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I just acidentally drove to the National Security Agency and almost got pummeled by the police!

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I was dropping off a gentleman from my work near Fort Meade and was taking Waze home. I went a different route because I wanted to stop at KFC and pork down some chicken.

There was a circle with 4 exits and I took the wrong exit and ended up at the entrance to the National Security Agency. I told the police officer that I took a wrong turn and he was bitter and told me to pull up front at his command and then four cops surrounded my car.

They interrogated me for 10 minutes about where I was going. They asked to see my cell phone and Waze. I showed them.

The first cop was pretty smug when I asked him if a lot of people take that wrong turn. The second cop said it happens all the time. They finally let me go without incident after interrogating me and doing a background check.

Whew.

Have you ever taken a wrong turn into a disaster area?

What happened?
 
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I was dropping off a gentleman from my work near Fort Meade and was taking Waze home. I went a different route because I wanted to stop at KFC and pork down some chicken.

There was a circle with 4 exits and I took the wrong exit and ended up at the entrance to the National Security Agency. I told the police officer that I took a wrong turn and he was bitter and told me to pull up front at his command and then four cops surrounded my car.

They interrogated me for 10 minutes about where I was going. They asked to see my cell phone and Waze. I showed them.

The first cop was pretty smug when I asked him if a lot of people take that wrong turn. The second cop said it happens all the time. They finally let me go without incident after interrogating me and doing a background check.

Whew.

Have you ever taken a wrong turn into a disaster area?

What happened?

If you take the wrong road out of Williamsburg VA which I did several times before the aid of driving apps, you’ll find several roads with signs labelled “If the car breaks down do not get out of car or you will be shot). Several of the spy agencies have/had training facilities nearby. I don’t know if that’s still true despite going back several times over the decades as I don’t recall seeing those signs in the past ten years or so.
 
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The courses have leaned to the exotic:

Code work, lock picking (called "Picks and Locks"), opening packages without detection ("Flaps and Seals"), how to evade hostile pursuers ("Defensive Driving") and arranging pick-up of clandestine material ("Drops").

For nearly 25 years, neophyte spies have left Washington to attend what some call Spy U., a training base here operated by the Central Intelligence Agency to prepare its agents for real-life cloak-and-dagger work overseas.

The heavily-forested, 10,000-acre site is secretive, but hardly remote. Known as Camp Peary to outsiders and "The Farm" to CIA insiders, the base is a $37 million complex nestled in deer-filled woods and tidal recesses within minutes of two of Virginia's biggest tourist attractions -- Colonial Williamsburg and Busch Gardens.

But if few of the area's, one million annual visitors know Camp Peary exists, even fewer local residents -- used to restricted areas at the dozen-odd military bases in Tidewater -- show much curiosity about its role.

The CIA prefers it that way.

"You can't conduct that kind of training in the middle of G.W.," says William Colby, the former CIA director who visited the facility and lectured there during his years as the agency's chief.

Chain-link fence and stern-gazed military sentries keep away unwelcome outsiders, although local repairmen occassionally are premitted on the base to perform maintenance work. When a local softball team sponsored by Lee Williams Exxon in Williamsburg played Camp Peary recently, the squad was met at the gate and accompained to a playing field. The visitors won both games of a doubleheader, then were promptly escorted back off the base.

Like a longtime neighbor who keeps to himself, Camp Peary has gone about its quiet business since the days when white-haired, pipe-smoking Allen Dulles, then the CIA's director, established it to provide paramilitary training agency operatives.

Before that, it was a prisoner-of-war amp for captured German soldiers, and before that a training base for Naval construction battalions (the Seabees). Ellis Bingley remembers when it was just a sleepy little Tidewater community known as Magruder.

Bingley lived in a house there from 1921 to 1943. In 1976, he was permitted to visit his old house under military escort, but was not allowed to enter.

"It's a big secret. Hasn't much leaked out about it. News is right scarce," say Bingley.

J. Patrick McGarvey, in a 1972 book called "The CIA: The Myth and the Madness," described an ornate mock border scene on The Farm, "replete with high barbed wire fences, plowed strips, watchtowers, roving patrols and searchlights." The recruits' mission was "to case the place" undetected.

Aerial photographs, taken by local authorities for tax purposes and a available to the public, show widely scattered clusters of barracks and guest houses, an enormous warehouse, a gymnasium, target ranges and a long, private air strip with a huge "R" for "Restricted" painted on it.

