Hurricane Harvey
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Yeah, the Ticket up here is slamming them for that. Not a good decision.
Thanks for the link Runk, just sent some money to the Red Cross.
Thanks for the link Runk, just sent some money to the Red Cross.
Everything is bigger in Texas. Including the jackasses.
Seems like you omitted the fact that Texas was going to treat it as a home series for your Astros and give them the proceeds. You also left out the part about wanting to avoid a 16 day, 4 city swing at the very end of the season, when they'd presumably be fighting to make the playoffs. It wasn't as simple as the Rangers being horse rears.
It is always pretty hard to figure a way to kinda, sorta make a small difference. Thanks, Runk and Gary for catching my attention. Will do...
I have a cousin out in Richardson who already lost one car and is soon to lose a really nice classic that his old man left him, besides every thing else. Shoot, hang in there, TJ.
Oops, Aunt lives in Richardson, cousin is in Richmond west of Houston.
The Rangers have an overloaded home scheduled in September. If they had switched, it would have been 13 road games, not 16.A 13 game road series is normal. They still would have .500 home games in September. The Rangers said on the ticket that they didn't want to change because it was unfair to season ticket holders and those who bought tickets already. Seems like this narrative that they were going to donate money came out after the fallout. For a team that traded it's second best pitcher, the thought that they are in the hunt is laughable.
This comment has stuck with me. Are there really cities, planned or otherwise, ready to handle 4 feet of rain?
I chose a home at about 120' above sea level, on a hill that tops around 160'. Closest lake is something like 55' ASL, and less than half a mile away. It's hard for me to fathom anything but biblical flooding getting in my door.
( It will definitely be the neighbors tree through my roof. )
I'd like to see a topographical map of how it's estimated Tallahassee would get chopped up with 4 feet of rain tho...
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ANEYOSHI, Japan — The stone tablet has stood on this forested hillside since before they were born, but the villagers have faithfully obeyed the stark warning carved on its weathered face: “Do not build your homes below this point!”
With four feet plus of rain, if you are on a slab, you could be at risk at any elevation. It is not just overtopping lakes and creeks.
One of the group's members in a Facebook post that has since been deleted said that looters decided to pose as people needing help and attempted to overtake the group's boats. The group said shots were fired at the boats during the incident.
"Clyde and the other team members and teams are all safe," the group said on Facebook. "I repeat, they are all safe."
The group believes the looters may have not wanted it to perform rescues. The group also said it is currently "on stand-down" pending a new strategic plan.
Cajun Navy member Clyde Cain told CNN that one of the group's boats broke down, and while the crew sought shelter in a delivery truck, people tried to steal the inoperable boat.
"They're making it difficult for us to rescue them," he said. "You have people rushing the boat. Everyone wants to get in at the same time. They're panicking. Water is rising."
Cain spoke about the apparent incident with the looters.
"We have boats being shot at if we're not picking everybody up. We're having to pull out for a minute. We're dropping an air boat right now to go rescue a couple of our boats that broke, and they're kind of under attack," he said.
"Clyde and the other team members and teams are all safe," the group said on Facebook. "I repeat, they are all safe."
The group believes the looters may have not wanted it to perform rescues. The group also said it is currently "on stand-down" pending a new strategic plan.
Cajun Navy member Clyde Cain told CNN that one of the group's boats broke down, and while the crew sought shelter in a delivery truck, people tried to steal the inoperable boat.
"They're making it difficult for us to rescue them," he said. "You have people rushing the boat. Everyone wants to get in at the same time. They're panicking. Water is rising."
Cain spoke about the apparent incident with the looters.
"We have boats being shot at if we're not picking everybody up. We're having to pull out for a minute. We're dropping an air boat right now to go rescue a couple of our boats that broke, and they're kind of under attack," he said.
Bad characters are everywhere...Houston certainly doesn't have a corner of that market. Events like this bring out the best and worst in us, and we'll hear a lot of examples of both in the coming days.
You'll also hear a lot about what our government officials should have done to prepare for this disaster, and there are always lessons to be learned, but you also have to ask yourself why so many people, rich and poor, continue to put themselves in harm's way yet want to blame somebody else for their problems. The creeks and bayous that are causing most of the problems in Houston have been flooding for a very long time, yet people continue to buy and rent in the same places that have been under water several times in the last twenty years.
We were living along Buffalo Bayou close to town when Allison hit in 2001, and the pictures we're seeing this week show the same places going through the same thing they did then. I don't know how you prevent people from making this mistake, just like I don't know how to prevent people from buying houses built on sand dunes at the beach.
You'll also hear a lot about what our government officials should have done to prepare for this disaster, and there are always lessons to be learned, but you also have to ask yourself why so many people, rich and poor, continue to put themselves in harm's way yet want to blame somebody else for their problems. The creeks and bayous that are causing most of the problems in Houston have been flooding for a very long time, yet people continue to buy and rent in the same places that have been under water several times in the last twenty years.
We were living along Buffalo Bayou close to town when Allison hit in 2001, and the pictures we're seeing this week show the same places going through the same thing they did then. I don't know how you prevent people from making this mistake, just like I don't know how to prevent people from buying houses built on sand dunes at the beach.
I told you there would be animals on the move...
