people who own highly successful business / influential people such as musicans, actors, professional athletes, politicians. Vacation on 30a where they usually own the house or rent one for 15k a week. The people in uppermangement for those people, essentially those who run said business vacation in Destin (I will say generally out of the preconceived notion that it's better than PCB, they both have the same crap outside of a bass pro shop and a Mcguires but PCB has caught up the difference is the cost of goods).

The people who work for those two groups vacation on Panama City Beach.

Panama City Beach has worked very hard to change it's image. It's working. What drives me crazy is Im gonna raise my children here one day, I plan on being a business owner here as well.

So who's to blame for the craziest during the month of March? Who's to blame for the PCB and PC woahs?

The Locals.

Stop selling crap beers and whiskey for $1.50. Stop Selling frozen seafood crap platters for $9.99. Stop selling microwave "baked oysters" and pawing them off on idiots with a t-shirt. Please just quit with the $5 bucket of frozen sugar with %30 alcohol. Stop renting the condo you lost your ass on in 05 for $125 a night. Stop selling yourself short PCB. Cheap attracts cheap and with cheap comes trash.

Stop selling crap and take some dadgum pride in yourself. For goodness sakes you call yourself "The worlds most beautiful beaches" Thats what it says at your brand new airport. It says it on the welcome center sign next to highway 79. You advertise it. I don't think $9.99 seafood platters and $2 shots of crap flavored vodka of the week belong on the "worlds" most beautiful anything.

What do you expect to happen? If you show yourself to be "college town" USA during March or "lower class" it will not matter what you advertise. Ever heard that saying...actions speak louder than words?

If you want to be like your "Big Brother" Destin start acting like it...grow up.

This is what I said earlier, the business owners have to stop catering if they truly want it to go away.

I do believe however that the no booze on the beach mandate will help run some of them off. It's not going to be fun settings on the beach hiding your drink. I would go some where else if it were me at that point.

And I had a conversation with a friend who owns a fairly prominent cabinet shop in PC last night. He said that he is busy from April until mid May with repairing door jams and counters etc from the spring breakers. I found the trickle down effect for the local economy interesting. It's not just the bars and hotels who profit from spring breakers...it goes much further than that.
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Could y'all imagine any other state having this conversation? I'm actually sitting by the pool in Pensacola Besch right now and having a right fun time with my kids here. Highly underrated as a family spot. It kinda reminds me of PCB in the 80's. Even taught my son how to properly apply mr Zogs to his new skim board before teaching him how to properly face plant into a wave. Pretty much every part of Florida blows the rest of the country away as long as you know how to do it right or at least read one of Tribe's posts before going.

Except Daytona that is. Y'all can keep that beach and I'll hang at Tomoka state park nearby.
 
A little bit of this is the self righteousness of those complaining right now. Dont get me wrong, a lot of what is going on is crazy and needs to be under control, but the same people that want spring break to "go away" would be the ones yelling if those same ordinances of no alcohol on the beach were applied to Shell Island. And a month or two from now everyone will be saying how great it is to see all the revenues generated from spring break.

Bay County has 27 miles of beaches. The craziness occurs on maybe a 2 mile stretch.
 
PCB is very diverse. It's a long beach and the attitude changes from place to place. East Thomas Drive to West Thomas Drive totally different. Long Beach. Pier Park area, Laguna Beach, Inlet Beach. Breakfast Point, Middle Beach There's something for everybody. Who wants to be like Destin? We have Pier Park, all chain establishments.
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James I've got a beach question for you.

Is it just me, or is the water quality better on PCB than Destin? The water always seems cleaner the at PC than Sandestin Hilton area where I go for an annual meeting
 
Originally posted by wbnolefan:
James I've got a beach question for you.

Is it just me, or is the water quality better on PCB than Destin? The water always seems cleaner the at PC than Sandestin Hilton area where I go for an annual meeting
It's all about the recent winds, the current tide and how close you are to an inlet, bay or river mouth. Every beach in Florida has the potential to be crystal clear or cloudy and some can be very nasty at times.
 
