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booker20

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Since someone has to do it, and i'd rather it be me teaching/ coaching kids than someone else, I have gotten myself back in to coaching youth soccer at the rec level.

I'm anything but a soccer aficionado... so I thought perhaps I could get some of the genius minds in here to assist me with basic strategy/ formation.

It is going to be 9v9 for my 3rd/ 4th graders (boys and girls).

I thought about running a 3-2-3, as it seems that would lend itself to both good offense and good defense.

What do y'all think?
 
In U8 rec my kids were still in the 1-Whatever-1 formation. Best player at striker, second best player as sweeper and all the other kids doing whatever.
 
Did you assemble your team, or was it random draw? If it was random draw, I'd set up a training session to evaluate what kind of players I had, that will give you an idea of their skill level and what formation you should start with.
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I know most of the girls on the team... my daughter participated on a club traveling team for a year or so, and a few of the girls i was able to draft were/ are on that team. The boys, I have no idea. It was set up so that whomever registered the kid, gave them and abilities rating between 1- 10... so how honest/ accurate it is is beyond me.

Luckily, I was able to get the best ball handler on the 9U club team.
 
Originally posted by hav2bme:
Did you assemble your team, or was it random draw? If it was random draw, I'd set up a training session to evaluate what kind of players I had, that will give you an idea of their skill level and what formation you should start with.
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Exactly. Also, when I coached my daughter at that age and sought advice from others (we played in a 7 v 7 league), they all told me to let them have fun and at that age they don't learn. I was stunned by that, by the end of the year the kids had learned several plays, including a few off of throw-ins, now of course, not every kid is going to be able to absorb the plays, so the evaluation is key, but make sure that all kids get the opportunity to learn and practice these plays.

Basics are important.... passing (with head up-you will find it tough for the kids to pass to each other as a lot of times the game will resemble a rugby scrum), trapping, dribbling.....

While doing the basic drills, add in drills that are fun for the kids so that they don't lose interest, and often times, you can find drills that are both fun and essential at the same time.

I was there to coach, not babysit, let the parents know that. I have to run out, but if I can add more later, I will. Good luck and enjoy!

This post was edited on 3/2 8:15 PM by Manch.
 
Originally posted by booker20:

Luckily, I was able to get the best ball handler on the 9U club team.
Good, now teach him how to pass!
 
I would set up passing and ball handling drills to gauge their skill level. It sounds like you have a good mix of kids, both experienced and newbies. You have to ask yourself, what is your goal, wins, or develop their skills and go from there.
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i would focus on tactics in addition to basic skills. things like give and go passes, how to hi/lo defend, etc. a lot of kids have been playing since U-4 so you'd be surprised what they can do. on offense - having some practice creating space and anticipating where their teammate will go is invaluable and can give you the edge. similarly on defense, if they understand their responsibility and how to adjust when they get help the tactic can overcome superior athletes.
 
Originally posted by booker20:
Since someone has to do it, and i'd rather it be me teaching/ coaching kids than someone else, I have gotten myself back in to coaching youth soccer at the rec level.

I'm anything but a soccer aficionado... so I thought perhaps I could get some of the genius minds in here to assist me with basic strategy/ formation.

It is going to be 9v9 for my 3rd/ 4th graders (boys and girls).

I thought about running a 3-2-3, as it seems that would lend itself to both good offense and good defense.

What do y'all think?

I've been coaching at the high school level for the last 4 years and started coaching 12 years ago with U10s all the way up to Middle School and now high school. I'd be happy to give you any tips or advice if you want. Just let me know and we can get in contact. Good luck!
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9v9 at that young age is tough. Like others have said it leads to too many scrums, etc. That said, I would really stress not bunching up. I coached my daughter's team and I would blow a whistle in a scrimmage every time they bunched up. Kids want to play without interruption so they learn quickly. Stick with it.

