Oh and you can definitely grow satsumas throughout all of Florida as they even grow in Louisiana and Texas just fine.
Key Lime Pie???
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Oh and here's another tip I picked up for both real homecooked banana pudding (I roast the bananas and use sour cream) and all kinds of curd and cream pies, use chess cookies in place of Nilla wafers or graham crackers. They're pricier but far tastier.
Your post reminded me of old Florida Sour Orange Pies.
Greg Baker, owner of Tampa's Refinery restaurant and Fodder & Shine restaurant, writes about Sour Orange Pie here:
http://gardenandgun.com/blog/greg-bakers-encyclopedia-florida-food
Recipe here
http://www.authenticflorida.com/authentic-living/cuisine/best-ever-sour-orange-pie/
So since you mentioned flan, my wife made one for the most recent Cinco de Mayo that was hands down better than any I've had at a restaurant or made by someone else.
She used this basic recipe
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/44497/...ch result&referringContentType=search results
And then added about two tablespoons of Kahlua to the caramel after it had already liquified and was "done" (so don't add Kahlua when you're first adding the crystallised sugar) and she added two teaspoons of instant cafe bustello Expresso crystals to the flan mixture before cooking it.
It had an amazing texture and perfect sweet but not too sweet coffee and caramel flavor.
The only thing I might try next time is keeping my wife's alterations and adding a teaspoon or so of cocoa powder and a splash of cinnamon and cayenne to give it a Mexican chocolate flavor to the coffee.
Either way this recipe is great. You might have to cook it longer than the recipe calls for depending on the shape of what you use to cook the flan in.
should be yellow not green.
Most of time when I see a restaurant offering key lime pie it's green and it usually has a little green lime slice in the middle for garnish. Drives me crazy.
Costco Key Lime Pies gives Publix a run for their money. Tried one for the first time last week.
You could probably simply substitute in Seville or satsuma juice into your favorite key lime pie recipe and get good results. Something else that works well if you have access to a lot of kumquats is to juice the kumquats (which are ridiculously sour in the juice, oddly it's the skin that's sweet unlike most citrus) and save some slices of the skin to place on top of the pie after the curd has set.
I used to date a girl from Lafayette. Her parents grew satsumas there. She used to bring bags of them back after she'd visited them. I don't have very fond memories of the girl, but those oranges were some of the best citrus (temple oranges are the very best, IMO) I've ever tasted. Incredibly easy to peel.
I bought a red lime tree last year that's a hybrid of a mandarin orange and a lemon mainly because I really liked the look of the fruit. There were a couple of pieces of fruit already on it that I let ripen. It had that sour orange tasting fruit. Now I'm really looking forward to this year's crop.
I bought a red lime tree last year that's a hybrid of a mandarin orange and a lemon mainly because I really liked the look of the fruit. There were a couple of pieces of fruit already on it that I let ripen. It had that sour orange tasting fruit. Now I'm really looking forward to this year's crop.
That's really cool! I can honestly say I've never seen that.
The tree is loaded with blooms and tiny limes right now. Don't know how may will hang on. I'll get some to you on one of your trips through DFS later this summer/fall.
Great! I'm definitely intrigued to try it especially since I've never seen them sold before.
I found a place in S Miami (Norman Brothers) and another in Homestead (Robert is Here) that have real Key Limes. I am waiting to hear back if they have them in stock and if they will ship some to Tampa.
Update - Norman Brothers has them but no shipping.
Update - Norman Brothers has them but no shipping.
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I heard back from Robert is Here. They will ship Key Limes to Tampa. I assume this includes anywhere in the state of Florida. I don't know if they will ship across state lines.
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I can't recall where but I read an article this week talking about not using Mexican key limes in your pies because they are too bitter. They suggest that if you can't find a real key lime just use Persian limes. Said there are no more commercial key lime groves in FL.
Yep, the first time I returned home from Peru I tried to make ceviche with the standard (Mexican) limes from Publix.... was not good, not even a comparison. Then tried it several years later with key limes, BIG improvement.
Same advise goes for Pisco Sours!!
Speaking of key limes, I heard a song yesterday called "Key Lime Pie" by Kenny Chesney. What a con that guy has going.