Originally posted by wbnolefan:
James I've got a beach question for you.

Is it just me, or is the water quality better on PCB than Destin? The water always seems cleaner the at PC than Sandestin Hilton area where I go for an annual meeting
It's all about the currents...could be great in PCB one day, and seaweed in Destin, then vice versa.

I was told by a captain here that there is a massive type of current that pushes out right in our area. He said it has to do with the Mississippi dumping in, something like that.

But if look on a map, you'll notice that from St Joe through Destin the land faces South/West (why we have great sunsets even though we are north Florida looking south). He said the currents formed our coast line and this is what helps keep our waters so pristine.

I'm not an oceanoligist...just what I was told by an old boat captain. It made sense to me at the time.
 
Originally posted by KitingHigh:

Originally posted by wbnolefan:
James I've got a beach question for you.

Is it just me, or is the water quality better on PCB than Destin? The water always seems cleaner the at PC than Sandestin Hilton area where I go for an annual meeting
It's all about the recent winds, the current tide and how close you are to an inlet, bay or river mouth. Every beach in Florida has the potential to be crystal clear or cloudy and some can be very nasty at times.
This is true. I've seen the seaweed 3 feet thick by my house and none at St. Andrews state park 20 miles from here.
 
If they would just do away with drinking on the beach it would be a step in the right direction...
 
Originally posted by cmanole:
If they would just do away with drinking on the beach it would be a step in the right direction...
I didn't bite...just sayin ;)
 
Originally posted by DanC78:

Originally posted by cmanole:
If they would just do away with drinking on the beach it would be a step in the right direction...
I didn't bite...just sayin ;)
Lol...
 
And then there is another way to look at it. A half million people are showing up to party and people are concerned with 300 arrests.

Tallahassee has just under 200k people living here and has about 30 arrests per day. Roughly 600 arrests over the same 3 week period with approx a third of the people.
 
Originally posted by cmanole:
Originally posted by DanC78:
Originally posted by NoleNe...odNews:

Saying PCB is nicer than Destin is as dumb as saying South Central is nicer than Beverly Hills

PCB is strictly for people who don't have enough money to rent/vacation/ or live in Destin..Sandestin or South Walton

That's a ridiculously ignorant statement. PCB is much nicer, Destin is out dated and to cluttered. Anyone who remotely knows the area can tell you this.

Destin < PCB < 30A
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30A > Anna Maria > Longboat > Destin > Siesta Key > Gulf Shores > Sanibel > Daytona > PCB
Where does P'Cola rank on there? :p
 
Originally posted by fsu1jreed:

Originally posted by cmanole:
Originally posted by DanC78:
Originally posted by NoleNe...odNews:

Saying PCB is nicer than Destin is as dumb as saying South Central is nicer than Beverly Hills

PCB is strictly for people who don't have enough money to rent/vacation/ or live in Destin..Sandestin or South Walton

That's a ridiculously ignorant statement. PCB is much nicer, Destin is out dated and to cluttered. Anyone who remotely knows the area can tell you this.

Destin < PCB < 30A
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30A > Anna Maria > Longboat > Destin > Siesta Key > Gulf Shores > Sanibel > Daytona > PCB
Where does P'Cola rank on there? :p
Oh yeah, my home town lol. I'd put it between AMI and Longboat just because of the Shaker...
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Originally posted by LT4PLY:
And then there is another way to look at it. A half million people are showing up to party and people are concerned with 300 arrests.

Tallahassee has just under 200k people living here and has about 30 arrests per day. Roughly 600 arrests over the same 3 week period with approx a third of the people.
Maybe the arrest numbers are low because the police are being lenient and not strictly enforcing the laws. If the police were enforcing laws like they do in Tally on a day to day basis, I am sure there would be a lot more arrests during Spring Break...anywhere, not just in PCB.
 