I also really emphasized spacing and passing and we were very successful. To emphasize passing, we'd play a lot of "two-touch" scrimmages where the players could only touch the ball twice before passing. Do this for 10 minutes every practice (you can start with 3-touch and work your way down if you to 2-touch if you choose). This will stop all ball-hogging and bunching up. Kids want to play more than anything so we ended up each practice with about a 10 or 15 minute scrimmage with no limitations but they'll take the concept of passing/not bunching up into the scrimmages before you know it.
 
teach the fundamentals..... passing ... trapping... dribbling....

try to develop better players to strike the ball hard for defensive clearance and shooting...(no toe balls)

stress spreading out and not swarming to the ball...

have fun and passing as a team should be the main goal...

fundamental techniques can be learned by watching instructional videos... along with drills for beginners...
 
The first game is in 3 weeks, and for one of those weeks, it is spring break... so in essence, we have approximately 8 open evenings we could practice, and two days (the fields are beside a church, so no practice on Wednesday nights or Sundays)

Yea, the girl who is the best ball handler on the club team is actually only in 3rd grade, but she is super fast and secure with the ball. I talked the other coaches in to letting me have her, because I'm good friends with her dad, and can 'handle' him lol. He likes to get pretty involved, and was barred from coaching things, not for yelling at the kids or anything, just being too enthusiastic.

I want to run a basic formation that gives the most kids the opportunity to play offense that there is... we have 2 subs, so I want to try and write out the substitution patter before hand so that there's no trying to do it on the fly with all the other distractions going on.

I thought a 3-2-3 would be good, but I was also reading about a 3-1-2-2... I just don't want to throw a bunch of stuff at these younger kids, especially those w/ no real soccer background, and expect them to now what they are doing.

We want to win (parents in this area (maybe all areas) are super competitive... but I want the kids to have fun, and learn... AND win.
 
Originally posted by Naught-Nole-Buc:
Originally posted by booker20:
Since someone has to do it, and i'd rather it be me teaching/ coaching kids than someone else, I have gotten myself back in to coaching youth soccer at the rec level.

I'm anything but a soccer aficionado... so I thought perhaps I could get some of the genius minds in here to assist me with basic strategy/ formation.

It is going to be 9v9 for my 3rd/ 4th graders (boys and girls).

I thought about running a 3-2-3, as it seems that would lend itself to both good offense and good defense.

What do y'all think?

I've been coaching at the high school level for the last 4 years and started coaching 12 years ago with U10s all the way up to Middle School and now high school. I'd be happy to give you any tips or advice if you want. Just let me know and we can get in contact. Good luck!
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booker20@warchant.com

I'll gladly take any tips/ drills. We won't have a ton of time for practicing, but I'm hoping that the better players that I already know we have will rub off on the weaker players that I don't know.

I planned to just start them out dribbling... cones, running, etc. Also, passing the ball to one another.

Something that is going to be hard is that this year they are going to start calling off-sides... I really hope to just get them to play/ learn the positions, and learn that if they are not involved in the play, they need to retreat to their area.
 
I'm barely an "assistant coach" on our church league team-- I don't have time to do the duties of a full team manager so I help out as needed.

Our team is 14u-- I really enjoy it. And it really has taken my interest in soccer to a whole new level. My son plays on the team.

We do a 3-4-3....but the key that we want is for the kids to have fun and so that everyone plays. Stress passing and defense.

The funniest thing is when you have a kid just nail the heck out of the ball usually a fullback that has never played any soccer nor has his parents because they will stand up and cheer when he does it...lol. I just think we would rather him pass the ball to a teammate rather than go for a homerun and essentially hand it over to the other team.


The only bad thing is the comment about super competitive parents-- good luck with that one...ugh.
 
I wish I knew enough about soccer to coach at that level. I love the game, but as I never played it and only recently started watching it about 4 or 5 years ago, I can't coach. I was fine for the 3, 4, and 5 year old leagues but started to see things changing real quick as my son got older.
 
Originally posted by GwinnettNole:
I'm barely an "assistant coach" on our church league team-- I don't have time to do the duties of a full team manager so I help out as needed.

