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I did find the back and forth amusing between one congressman. Who is your main competitor?
Which aspect of our business?
Who does what you do?
Well.......
I know Zuck wasn't trying to be funny, but he was also trying to NOT answer the question. They do a lot with the data on the back end, primarily sell for a revenue stream, but he simply didn't want to answer IMO. He didn't want to say myspace/monopoly.
His response to the questions about would like like everyone to know which hotel you stayed in last night was great as well.
Which aspect of our business?
Who does what you do?
Well.......
I know Zuck wasn't trying to be funny, but he was also trying to NOT answer the question. They do a lot with the data on the back end, primarily sell for a revenue stream, but he simply didn't want to answer IMO. He didn't want to say myspace/monopoly.
His response to the questions about would like like everyone to know which hotel you stayed in last night was great as well.
I guess I still don't understand the "big" picture here.
I have no expectation of privacy on facebook, personally, beyond controlling who can easily access my posts or photos or whatever. If I leave facebook, and o search something on google, and come back and find to facebook and find an ad related to my search- I consider that convenient not intrusive.
I have no expectation of privacy on the internet, at all, really. I'm aware I can probably keep my SO from checking my browser history for porn, but I'm not under some illusion that I can go to private browser mode and do anything anonymously.
At any given time, I could just stop using facebook, or the internet, and keep my total isolation if I wanted. I could have the newspaper delivered again, and read any number of articles without fear of being tracked, and read ads that don't relate to me.
I have no expectation of privacy on facebook, personally, beyond controlling who can easily access my posts or photos or whatever. If I leave facebook, and o search something on google, and come back and find to facebook and find an ad related to my search- I consider that convenient not intrusive.
I have no expectation of privacy on the internet, at all, really. I'm aware I can probably keep my SO from checking my browser history for porn, but I'm not under some illusion that I can go to private browser mode and do anything anonymously.
At any given time, I could just stop using facebook, or the internet, and keep my total isolation if I wanted. I could have the newspaper delivered again, and read any number of articles without fear of being tracked, and read ads that don't relate to me.
I'm banking on the likelihood that there's a lot of deviants out there with much more interesting search histories than mine. Like all you guys.
I think when FB was JUST taking your actions and keeping internal, it wasn't a big deal if they were customizing your FB experience. They apparently also stated they were not selling your information. Now, it turns out they ARE selling your information and it isn't just to companies that want to sell you new undies or whatever you were searching on chrome etc. There is also concern with them allowing 3rd party access to what you didn't want to give access to, that is why they do have security settings on your account on who sees your content. They have SET and expectation of privacy and are undermining that agreement.
Now it also seems that if you are using multiple platforms that are all linked, they are also recording your texts etc.
We have also seen fake identities being created, user accounts being stolen and a many "news" or information articles being passed that appears to be news however it clearly isn't.
You may have no expectation of privacy, I generally agree with that. But I think most people DO have some expectation. I also get 0 % of my news from FB, apparently many people do.
Now it also seems that if you are using multiple platforms that are all linked, they are also recording your texts etc.
We have also seen fake identities being created, user accounts being stolen and a many "news" or information articles being passed that appears to be news however it clearly isn't.
You may have no expectation of privacy, I generally agree with that. But I think most people DO have some expectation. I also get 0 % of my news from FB, apparently many people do.
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Very well said. those that don't think this is a big deal will be surprised when they get calls, emails, texts etc. from places/companies they didn't even no existed. Hey no worries if you are good with all your info from on-line activity being shared with everyone.
If your OK with all of that, send/post nudes of the wife/GF and copies of your bank statement.
I don't have any of that stuff photographed, but I DO have a pic inside Tenn's refrigerator from years ago...
Excellent!
I don't have any of that stuff photographed, but I DO have a pic inside Tenn's refrigerator from years ago...
I’m not sure how you made that leap- I’m ok with consenting to my information being shared so my free app can slut me to advertisers : everything is free game
Why does Tenn jar his urine and store it in his fridge?
