FHP Honchos Retire Over Ticket Quota Emails

[TC Nole OX]

Update to the Utah nurse story. The hospital has updated it's policies and police officers will not be allowed to interact with nurses. That alone speaks volumes to the problems with police in this country. Also, two officers have been given paid vacation and the state attorney is investigating. I suppose that is a slight improvement over the police investigating themselves as is usually how things are handled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m-contact-with-nurses-after-appalling-arrest/

 

[SeaPA]

That's actually a myth. The pay isn't low. It's much more than most jobs requiring a similar education and training. It's also not that dangerous. It doesn't even break the top ten of dangerous jobs. It's one of the safer blue collar jobs you can have.

In addition, the benefits are typically quite generous.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

Apparently Las Vegas police cuffed and put a gun to the head of Michael Bennett (Seattle Seahawks) last weekend. He's pretty vocal so I can't see this fizzling out anytime soon. Link

Adding him to the unwarranted police assaults James Blake (tennis) and Thabo Sefolosha (NBA) and you start piling up wealthy athletes with large platforms.

 

[LesClaypool]

Apparently Las Vegas police cuffed and put a gun to the head of Michael Bennett (Seattle Seahawks) last weekend. He's pretty vocal so I can't see this fizzling out anytime soon. Link

Adding him to the unwarranted police assaults James Blake (tennis) and Thabo Sefolosha (NBA) and you start piling up wealthy athletes with large platforms.

Small clarification...the article doesn't say that a gun was put to his head. Allegedly an officer said, "I'll blow your head off" while he was ordered to the ground.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that that's what you meant. It would be an honest mistake.

 

[Phyrst1]

In addition, the benefits are typically quite generous.

I call BS on on all this. Pay sucked and the benefits were nil. I did get shot at, cut with a knife, a blown knee and a Grady Card (people in Atlanta will understand). But I do appreciate all the support. Keep in mind, there are thousands and thousands of civilian/police interactions daily that do not end up on the six o'clock news....

 

[seminole97]

Adding him to the unwarranted police assaults James Blake (tennis) and Thabo Sefolosha (NBA) and you start piling up wealthy athletes with large platforms.

Thabo Sefolosha sounds like the name of a minor Jedi who is in the background of three scenes then dies without any dialogue.

 

[KitingHigh]

I call BS on on all this. Pay sucked and the benefits were nil. I did get shot at, cut with a knife, a blown knee and a Grady Card (people in Atlanta will understand). But I do appreciate all the support. Keep in mind, there are thousands and thousands of civilian/police interactions daily that do not end up on the six o'clock news....

Police are civilians.

 

[SeaPA]

I call BS on on all this. Pay sucked and the benefits were nil. I did get shot at, cut with a knife, a blown knee and a Grady Card (people in Atlanta will understand). But I do appreciate all the support. Keep in mind, there are thousands and thousands of civilian/police interactions daily that do not end up on the six o'clock news....

No clue how things are in Georgia. In Florida, police $ firefighters are typically eligible for full pension benefits at age 50. In some places they can start drawing a pension of 60 percent of their salary, with cola, while in their 40s. I know a number of retired officers who were making 70k or more at the end of their careers, who retired in their early 50s and started drawing 60 to 70k pensions in addition to walking away with another 250k in drop money. Police and firemen are a much bigger drain on the State retirement program than teachers, but it would be political suicide for an elected official to say that out loud

 

[billanole]

I have a nephew in Cali who is a detective in his 40's. He is looking to retire in his early 50's. He makes pretty decent pay and has very good benefits.
Sure there is danger involved in his work life, but just living is dangerous.

 

[LesClaypool]

No clue how things are in Georgia. In Florida, police $ firefighters are typically eligible for full pension benefits at age 50. In some places they can start drawing a pension of 60 percent of their salary, with cola, while in their 40s. I know a number of retired officers who were making 70k or more at the end of their careers, who retired in their early 50s and started drawing 60 to 70k salaries, in addition to walking away with another 250k in drop money. Police and firemen are a much bigger drain on the State retirement program than teachers, but it would be political suicide for an elected official to say that out loud

Great post!

 

[gunnyhiway]

Apparently Las Vegas police cuffed and put a gun to the head of Michael Bennett (Seattle Seahawks) last weekend. He's pretty vocal so I can't see this fizzling out anytime soon. Link

Adding him to the unwarranted police assaults James Blake (tennis) and Thabo Sefolosha (NBA) and you start piling up wealthy athletes with large platforms.

not so fast, my friend.

 

[kc78]

not so fast, my friend.