Our team is 14u-- I really enjoy it. And it really has taken my interest in soccer to a whole new level. My son plays on the team.

We do a 3-4-3....but the key that we want is for the kids to have fun and so that everyone plays. Stress passing and defense.

The funniest thing is when you have a kid just nail the heck out of the ball usually a fullback that has never played any soccer nor has his parents because they will stand up and cheer when he does it...lol. I just think we would rather him pass the ball to a teammate rather than go for a homerun and essentially hand it over to the other team.


The only bad thing is the comment about super competitive parents-- good luck with that one...ugh.
When we first moved to this school district, the first thing I did was sign up to coach whatever rec sport I could as a way to integrate us into the community and meet more people with children our age. Since then, I've coached soccer 3 or 4 times, basketball a couple of times, and softball 5 or six times...

The parents can be huge PITA... but I try to define what I expect out of them at the very beginning... and explain to them that I expect them to act like the adults that they are/ set good examples, etc. Sometimes it even works...
 
How big is the field? 9v9 is a lot of players on the field at that age - most places play either 6 or 7 aside with 8/9 yo kids.
 
Originally posted by SeaPA:

How big is the field? 9v9 is a lot of players on the field at that age - most places play either 6 or 7 aside with 8/9 yo kids.
I have no idea to be honest... which is a problem. The teams are soo big because of the huge amount of participation... soccer is finally starting to get a foothold in the area. I've never played, never even really considered it worthwhile when I was growing up in very rural Western KY... but you learn as you go I guess.

I agree it's a lot of players... I'm also coaching my 7yo's team (7U), but it is 7v7.
 
I coached my daughter's rec team and her Tarsa team. It was a great experience.

The highlight? Beating the number 1 seeded team in a tournament by going totally defensive and taking them to penalty kicks. The opposing team's parents were expecting to blow us out and by the end of the game were severely frustrated. They were yelling at the refs that having 4 defensive backs and 4 midfielders was not legal..>>BWHAHAHA.
 
Originally posted by booker20:
Originally posted by Naught-Nole-Buc:
Originally posted by booker20:
Since someone has to do it, and i'd rather it be me teaching/ coaching kids than someone else, I have gotten myself back in to coaching youth soccer at the rec level.

I'm anything but a soccer aficionado... so I thought perhaps I could get some of the genius minds in here to assist me with basic strategy/ formation.

It is going to be 9v9 for my 3rd/ 4th graders (boys and girls).

I thought about running a 3-2-3, as it seems that would lend itself to both good offense and good defense.

What do y'all think?

I've been coaching at the high school level for the last 4 years and started coaching 12 years ago with U10s all the way up to Middle School and now high school. I'd be happy to give you any tips or advice if you want. Just let me know and we can get in contact. Good luck!
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booker20@warchant.com

I'll gladly take any tips/ drills. We won't have a ton of time for practicing, but I'm hoping that the better players that I already know we have will rub off on the weaker players that I don't know.

I planned to just start them out dribbling... cones, running, etc. Also, passing the ball to one another.

Something that is going to be hard is that this year they are going to start calling off-sides... I really hope to just get them to play/ learn the positions, and learn that if they are not involved in the play, they need to retreat to their area.


I'll send you an email tomorrow. I might have missed, but what age level are the kids?

I have a few ideas of drills and formations/tactics for you to use that are pretty simple conceptually for the kids to understand and run in matches.
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Originally posted by More Kirk Less Spock:
They were yelling at the refs that having 4 defensive backs and 4 midfielders was not legal..>>BWHAHAHA.
When kids that age do a goal kick, the kick doesn't go far and the other team gets it and often scores, especially if the goalie takes the kick, so I would keep the keeper in net and let a defenseman take the "goal kick", the other team's parents would scream that this was illegal, that the goalie needs to take to the goal kick. Bwahahahahahaha.
 