But since the mid-1970s, paramilitary activities at the Farm have been on the decline. Today the basic training courses continue, but there are also top-secret conferences and "think tank" sessions there.

There are occasional signs of humor. A movie shown recently at the base theater was "The In-Laws," a spoof about a CIA agent's adventures in a fictitious Latin American country. One alumnus of the Farm, who asked not to be named, talked of encountering new recruits wearing trench coats in the middle of summer because they thought it would fit the CIA image.

Whatever the base's business, many civilians in the Newport News-Williamsburg area, which is thickly populated by retired military officers, refuse even to acknowledge that Camp Peary is run by the CIA.

"If it is, it is," says Williamsburg city manager Frank Force. "We try to be good neighbors. We're quite patriotic here."

Ostensibly, Camp Peary is a Defense Department -- not CIA -- installation known as the Armed Forces Experimental Training Activity. It is carried on the Navys inventory of bases, but the Navy refers calls to the Defense Department. Defense says only that it is "top secret." c

For the insatiably curious, Camp Peary has a public affairs officer, John Turnicky, to handle outsiders' inquiries. Contacted recently, Turnicky said there was nothing he could reveal.

"My job's very enjoyable. It's very simple. Goodby," he said politely, hanging up the phone.
 
If you take the wrong road out of Williamsburg VA which I did several times before the aid of driving apps, you’ll find several roads with signs labelled “If the cr breaks down do not get out of car or you will be shot). Several of the spy agencies have/had training facilities nearby. I don’t know if that’s still true despite going back several tones over the decades as I don’t recall seeing those signs in the past ten years or so.


I had a very strong feeling that if I wasn't super nice and accommodating with the police, I would have been in deep trouble.

They probably would have detained me and interrogated me inside.

Or they would have just shot me.
 
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I was driving out to a field site in the Mojave desert one night along some narrow dirt tracks and apparently missed my turn. I ended up at a fence line and a nondescript gate. Two surprised young marines stepped out of the dark holding rifles and asked me what I was doing. I told them that I missed my turn - they agreed and I carefully backed up and drove off back into the night.
 
Last time I was in Monaco, my best friend got drunk and wouldn't let me lead him home. He actually, despite my plea, tried to go knock on Prince Albert's door to ask for directions around 4 AM. I thought for sure he, or both of us were going to jail, or under the jail. However the Palace Guard came out and just directed us back the way we had come without incident.
 
After 9/11, I took turn off at a road that goes around the Pentagon. I had been taking the road for years and did not realize it had been blocked off. All of a sudden, a big humvee came roaring towards me. They were relatively nice about it, but made me turn around.
 
I tried to take an alternate route to Shenandoah National Park and GPS took me to a dead end road lined with tall fences topped with barbed wire about 20 minutes from here. I found out this was the entrance to Mt. Weather which was/is the place where the president goes when the bombs hit. It used to be super top secret but now I guess more people (not me at the time, obviously) know about it. I wasn't approached or stopped before I turned around and left, but there were armed soldiers out into the open.
 
I filled up a rental car once at a gas station next to the Memphis airport on one of my first solo business trips. Definitely not an inviting experience for a white boy in business attire.

The people at Central BBQ were nice though.
 
About 15 years ago in Honolulu, looking for a place to park to go to Pearl Harbor Memorial. Took wrong turn and got to a VERY secure gate on Hickam AFB. I was detained for several minutes and asked a bunch of questions then they let me go.
 
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Last time I was in Monaco, my best friend got drunk and wouldn't let me lead him home. He actually, despite my plea, tried to go knock on Prince Albert's door to ask for directions around 4 AM. I thought for sure he, or both of us were going to jail, or under the jail. However the Palace Guard came out and just directed us back the way we had come without incident.
Other countries certainly take a more respectful and helpful approach to policing and security.
For some reason we conflate being rude/intimidating with being effective, when in reality such behavior is likely compensating for other deficiencies.
 
I have done that at likely the exact same gate you did. They are always cool with me, but I have a military ID and was going there for meetings, just wrong gate. They usually laugh because almost every map program takes people to this gate/road. There is usually a cop on the road just before you get to a sign that basically says you don't belong here. Have even pulled up next to the cop and basically said hey man I am not some crazy here is where I am trying to go. Same reaction from him; he also said that map programs take people this route when they are going to Ft. Meade proper and once you take the exit there is no other place to go.
I guess it is kind of sad I have done this so many times; often multiple times in the same day. Darn technology.
 