I don't have any of that stuff photographed, but I DO have a pic inside Tenn's refrigerator from years ago...
You've consented to much much more on just about every app on your phone and on most social media platforms.
I do can my urine, it does not go in the fridge. Of the photo's I've shared, not sure why Nolo (or Google?), saved that one. And not my MS Paint photos.
This is exactly why I don't know what I should be concerned about. Vague indications that the "worst is yet to come" without any specifics of what I've given up, or how it will come back to get me. I want to care about this, but no ones given me a reason why yet.
It’s aleays the guy that everyone was normal, quiet and kept to himself that has a coll croon of toe nails and keeps mother’s body in the guest bedroom.
They did have access to enough info to fill in enough gaps to (with enough motivation) materially affect your identity and/or rights. Ditto for 50 years ago in a small town - everyone knew your car and house, gossiped about this or that, and could easily (with sufficient motivation) make your life hell if they so desired. Now it just seems scarier because there's no face to the "threat". I don't buy that as a material difference - simply a cause for irrational over-reaction.
Your identity can be taken but that was true 15 years ago, where congress had testimony of identity thieves who only needed a last name and part of an address.
That’s the benign example of companies misusing your data.
The more malicious is when your data winds up in the wrong hands, as happened to 87m users w Cambridge analytica, or worse in the hands of a malicious govt who then use it to sort or punish people, deliver propaganda, etc...
Knowing where you live, work, go after work, spend your money, pray, not pray, eat, shop, have a mistress, sexual fetishes, insecurities, financial situation or issues, etc... could expose tremendous security or safety vulnerabilities for everyone of us, not the least of which is that we’d all be reasonably susseptible to blackmail or manipulation.
We all have secrets and more likely than not Google and/or Facebook know yours.
Neither, but fb, specifically has proven to be a very careless custodian of those secrets, do you trust them to get better at it just bc they say so? We are at the tip of the iceberg in terms of their AI power and other entities attempts to abuse or hack them.
I'm supposed to be worried my willfully surrendered data, will be maliciously used against me?
Alternatively, I know my credit information is secure.
Alternatively, I know my credit information is secure.
Willfully surrendered data maybe not, but have you been willfully surrendering your location, purchase history, google search, pageview, phone contact, email correspondence data? If so, then I guess no worries, but if you have any desire for the contents of those items to remain private and or not used to harm or manipulate you in some way, then yes be worried.
And frankly, if you're not worried, no big deal. That's you
All that stuff is backed up in my icloud, so I'm sure I checked a disclosure box at some point.
It is to the extent that it's an extreme example of what can be done with your information. The bottom line is people are upset and paranoid about "their information" aka identity. Truth is this stuff has been tracked and known about in many ways for a long time.
Facebook (which I'm not on) may be an obvious target but that misses the forest for the trees.
If the multiple scenarios mentioned in this thread by myself and others don't bother you, then they don't bother you. End of discussion.
I'm not sure how that's possible but I also care more about the issue than one person's opinion that it's no big deal.
End of discussion. There's no real threat here, and it's a dog and pony show.
Why is Zucker testifying, when equifax was hacked? One has a clear risk involved, when the other does not.
Are you cringing every time you sign a credit release?
Are you cringing every time you sign a credit release?
Not clear on what you're saying, the Equifax CEO testified also
https://www.wired.com/story/equifax-ceo-congress-testimony/
And again we can agree to disagree on the risk involved.
My opinion, and that of many here is likely that neither is at all benign and the organizational apathy from both entities is astounding. You can disagree. No worries.
I am continuously surprised many people consider the world in A or B scenarios. Why is A AND B such a hard concept? See any discussion on what our govt is doing. "Why focus on topic A, why not B?" Ahh, they likely ARE working on both and many others.... all at once.
That you’re not even sure what you’ve signed away is part of the point.
“Saying you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.”
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