If you tried to coach kids in my area, they would run you off for not knowing the game

I'd go with a very simple 3-3-2
 
Originally posted by booker20:

Originally posted by SeaPA:

How big is the field? 9v9 is a lot of players on the field at that age - most places play either 6 or 7 aside with 8/9 yo kids.
I have no idea to be honest... which is a problem. The teams are soo big because of the huge amount of participation... soccer is finally starting to get a foothold in the area. I've never played, never even really considered it worthwhile when I was growing up in very rural Western KY... but you learn as you go I guess.

I agree it's a lot of players... I'm also coaching my 7yo's team (7U), but it is 7v7.
I ask primarily because one of the big things that typically changes in rec league soccer at that age is that it becomes vastly more important to play positional soccer. When they are U8, they are usually playing on a very small field (like the size of a half basketball court). A good athlete can dominate and go from end to end pretty easily. At U10 they move to a much bigger field, where it isn't possible to run all over the place (they'll often try, and might do ok for 5 minutes, but then they are gassed).

At 8/9 years old, you really need to emphasize staying in your area.
 
BWJ- no, they wouldn't... Because none of them were willing to get off their asses and do it.

I def. want 3 defensive backs and a or including a sweeper...

Now the guy in charge is telling me he's moved my best player to another team-- total bs because she was my first pick in the draft...
 
Originally posted by Manch.:


Originally posted by More Kirk Less Spock:
They were yelling at the refs that having 4 defensive backs and 4 midfielders was not legal..>>BWHAHAHA.
When kids that age do a goal kick, the kick doesn't go far and the other team gets it and often scores, especially if the goalie takes the kick, so I would keep the keeper in net and let a defenseman take the "goal kick", the other team's parents would scream that this was illegal, that the goalie needs to take to the goal kick. Bwahahahahahaha.
Yeah, I've about always had my strongest defender take the goal kicks at that age. If you position a skilled offensive player out of the box, in front of the guy taking the kick, he'll inevitably pick up a couple of scoring chances a game when the goal kick is struck poorly. If you don't have a kid with a strong leg in back, teach them to angle it outward, towards where the midfield line meets the sideline. At least if that gets struck poorly it doesn't result in a 1 on 1 with the keeper, since it's off towards the side.

Formation, I'd probably base things around a 3.3.2, with the guys in the middle on the 3 lines staggered based on whether you want to play more offensive or defensive, and what kind of skill/speed they have.
 
The local rec league here loves to run a 3-1-1 in 6 v 6 U8,U9 & U10. Can anyone give me a reason why this formation is a good idea? The two pour kids on the sides have to cover the entire field. Why not a 2-1-2 or 2-2-1?
 
Don't forget to teach them the most important thing in soccer, "THE FLOP". make sure they really sell it, roll around on the ground, scream and cry, etc......
 
Originally posted by SoddyNole:
The local rec league here loves to run a 3-1-1 in 6 v 6 U8,U9 & U10. Can anyone give me a reason why this formation is a good idea? The two pour kids on the sides have to cover the entire field. Why not a 2-1-2 or 2-2-1?
No clue why a 3-1-1 is used. My daughter plays in the U8 Academy here and they play a 1-2-2, which is really a modified 3-2. Essentially the 1 in the back is the main defender while the 2 in the middle are the wingers responsible for the entire touch line from end to end. Then the 2 up top are the strikers / forwards.

I like this formation, especially when all the players understand the shape and know where they are supposed to be.
 
8-9 year old is important in soccer development. Most kids start traveling squads around that age. Fundamentals, ball control and passing and defensive technique is a good base.

Also, why in the hell are they playing 9v9 and not 11v11? What's the point in convoluting the game like that.
 
Originally posted by BassinNole:

Don't forget to teach them the most important thing in soccer, "THE FLOP". make sure they really sell it, roll around on the ground, scream and cry, etc......

Couldn't resist huh? Lol
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Originally posted by ericram:
Be prepared to have little Johnny and Jane's mom and dad be all up in your grill if they don't play.
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Depending on what mom looks like, that may not be such a bad thing.
 