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I have done that at likely the exact same gate you did. They are always cool with me, but I have a military ID and was going there for meetings, just wrong gate. They usually laugh because almost every map program takes people to this gate/road. There is usually a cop on the road just before you get to a sign that basically says you don't belong here. Have even pulled up next to the cop and basically said hey man I am not some crazy here is where I am trying to go. Same reaction from him; he also said that map programs take people this route when they are going to Ft. Meade proper and once you take the exit there is no other place to go.
I guess it is kind of sad I have done this so many times; often multiple times in the same day. Darn technology.

My cousin knows someone that works near Fort Meade and said people get lost around there all the time. The roads are kind of confusing.
 
Not a wrong turn, but I accidentally took a weapon with me to the Air Force Academy. I guess I was thinking of it more as a campus visit than somewhere that was actually military (didn't help that Nancy Devos - Secretary of Education was there that day and had recently received some threats)
I was headed to south Colorado to hunt and my aunt had picked me up at the Colorado Springs airport for a day of sightseeing. When we got to the gate they said "do you have any weapons in the vehicle"
Well, um, yes, actually I do....the guards hand immediately went to the gun on her hip.
I told them it was just a bow and they said it was ok as long as there weren't any arrows in the case with it. Well, of course I had arrows with Rage hypodermic broadheads in there, so after much discussion and a stern warning they decided to let me through. I'm guessing they had a predator drone hovering over me for the duration of my visit.
 
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After the ‘93 Orange Bowl we took the wrong exit and ended up in Liberty City.
We actually stopped and gassed up. Everyone was super friendly. Lots of waves and shouted greetings.
Good times.

While taking a summer semester at FAU in 1986, my roommate and I drove to Miami to visit friends of his. We took a wrong exit and a friendly 30-ish guy told us how to get back on the highway. Roommate's friend told us we had been in Liberty City. I had never heard of it. The Liberty City guy probably got a chuckle out of two 19-year olds in a car with MD plates getting lost there.
 
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I was once getting cash out of an ATM before a date at 16 years old in South St. Pete (54 Ave south) when the alarm inside triggered. Numerous cops rolled up on me and my friend. The sticking point was that they did not believe my story because I only got out $5. Back then you could get out $5 at a time. Who plans to go on a date with just 5 dollars? - "I do, Officer. Me, the guy who knows how to hang onto money."
 
I was once getting cash out of an ATM before a date at 16 years old in South St. Pete (54 Ave south) when the alarm inside triggered. Numerous cops rolled up on me and my friend. The sticking point was that they did not believe my story because I only got out $5. Back then you could get out $5 at a time. Who plans to go on a date with just 5 dollars? - "I do, Officer. Me, the guy who knows how to hang onto money."
You must be a Tom Leykis disciple! :p
 
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I was once getting cash out of an ATM before a date at 16 years old in South St. Pete (54 Ave south) when the alarm inside triggered. Numerous cops rolled up on me and my friend. The sticking point was that they did not believe my story because I only got out $5. Back then you could get out $5 at a time. Who plans to go on a date with just 5 dollars? - "I do, Officer. Me, the guy who knows how to hang onto money."

 
I was once getting cash out of an ATM before a date at 16 years old in South St. Pete (54 Ave south) when the alarm inside triggered. Numerous cops rolled up on me and my friend. The sticking point was that they did not believe my story because I only got out $5. Back then you could get out $5 at a time. Who plans to go on a date with just 5 dollars? - "I do, Officer. Me, the guy who knows how to hang onto money."
Now it costs nearly $5 just to use the ATM machine.
 
The courses have leaned to the exotic:

Code work, lock picking (called "Picks and Locks"), opening packages without detection ("Flaps and Seals"), how to evade hostile pursuers ("Defensive Driving") and arranging pick-up of clandestine material ("Drops").

For nearly 25 years, neophyte spies have left Washington to attend what some call Spy U., a training base here operated by the Central Intelligence Agency to prepare its agents for real-life cloak-and-dagger work overseas.

The heavily-forested, 10,000-acre site is secretive, but hardly remote. Known as Camp Peary to outsiders and "The Farm" to CIA insiders, the base is a $37 million complex nestled in deer-filled woods and tidal recesses within minutes of two of Virginia's biggest tourist attractions -- Colonial Williamsburg and Busch Gardens.

But if few of the area's, one million annual visitors know Camp Peary exists, even fewer local residents -- used to restricted areas at the dozen-odd military bases in Tidewater -- show much curiosity about its role.

The CIA prefers it that way.

