A submersible that takes rich folks down to see the Titanic in person is missing. $250,000 per person. Whoops.
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Shit. You would think they had a solid safety protocol.A submersible that takes rich folks down to see the Titanic in person is missing. $250,000 per person. Whoops.
12,000+ feet down.Shit. You would think they had a solid safety protocol.
Maybe they surface soon.
Whoopsie daisy.
We might sacrifice you for that guarantee!I wouldn't get in one of those things even if it guaranteed a lifetime of wins over the Stinkin' Gators!
I wouldn't get in one of those things even if it guaranteed a lifetime of wins over the Stinkin' Gators!
So a couple rich folks pay 250k each to get in a casket (sub) to go 13,000 feet under water at a pressure of around 5700 lb per sq inch. Just for comparison the pressure at sea level is 14.6. That's just one of a number of issues at that depth. This sub gets lost and multiple countries navies and coast guards are spending millions and risking lives to find them. Isn't there a inherent risk in this behavior and shouldn't the company that does this be held financially responsible for the bill? Just like a rescue swimmer that dies while saving an idiot that swims in a double red. The person they saved should be sued for negligence at best.
Compare that reaction to a boatful of migrants sinking and it makes no sense.
Bit of an overreach, don't you think?Like climbing my Everest! It’s a risk but it’s their risk!
From memory they've done '90s successful trips already. There's risk in everything.Shit. You would think they had a solid safety protocol.
Maybe they surface soon.
Whoopsie daisy.
Common sense is not common.From memory they've done '90s successful trips already. There's risk in everything.
Rich tourists can also go into space and there's a high risk in that I bet.
As far as liability I'm sure there's tons of legal proof waivers of liability. Common Sense would tell you the risk is huge.
So lets say the sub gets turned into a smashed can and they dont recover them. The governments of two countries have spent millions of dollars on search and recovery efforts. Someone should be on the hook for that.From memory they've done '90s successful trips already. There's risk in everything.
Rich tourists can also go into space and there's a high risk in that I bet.
As far as liability I'm sure there's tons of legal proof waivers of liability. Common Sense would tell you the risk is huge.
Good luck with that.So lets say the sub gets turned into a smashed can and they dont recover them. The governments of two countries have spent millions of dollars on search and recovery efforts. Someone should be on the hook for that.
I read that it was only the 3rd trip for this particular vessel.From memory they've done '90s successful trips already. There's risk in everything.
Rich tourists can also go into space and there's a high risk in that I bet.
As far as liability I'm sure there's tons of legal proof waivers of liability. Common Sense would tell you the risk is huge.
I wonder what credentials he has to certify hull crush depth on submarines? I mean its only 220 lb per sq inch difference so what could go wrong? Cheaper hull, sketchy depth certs sounds like a story out of Russia.I'm reading some sketchy stuff about this sub. Carbon fiber hull because it was cheaper than titanium. They are bolted in, only way out is for someone on the outside to unbolt the hatch.
Was not originally certified to 12,500 but was later lowered to 13,000...by the owner/CEO.
Doesn't sound promising right now.
I'm reading some sketchy stuff about this sub. Carbon fiber hull because it was cheaper than titanium.
This will be an interesting investigation to say the least. Safe to say this company probably wont be taking folks underwater anymore. Why wouldn't you have someone like the American Bureau of Shipping certify the hull and why isn't it a requirement? This statement is a good one too. "The vast majority of marine (and aviation) accidents are a result of operator error, not mechanical failure,” it reads. “As a result, simply focusing on classing the vessel does not address the operational risks. Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification.” Wow.Yes a carbon fiber hull. Whistleblower was fired.
But then again maybe not carbon fiber after further reading.
"Spencer Composites says that the Titan was not using its carbon fiber hull on Sunday’s dive."
A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired. | TechCrunch
The director of marine operations at OceanGate was fired after raising concerns about its first-of-a-kind carbon fiber hull.techcrunch.com
The Titanic is around 350 miles off shore. At 24 knots or around 27mph that would take around 12 hours. So that expedition ship the Polar Prince can go 87 mph in the water?I didn't know the Titanic less than 4 hours from shore when it sunk. If they could have only hung on for 4 hours they could have grounded it and saved a lot of lives.
4 hours to launch the sub from departure. And it took time to prep the sub for the dive. So maybe two or three hours from shore.
TIMELINE OF MISSING SUBMERSIBLE
SUNDAY
4AM: Departure from Newfoundland on expedition ship the Polar Prince
8AM: The Titan, a five-person, 22ft submersible, submerges
9.45AM: Titan loses comms with the expedition ship
5.40PM: US Coast Guard alerted
9.13PM: Coast Guard station in Nova Scotia alerted
MONDAY
Missing sub is first reported by media
THURSDAY 8AM: 96 hours since submersion
OceanGate took EIGHT HOURS to report missing submersible
The company's Titan sub submerged at 8am on Sunday morning around 400 miles southeast of St John's, Newfoundland. At 9.45am - an hour and 45 minutes into the dive - it lost contact.www.dailymail.co.uk
The Titanic is around 350 miles off shore. At 24 knots or around 27mph that would take around 12 hours. So that expedition ship the Polar Prince can go 87 mph in the water?
What a shit show this is turning into. You have to feel bad for the folks on the sub and their families but what an example of a completely avoidable event.Before boarding the sub, Pogue was given a tour of the vessel, during which he commented on its “improvised design.” This included lighting from Camping World and an unofficial Playstation controller used to drive the submarine.
CBS Story On OceanGate’s Missing Titanic Sub Goes Viral After Reporter David Pogue Got Jitters Over Its “Jerry-Rigged” Design
A six-month-old CBS report on OceanGate’s Titanic tourism submarine is going viral on social media after reporter David Pogue raised safety concerns about the now-missing vessel. Pogue visited OceanGate’s operations last year and was submerged in the $1M submarine, named Titan, which vanished...www.yahoo.com
And with no shoes.No power. Imagine sitting in a minivan with 4 buddies, no seats, in the pitch black where you can’t see each other and it’s 39 degrees outside.
I read a few articles that stated the same thing and they are unlikely to last until the 96 hours of air runs out.I don't think it has a heat source either. They could die of exposure. The water is close to freezing down there.