Originally posted by SWFNole:

Originally posted by ericram:
Be prepared to have little Johnny and Jane's mom and dad be all up in your grill if they don't play.
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Depending on what mom looks like, that may not be such a bad thing.
News at 11... "ericram and soccer momma seen sideline slumming"
 
Originally posted by booker20:
BWJ- no, they wouldn't... Because none of them were willing to get off their asses and do it.

I def. want 3 defensive backs and a or including a sweeper...

Now the guy in charge is telling me he's moved my best player to another team-- total bs because she was my first pick in the draft...
Yes they would.

I volunteered to coach my 4 year old girls team, and they had a former ODP (Olympic development program) coach already in place... with 3 college players as assistants.

And btw, I was a paid youth soccer coach for years after my 20 year career.
 
Originally posted by BassinNole:

Don't forget to teach them the most important thing in soccer, "THE FLOP". make sure they really sell it, roll around on the ground, scream and cry, etc......
You don't have to teach kids that age how to do that, a good number of kids are so pampered already, that looking at them wrong and they hit the ground crying, nevermind a bigger kid bumping into him/her and taking the ball.

We played a team that was stacked (the coach's wife was the commissioner and the it was supposed to be a random draw for players, yea right) and they would beat everyone 15/16-0/1, our last game they beat us 5-1, and the score was pretty much 3-0 for most of the game, a tight game for them. Every kid was supposed to get equal playing time, but in the 2nd half, their lesser players sat on a blanket and played house or something and the coach argued that they didn't feel like playing.

My goal as a coach was to get the kids to enjoy the game and hopefully learn. My goal was that if any of these kids never kicked another ball in their life, that if they were channel surfing and a game was on, that they would stop and watch this beautiful game.

I think I did a good job as a coach, and other than this "super" team", we did well and most of my players scored. I knew we wouldn't score much in our last game against the "super" team, so my next to last game, I had two kids who hadn't scored yet, one was my daughter. I played them at forward and even gave them some extra time on the field to try to score. My daughter wasn't comfortable at forward so I moved her back to defense where she was solid. The other girl scored with 2 minutes left in the game and came running over to me and surprised the hell out of me when she jumped in my arms, and that right there made the whole season worthwhile.

Getting back to my earlier goals, that was the last year that my daughter played, and a few weeks ago I was watching Manchester United and they were winning 1-0. My daughter started to walk past me when she stopped and sat down next to me on the couch and stated that I would be in a good mood the rest of the day if United held on, then she asked me "if Rooney had scored" and that shocked the hell out of me! I knew she knew who MUFC is because I am a huge fan, but knowing who Wayne Rooney was and who he played for surprised me and she told me that she watches with her friends when she goes over their house. I guess my goal of making a fan out of some of them even though they don't play anymore came through!

A little while later, my daughter asked me if I would disown her if she were to like Manchester City and I told her that I most certainly would, but I'd still love her!
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Today, my daughter does cheerleading for the local youth football team, and yes, she also cheers for Manchester United!
 
Originally posted by BloodyNoseJose:
Give every kid ONE thing to do based on their strengths. Set them up for success and they'll have more fun.
I can't stress how correct you are! That's why my daughter played defense, she was more comfortable with the ball coming towards her, rather than her having to go after it and collecting it while fighting off the scrum. She had a lot of trouble keeping the ball and moving forward as a striker and she lost all confidence. When she played D, she was courageous and had a ton of confidence and you could see the difference in her face when she would thwart an attack and the parents would cheer.
 
Originally posted by CobNole:
We run 5-1-2 and it works really well.

This or 4-3-1.

The kids at rec level are going to fly upfield anyway so load up in defense and midfield and always have 3 to 4 players available to clog the middle and push the play wide.

Just make sure to focus on the fundamentals. Pass the ball around, keep it on the ground as much as possible.

If you have ever coached basketball apply the same principles.
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