"You can't conduct that kind of training in the middle of G.W.," says William Colby, the former CIA director who visited the facility and lectured there during his years as the agency's chief.

Chain-link fence and stern-gazed military sentries keep away unwelcome outsiders, although local repairmen occassionally are premitted on the base to perform maintenance work. When a local softball team sponsored by Lee Williams Exxon in Williamsburg played Camp Peary recently, the squad was met at the gate and accompained to a playing field. The visitors won both games of a doubleheader, then were promptly escorted back off the base.

Like a longtime neighbor who keeps to himself, Camp Peary has gone about its quiet business since the days when white-haired, pipe-smoking Allen Dulles, then the CIA's director, established it to provide paramilitary training agency operatives.

Before that, it was a prisoner-of-war amp for captured German soldiers, and before that a training base for Naval construction battalions (the Seabees). Ellis Bingley remembers when it was just a sleepy little Tidewater community known as Magruder.

Bingley lived in a house there from 1921 to 1943. In 1976, he was permitted to visit his old house under military escort, but was not allowed to enter.

"It's a big secret. Hasn't much leaked out about it. News is right scarce," say Bingley.

J. Patrick McGarvey, in a 1972 book called "The CIA: The Myth and the Madness," described an ornate mock border scene on The Farm, "replete with high barbed wire fences, plowed strips, watchtowers, roving patrols and searchlights." The recruits' mission was "to case the place" undetected.

Aerial photographs, taken by local authorities for tax purposes and a available to the public, show widely scattered clusters of barracks and guest houses, an enormous warehouse, a gymnasium, target ranges and a long, private air strip with a huge "R" for "Restricted" painted on it.

But since the mid-1970s, paramilitary activities at the Farm have been on the decline. Today the basic training courses continue, but there are also top-secret conferences and "think tank" sessions there.

There are occasional signs of humor. A movie shown recently at the base theater was "The In-Laws," a spoof about a CIA agent's adventures in a fictitious Latin American country. One alumnus of the Farm, who asked not to be named, talked of encountering new recruits wearing trench coats in the middle of summer because they thought it would fit the CIA image.

Whatever the base's business, many civilians in the Newport News-Williamsburg area, which is thickly populated by retired military officers, refuse even to acknowledge that Camp Peary is run by the CIA.

"If it is, it is," says Williamsburg city manager Frank Force. "We try to be good neighbors. We're quite patriotic here."

Ostensibly, Camp Peary is a Defense Department -- not CIA -- installation known as the Armed Forces Experimental Training Activity. It is carried on the Navys inventory of bases, but the Navy refers calls to the Defense Department. Defense says only that it is "top secret." c

For the insatiably curious, Camp Peary has a public affairs officer, John Turnicky, to handle outsiders' inquiries. Contacted recently, Turnicky said there was nothing he could reveal.

"My job's very enjoyable. It's very simple. Goodby," he said politely, hanging up the phone.
There’s no way anyone read all this, is there?
 
There’s no way anyone read all this, is there?

TLDR: There is/was a bunch of spy training facilities hidden in plain sight near the tourist attractions and college in Williamsburg. What the article doesn’t say is that they did that on purpose to make it harder for other country’s spies to determine who was training because of the large influx of students and tourists hiding the everchanging spy student body.
 
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Summer of '78 I was between assignments and was driving to California in my new Corvette. I decided to go through Alamogordo as a buddy of mine was stationed there flying F15s. He said he had to sit alert that day so just come out to the alert shack. I drove out there, parked and walked up to the guard shack and he came out and escorted me in. While we were visiting, he asked me if I had ever sat in an F15 and I said no. So he took me out to the hangar and I climbed in his alert bird.
About that time his crew chief came in and asked if I had signed in. The guard never asked me to. Seems they had just had a shift change and the new guard didn't know who I was and called it a security breech. I was then escorted to the Security Police station for the Helping Hand (like Broken Arrow in SAC) I inadvertently caused. Sorted it all out, had a laugh with the guys, and went on my way.
 
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This was pre-9/11, but my brother-in-law and his wife were driving on the interstate in Atlanta near the airport. She was driving and he had fallen asleep. When he woke up they had somehow blundered their way onto the airport runway. And lived to tell the story.
 
This was pre-9/11, but my brother-in-law and his wife were driving on the interstate in Atlanta near the airport. She was driving and he had fallen asleep. When he woke up they had somehow blundered their way onto the airport runway. And lived to tell the story.

:Face with Tears of Joy

I've heard of planes being forced to land on the highway, but that's a twist!
 
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