Turns out the DVR thing was a glitch. It's been fixed.
That's cool. Let's hope that sticks. It appears that for every other service, IF what you DVR is in the VOD library, your "recording" reverts to the VOD version. And that means you can't skip commercials. It sure sounded like Vue was making that change because it's industry consistent...maybe they got a lot of pushback and it's now a "glitch." But glad to hear, and hope it sticks.
So last night, I decided to take a spin and give Hulu with Live TV a try.
Disadvantages: No AMC.
Interface doesn't use an EPG grid...it's all content based. It's a bit disoriented at first, but there's an elegance to it, especially considering that access to Hulu's considerable content inventory is included. I think it's the kind of thing you either get used to, or you don't, but it it seems stable and well designed enough that I'm willing to give it a try. The Sling App and interface was a total sh-- show, so I'm open to another approach. Also, no Android TV app yet, so while one room runs it on the XBox app (and well), in my main room I'm casting for the time being.
Also currently 30fps, 60fps is promised soon.
Advantages: Included is regular Hulu's huge library of TV shows and movies. At $40, it's $5 cheaper than Vue for the level with regional sports channels.
Also, there's kind of an interesting twist that is complicated, but I like. If a show is in the regular Hulu library, you can pay $4 more and it's commercial free. This does NOT apply to VOD that is NOT part of standard Hulu, but is included with Hulu With TV. So the way that works is this...let's take American Ninja Warriors:
Regular Hulu only has the latest episode of ANW every week. I could get that with a regular Hulu subscription. So if I add it to my shows, after it runs, it will be in "My Stuff". Rather than be a DVR recording, it will revert to the Hulu instance, and because I pay for commercial free, it will run without commercial interruption. However, on Hulu With Live TV, unlike regular Hulu, ALL episodes of ANW are available. If I go back and play one of those VOD, unskippable commercials.
So the way it breaks down...
DVR something that isn't in the Hulu standard or Hulu with TV library: Can FF commercials
DVR something that is in the Hulu standard library: No commercials at all
DVR something that is not in the Hulu standard library, but is in the enhanced With Live TV VOD library: Can't FF commercials
So, with my viewing habits, compared to Sling or Youtube TV (DirectTv doesn't have a DVR yet), I think this will have me dealing with much fewer commercials. Vue is potentially better vis a vis commercials, however, if you can continue to FF commercials on EVERYTHING you DVR (if that remains a fixed glitch).
So, assuming the whole thing is stable, I'm just going to play out how my viewing habits end up. If most of my viewing ends up being able to FF commercials or commercial free, I might stay with it. I do like some of the content available on Hulu, both their original programming and some of their movies occasionally. I don't mind occasionally having to watch commercials, if I also frequently get to watch 100% commercial free. But if I end up watching more commercials than suits me, I'll strongly consider VUE if you can continue to FF commercials in all recorded content.