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I'm willing to listen if there's more to this story. If he did lie and make most of this up, then I think he needs to be roasted over the fire for it. There are legitimate abuses of power daily, but all it takes is one high profile fake case to deligitimze 1000 other valid cases for so many people.

As an advocate, it's hard enough to get people to entertain stories that the police might treat people of color differently than your average white American, when stories crying wolf emerge, it destroys almost any chance to get people to listen, no matter how valid 1000 other claims are.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

not so fast, my friend.

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We shall see what comes of it. It's Vegas, there's no shortage of camera angles.

I can't lend much credibility to the blogger who wrote this considering his multiple childish jabs at the 'liberal' media and 'msespn', it's clear he comes with his own agenda. He'd be much better off reporting the straight story without the commentary and hypocritical petulance, which is simply counterproductive to selling his point of view.

Like @kc78 said, if he fibbed, he should be roasted for it, but one false report doesn't negate the thousands of legit cases of police improperly using their power to seize assets, take advantage of motorists, target minorities, etc...

 

[TC Nole OX]

Like @kc78 said, if he fibbed, he should be roasted for it, but one false report doesn't negate the thousands of legit cases of police improperly using their power to seize assets, take advantage of motorists, target minorities, etc...

Word

 

[RunRonnieRun]

Used to be a cop, but I got to be too jumpy.
I used to like to party till I coughed up half a lung.
Sometimes late at night I hear the beat a-bumping
I reach for my holster and I wake up all alone.

Used to have a wife but she told me I was crazy.
Said she couldn't stand the way I fidget all the time.
Sometimes late at night I circle round the house.
I look through the windows and I dream that she's still mine.

I got scars on my back from the way my Daddy raised me.
I used to have a family until I got divorced.
I've gone too far from the things that could save me.
I used to be a cop, but they kicked me off the force.
I used to be a cop, till they kicked me off the force.

Used to have a car, but the bank came and took it.
Paying for a house that that bitch lives in now.
Children that we had won't even look at me.
Guess there's nothing left to lose, nothing matters anyhow.

Got a scar on my arm from the bullet that once grazed me.
I keep it in a box to remind me where I've been.
That thin blue line was the only thing that could save me.
I used to have a badge but they made me turn it in.

And I used to play football, but I wasn't big enough for college.
But I passed the entrance exam first try, and on my way.
Police Academy gave me the only thing I was ever good at,
but my temper and the shakes, and they took that thing away.

Used to have a wife, but she just couldn't deal
with the anger and the tension that was welling inside of me.
Sometimes late at night, I circle round the house
I look through the window and I remember how it used to be.
I look through the windows and I remember how it used to be.

 

[billanole]

Fun link to illustrate this point.

For the month of august Chicago had 341 people shot, but only 52 died as result.
I don't know if that is more or less people shot per capita compared to the 60s, but a tour in Afghanistan does sound safer.

So, only 52 dead is pretty good? My lord, I fear for my kids.

 

[seminole97]

So, only 52 dead is pretty good? My lord, I fear for my kids.

Deaths in Chicago are down from say the mid-60s or 70s, and the population is certainly larger, so just looking at homicide rate the inference would be that it's safer, but we don't know the number of people shot, and I think that would be a better comparison.

 

[billanole]

I agree pretty much with your premise, but I guess my concern is more about who is doing the killing. An "us vs. them" scenario is bubbling just below the surface regarding LEOs

 

[kc78]

I'd also like to point out that although Chicago has some major, major issues, it is an outlier when you look at the rest of the US. People keep pointing to Chicago as if it is indicative of the situation in the rest of the United States. It is not. Thankfully, Chicago seems to simply have it's own set of strange issues that have combined to create a terrible situation.

We definitely need to determine why Chicago is such an outlier and help to curb the crime rate there, but it should not be brought up every single time we discuss issues of Law Enforcement nation wide.

 

[RangerNole]

No clue how things are in Georgia. In Florida, police $ firefighters are typically eligible for full pension benefits at age 50. In some places they can start drawing a pension of 60 percent of their salary, with cola, while in their 40s. I know a number of retired officers who were making 70k or more at the end of their careers, who retired in their early 50s and started drawing 60 to 70k pensions in addition to walking away with another 250k in drop money. Police and firemen are a much bigger drain on the State retirement program than teachers, but it would be political suicide for an elected official to say that out loud

I cant speak for other states; but in SC the police and FF pension is separate from the state retirement system that covers teachers, state workers, etc. PORS (police officer retirement system) is in the black and the state retirement is in the red significantly. Every couple of years or so the legislature tries to merge them; but cant get the votes. They want to merge them so they can plus up the state system. We have no unions and you get 50% of your salary at age 55 or after 25 years on the job. There are no medical benefits at retirement and the pension is more of a 401k based system.