Why does there have to be studies when people have in fact gotten the virus more than once?
A woman who works in my laboratory (I'm an immunologist, incidentally) had COVID last year, got the vaccine, and just recently missed ~1 week after contracting the delta variant.
its just like the vaciine .. not typically but they can get it
In Florida we had over 125,000 cases last week alone with a positivity rate of 26.9%. This is as bad as its been since the onset of the pandemic. We could see a plateau by the start of the season or we could just as well see things continue to snowball into the fall. There are so many factors and variables involved I'm reticent to even speculate. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best...
I mean for football team and fans .. not the public
There are more breakthroughs than I anticipated. I try to keep up with what this thing is doing. No doubt the Delta is not what the Alpha was. The breakthroughs concern me. I was watching the news yesterday. I'm not going to get this just right so pardon the accuracy. There was an outbreak somewhere in New England where 700 or so tested positive in a highly vaccinated area. 74% of those were vaccinated people. This is not good, but severe cases are still very limited. Vaccinations are the key but Florida is not doing good with this. More talk about boosters. I'm 72 Any booster approvals and the wife and I will be at the head of the line.
Actually, your son was not lucky. Many many many children have caught covid and it is very very very very rare to have advanced symptoms as a child. He would be very unlucky if he was not fine. Take care. God bless.
If it’s like the vaccine why do we need it if we’ve had it?
I understand and share your frustration, the best explanation I can give you is that analysis and understanding of ths virus is an ongoing process which makes current information and best practices somewhat fungible and fluid as we continue to learn more about Covid and its variants. Many of our best practices currently in place were based on our understanding of the original strain. The delta variant, however produces exponentially higher viral loads which in turn produces greater droplet concentrations making this strain far more contagious. The latest data indicates delta could be anywhere from contagious as chickenpox to the mumps depending on situational variables. That would mean delta is approximately 1000% more contagious than original strain.
I think most agree or understand the delta variant is much more contagious thus the sudden spike but there seems to be little evidence it impacts anyone worse or even as bad. Maybe the delta is just God's way of vaccinating everyone else without as bad consequences of catching it? Honestly, regardless of testing, they should be able to project how many Americans have caught some variant of covid by now vacinated or not by now? 25%? 33%? up to half? If half the country is vaccinated and many of the remaining half have caught it, at what point do we declare it under control? It's hard to trust any covid stats you hear about even deaths by covid but the number as a % of the country's population after a year and a half is still pretty small. I worry much more about a variant we have not seen yet in the future but we should be much better prepared for that if and when it comes.
There were several posters on the TC who claimed the got it multiple time as far back as last fall.
The one marked difference we can confirm at this juncture is that delta seems to affect the young at much higher rate than the original strain. Of the 125,000 cases last week over 10,000 were children under the age of 12.
Vaccine protection is corollary to the strength of the immune system and individuals who are immunocompromised will be at greater risk for breakthrough infections. There are so many factors affecting immune status that causation can be difficult to ascertain. Nearly every comorbidity in existence has some effect on the immune system all of which have a variable affect on vaccination strength.
The duration of antibodies post infection is as of yet, uncertain but the best data we currently have indicates protection starts to drop off anywhere from 3-9 months post infection. Similarly, there are some studies and data indicating vaccination protection may start to subside anywhere from 9-12 months post vaccination, which could require an annual booster. However, none of the aforementioned has reached a state of scientific consensus with analysis and peer review ongoing.
The deaths are terrible and feel for anyone who lost a close one. On an anuualized basis though, it is less than .25 of 1% of the U.S. population. By comparison, almost 3 million have died of other causes during the same time. It could be much worse and that is the future variant I am really concerned about.
The Democrat says 100 in hospital. That's still statistically low considering the metro area of a few counties has what - over 400,000 people? But it's also the highest number they've had since this started a year ago.
^^^^^This. Do what you can and be smart. And then live your life.
If the death rate remains low perhaps this is our new normal. The 9,000+ hospitalized (more that 4x among ago) is not a promising indicator IMO.
Are you in the health or science field? Or just a person who's following the info trail? (Like me)
Medical sales. But I am just following the info trail like most everyone else.
As the parent of a 5 year old starting kindergarten next week, my anxiety level is thru the roof
Florida breaks record for COVID-19 hospitalizations
A day after it recorded the most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic, Florida on Sunday broke a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available. The Sunshine State had 10,207 people hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 cases...news.yahoo.com
“In the past week, Florida has averaged 1,525 adult hospitalizations a day, and 35 daily pediatric hospitalizations. Both are the highest per capita rate in the nation, according to Jason Salemi, an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of South Florida.”
Small world. My 5 year old starts the 23rd. He is my focus when it comes to the virus and will be until we can get him vaxed.
per florida dept of health stats between the reporting period of 7/23 and 7/30 there were 409 COVID deaths.Florida breaks record for COVID-19 hospitalizations
A day after it recorded the most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic, Florida on Sunday broke a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available. The Sunshine State had 10,207 people hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 cases...
“In the past week, Florida has averaged 1,525 adult hospitalizations a day, and 35 daily pediatric hospitalizations. Both are the highest per capita rate in the nation, according to Jason Salemi, an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of South Florida.”
Same
The latest CDC breakthrough cases report just was published on their site.
Don't know if this helps, but zero healthy 12 and unders have died from Covid in US.
www.medpagetoday.com
Don't know if this helps, but zero healthy 12 and unders have died from Covid in US.
Opinion | Think Twice Before Giving the COVID Vax to Healthy Kids
Based on the data to date, there's no compelling case for it right now
Author is a John Hopkins MD and the editor in chief of medpage today a large website that accumulates medical studies.
www.nbcnews.com
just to concur, in florida seven children total under 16 have died. none were under 12. zero under 16 have died recently.Don't know if this helps, but zero healthy 12 and unders have died from Covid in US.
Opinion | Think Twice Before Giving the COVID Vax to Healthy Kids
Based on the data to date, there's no compelling case for it right now
Author is a John Hopkins MD and the editor in chief of medpage today a large website that accumulates medical studies.