Originally posted by DanC78:

I was told by a captain here that there is a massive type of current that pushes out right in our area. He said it has to do with the Mississippi dumping in, something like that.
It couldn't be the Mississippi, the long-shore current runs East to West (due to the Coriolis effect) so everything exiting the Mississippi (water et al.) is automatically taken to Texas/Mexico (which is why their beaches aren't as white as the Emerald coast). All of the sand on the awesome North-Florida beaches come from the Appalachian mountains, couriered there by the ACF (Apalachicola, Chattahoochee, & Flint) River basin.
 
Originally posted by cmanole:
Originally posted by fsu1jreed:

Originally posted by cmanole:
30A > Anna Maria > Longboat > Destin > Siesta Key > Gulf Shores > Sanibel > Daytona > PCB
Where does P'Cola rank on there? :p
Oh yeah, my home town lol. I'd put it between AMI and Longboat just because of the Shaker...
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I assume you're talking about the Sandshaker Lounge? My wife and I went there our last two trips to Pensacola. I can say that I'm not a big fan of the "official" drink of Pensacola the Bushwhacker as it's too sweet and heavy in the fats even compared to NOLA low rent French Quarter daiquiris like handgrenades, hurricanes, jesters, etc... But it's a nice laid back bar and we found other things to enjoy.
 
Originally posted by fsu1jreed
It couldn't be the Mississippi, the long-shore current runs East to West (due to the Coriolis effect) so everything exiting the Mississippi (water et al.) is automatically taken to Texas/Mexico (which is why their beaches aren't as white as the Emerald coast). All of the sand on the awesome North-Florida beaches come from the Appalachian mountains, couriered there by the ACF (Apalachicola, Chattahoochee, & Flint) River basin.
You can learn something everyday here. I thought it came from parrotfish poop like most White sand beaches in the Caribbean (no joke, one parrotfish can produce up to 200 lbs of sand every year by eating the deposited limestone created by the corals it eats (and there are tons of corals north of the keys as they're nonphotosynthetic deeper water (usually over 50 ft) corals not the photosynthetic types found near the surface in the keys and carribean). Multiply 200 lbs times the tens or even hundreds of thousands of parrotfish times many decades and viola! White crushed limestone beaches.

BUT that's not what happened in the panhandle. Most of the White sand is finely crushed clear Quartz crystals that just look white.

The more you know.

insert rainbow
 
Originally posted by FSUTribe76:

Originally posted by fsu1jreed
It couldn't be the Mississippi, the long-shore current runs East to West (due to the Coriolis effect) so everything exiting the Mississippi (water et al.) is automatically taken to Texas/Mexico (which is why their beaches aren't as white as the Emerald coast). All of the sand on the awesome North-Florida beaches come from the Appalachian mountains, couriered there by the ACF (Apalachicola, Chattahoochee, & Flint) River basin.
You can learn something everyday here. I thought it came from parrotfish poop like most White sand beaches in the Caribbean (no joke, one parrotfish can produce up to 200 lbs of sand every year by eating the deposited limestone created by the corals it eats (and there are tons of corals north of the keys as they're nonphotosynthetic deeper water (usually over 50 ft) corals not the photosynthetic types found near the surface in the keys and carribean). Multiply 200 lbs times the tens or even hundreds of thousands of parrotfish times many decades and viola! White crushed limestone beaches.

BUT that's not what happened in the panhandle. Most of the White sand is finely crushed clear Quartz crystals that just look white.

The more you know.

insert rainbow
I have always been fascinated by this fact, and that the Appalachians are believed to have once looked like the Rockies. Our time on Earth is so infinitesimal.
 
Originally posted by Formerly Rockymtnole:

I have always been fascinated by this fact, and that the Appalachians are believed to have once looked like the Rockies. Our time on Earth is so infinitesimal.
Yep, the oldest mountain range on the planet............Pangaea was created as the Appalachians (~480 million years bp) reached skyward and they once spread all way across (or pretty close).

Geology is so cool.
 