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Good to hear from you, Bobcat. I was searching the thread to see if you had posted in it. Take care.
1 ) In flat areas at higher elevations, with not much in the way of drainage (even at top of hills)water will not percolate downward through the saturated soil and will pond. Basically the shallow surficial water table typical of Houston (and Florida) rises to the surface. So many people are going experience flooding that way as their yard becomes full of 2-4 feet of water that gets higher than their slab and gets into the house.
2) People on a slope side of hill above danger of ponds/creeks floodwater can have problem where surface water collects on upside of house and rises to point it breaches house.
I think I'm safe from that in this area.
Did some things to improve drainage on the front (highest) side of the property around the house. Drains on the property feed straight into a open storm sewer on back edge that feeds downhill into a retention pond. That has an overflow as well setup to feed downhill to Lake Lafayette. Four feet of rain would probably top it. Hope I don't get to see it.
The Addicks Reservoir just breached the levee on the West side and a whole lot of houses are going to flood... as of 8:00 this morning 33.16" of rain has fallen directly into the reservoir.
Here is an interactive map that shows the rainfall totals for any station in Harris County. The numbers shown are for the last 24 hours. Pick any station and click "more information" and at the top change the Last from 24 hours to 7 days and you will get the total for the whole event.
https://www.harriscountyfws.org/
https://www.harriscountyfws.org/
Yep this is the Bayou nearest to me. How no water has gotten into my townhome is quite honestly a miracle. Guess the drainage on my street in the Galleria area is better than most. We're running on close to 60 hours of Buffalo Bayou being over the Top of Bank now.
Cool map. The all time record rainfall from one tropical system like this is 48 inches. Looks like that record is being broke today.
The Addicks Reservoir just breached the levee on the West side and a whole lot of houses are going to flood... as of 8:00 this morning 33.16" of rain has fallen directly into the reservoir.
As a point of reference, Addicks is roughly 15 miles west of Houston proper, north of Katy.
Colorado, Fiji, Bobcat - this would funnel down to the Beltway and in to the city, no?
Well my houses is on 4 ft of stilts and is on ground about a ft above the lake in normal times so I'd be fine.
And keep in mind that it's not like it rains 36 inches and then it stays there with 36 inches of water. Underneath all of our feet are nearly endless caverns that can hold vast amounts of water. It doesn't drain directly down quickly because of the ground especially clay and stone in the soil so like a coffee filter if too much gets added at once it can start to stack up. Then in addition to that there's the normal drainage pathways like rivers and creeks to move the standing water away from where it rained to other locations before some of it eventually reaches the ocean.
Allegedly Orlando can absorb two inches of rain per hour for the first couple of hours and then can handle an inch of rain per hour after that. During hurricanes you frequently get 4-5 inches an hour so it does start to stack up and you can get a foot or so of flooding but it usually goes away just fine. The cities usually destroyed by flooding in hurricanes are not by the rain but storm surge from the ocean. Which Houston shouldn't be affected by as far as I know. They're getting swamped solely by the rain as far as I know.
The problem with Houston is that by destroying their wetlands and paving over dry or mostly dry creek and river beds there is no "flow off" drainage and by not having codes for adequate drainage fields they turned Houston into a giant concrete parking lot with little green spaces compared to regulated cities. So it doesn't drain quickly, I saw someone claim it was a half an inch an hour to even just a quarter inch an hour for Houston's drain rate.
So the news this morning is that the coast guard is halting rescues and evacuations by boats (some by the Cajun Navy) as looters are posing and those in need of rescue then firing on the those operating the boats in an attempt to... boatjack them.
Never ceases to amaze me how people can attempt to take advantage of these situations; fake relief donation campaigns, looting, and now boatjacking.
This image was captured during one of the attempted boatjackings:
You'd think the rescuers would recognize what's about the happen before they get within range of the blunderbusses.
My concern with being 1 ft above the lake is that the lake is going to get everyone else's runoff.
I would think 1 ft above the water level on 4 ft stilts would be really sketchy if 4 ft of rain came.
Brilliant. Because the highly-paid responders always show up toting huge amount of cash and expensive jewelry.
I think it was more "we want this boat so we can go pillage evacuated homes" instead of "we demand your booty."
Heard today that they now think 25 trillion gallons of water will fall on Texas which would equal rainfall over the entire United States of almost 0.4 inches.
I think it would drain into Buffalo Bayou, which flows through downtown into the ship channel. Ft. Bend County is in really bad shape because of the Brazos.
Yeah but Tally drains pretty well unlike Houston. So 4 ft of rain wouldn't be 4 ft of water. More like a two ft or so. The last hurricane that came through didn't even cause the lake behind me to raise much more than a couple of inches. It certainly came nowhere near the stilts.
This image was captured during one of the attempted boatjackings:
You'd think the rescuers would recognize what's about the happen before they get within range of the blunderbusses.
Andrew Jackson is a famous swashbuckler who is doing an amazing job and I think we're going to get him recognised more and more.
On that note, there's supposedly a canyon even wider and deeper than the Grand Canyon not too far below the surface of Hernando County in Florida especially near Weeki Wachee. It's got too much water and the pressure is too much to know 100% for sure but that's what scientists claimed a couple of years ago.
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