Originally posted by fsu1jreed:

Originally posted by FSUTribe76:

insert rainbow
Well, memorial day is coming up............you coming down for a visit?
I'm actually trying to talk my wife into going to the Mullet Toss in a few weeks. But I'll definitely be back soon, we absolutely loved our camping trip to the Ft Pickens campsite and as we picked up a federal pass due to our upcoming trip to the Big Five utah parks it would cost us basically nothing but gas and a couple of bucks. I WAS relatively ambivalent to Pensacola Beach as I'd always stayed on the public beaches and while excellent they're nothing better or worse than all of the other amazing beaches in the panhandle. But once we went out to the Federal areas especially the spots away from the parking areas it was magic. So now that's my new love.
 
Originally posted by FSUTribe76:

Originally posted by fsu1jreed:

Originally posted by FSUTribe76:

insert rainbow
Well, memorial day is coming up............you coming down for a visit?
I'm actually trying to talk my wife into going to the Mullet Toss in a few weeks. But I'll definitely be back soon, we absolutely loved our camping trip to the Ft Pickens campsite and as we picked up a federal pass due to our upcoming trip to the Big Five utah parks it would cost us basically nothing but gas and a couple of bucks. I WAS relatively ambivalent to Pensacola Beach as I'd always stayed on the public beaches and while excellent they're nothing better or worse than all of the other amazing beaches in the panhandle. But once we went out to the Federal areas especially the spots away from the parking areas it was magic. So now that's my new love.
It was kind of joke that probably went over your head.........Memorial day weekend is big with those that love rainbows, and that's all you will see that whole weekend. Well that and some smoking hot lesbians.........like really hot.

Yes, I love the Ft. Pickens area (I worked for Gulf Islands for ~4 years and my office was at the Coast Guard station (where you reserve & pay for your camping spot) and that job was awesome. Wish I could be working out there now.
 
Originally posted by FSUTribe76:

Originally posted by fsu1jreed
It couldn't be the Mississippi, the long-shore current runs East to West (due to the Coriolis effect) so everything exiting the Mississippi (water et al.) is automatically taken to Texas/Mexico (which is why their beaches aren't as white as the Emerald coast). All of the sand on the awesome North-Florida beaches come from the Appalachian mountains, couriered there by the ACF (Apalachicola, Chattahoochee, & Flint) River basin.
You can learn something everyday here. I thought it came from parrotfish poop like most White sand beaches in the Caribbean (no joke, one parrotfish can produce up to 200 lbs of sand every year by eating the deposited limestone created by the corals it eats (and there are tons of corals north of the keys as they're nonphotosynthetic deeper water (usually over 50 ft) corals not the photosynthetic types found near the surface in the keys and carribean). Multiply 200 lbs times the tens or even hundreds of thousands of parrotfish times many decades and viola! White crushed limestone beaches.

BUT that's not what happened in the panhandle. Most of the White sand is finely crushed clear Quartz crystals that just look white.

The more you know.

insert rainbow
I never knew this either, the ACF thing not the parrotfish poop thing - I did know that. Very interesting indeed...
 
Originally posted by DefNotPanHandler2007:
The key to a good Bushwhacker is ordering the extra shot.
A 151 floater if you will...
 
Originally posted by cmanole:
Originally posted by DefNotPanHandler2007:
The key to a good Bushwhacker is ordering the extra shot.
A 151 floater if you will...
Maybe...they (I've only had them at Florabama and Sandshaker but those are allegedly two of the best) just made me want a White Russian, Caucasian or preferably a Black Russian. It's no "Call a Cab".
 
But it's Friday and I don't have to go to Orlando to see All-American Rejects for "free" at Uni until tomorrow afternoon, so I think I will make a Black Russian now. But Tia Maria, Kahlua or go creative and use some or all of Sabra? Then St Augustine Cane vodka, Russian Platinum Standard, Ultimat, Crystal Head or Zyr?

It's a tough tough life I lead.
 
Yes, they are very sweet and is why you need the 151 floater. It cuts the sweetness and boosts the octane so you only need one or two...
 
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