New article and updated recipe on Sour Orange Pie. The crust is made with saltines.
http://gardenandgun.com/article/summer-slices-sour-orange-pie
http://gardenandgun.com/article/summer-slices-sour-orange-pie
If the new red lime tree (mandarin orange and lemon hybrid) holds on to even half the fruit it has on it now, I'll have enough to share with both you and Tribe. Now I'm really curious about what a pie made with the juice will taste like.
Update - Best Key Lime Pie lists for Keys and Miami
Keys
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/restaurants/best-key-lime-pies-in-the-florida-keys-9349964
Miami
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/restaurants/miamis-ten-best-key-lime-pies-9256624
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Keys
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/restaurants/best-key-lime-pies-in-the-florida-keys-9349964
Miami
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/restaurants/miamis-ten-best-key-lime-pies-9256624
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A few years back I tried the special slice dipped in Belgian chocolate at #5, Kermit's in Key West . It was heavenly.
Move over Miracle on Ice, THIS is the now biggest upset in the history of the world. Someone actually posted something that tribe knows nothing about.
I can't speak for the rest of the Miami list as I spend as little time in Miami as I can. But...Joe's Stone Crab at #1 is either a horrible joke or I feel for how bad Miami needs a quality key lime pie. I had it once about a year or so ago on the same trip my wife and I purposefully did our own taste test tour of the Keys alleged best key lime pies. We split one slice for lunch, dinner and sometime a snack every day we were on the keys that trip on purpose. But I picked her up at the Miami airport after I had finished up some medical convention lectures and we stopped off at Joe's Stone Crab on the way down. And Joe's Stone Crab was utter garbage (for the key lime pie, the seafood was ridiculously overpriced for its simple prep but was tasty), by far the worst key lime pie we tried over that trip and by a wide margin. The lime curd was way too sweet and bland and the graham cracker crust was WAY too hard and three times as thick as it should be probably because graham crackers are cheaper than key lime juice.
So if Joe's is the best for Miami...that's utterly sad. I (no joke) had better key lime pie on a buffet at Leonard's Pit Barbecue in Memphis today than that POS in Miami.
Now having said that, all of the Key West and other Key pies we had on the trip were excellent. Basically if you ranked it as a 1 for the worst key lime pie you've had, straight from some commercial food freezer pies, gave a 5 for the average home cook and restaurant quality pie and a 10 for the best one on the planet, then the worst pie we had in the Keys was probably an 8 or 8.5 (keep in mind we only tried the alleged best, Im sure there's one or two terrible ones there). Meanwhile the Joe's Stone Crab version was a 4 or maybe even a 3. Not truly terrible but worse by a large margin than your average key lime pie.
As far as the pies we tried in the Keys, the two best were the one at Hogfish Cafe made by the Key West Lime Pie Company (different than Kermits) and the one housemade at Blue Heaven. I preferred the Blue Heaven version as I loved the huge amount of marshmallowy meringue with only a small sliver of super tart lime curd while my wife liked the hefty dose of tart lime curd with only a smidgeon of whipped cream at Hogfish Cafe/Key West Lime Pie Company. Other than flip flopping our favorites, my wife and I ranked the rest the same with 3) Herbies, 4) Kermit's and 5) Mrs Macs.
Oh and of COURSE the POS version at Joe's Stone Crab costs 3x the price of the far better Keys versions.
If the debate over Cuban Sandwich origins, Tampa or Key West, was not enough, here is a revelation about the crust on a Key Lime Pie. It is commonly made with graham crackers but the 1926 Mrs Fern Butters recipe, now at Midway Cafe in Islamorada, is made with pie crust. Before that, the crust was - Cuban Bread.
https://gardenandgun.com/articles/slice-key-lime-pie-history/
https://gardenandgun.com/articles/slice-key-lime-pie-history/
That's weird.
Other than a few, I don't think many dispute the sandwich's origin is Cuba not a Florida city. Other than a few.
I love Key Lime Pie. My wife makes one that is the perfect blend of sweet and tart, of course with fresh Key Lime juice.
A lady in the Tampa gardening swap group is hooking me up with two, one year old, key lime seedlings. They are offspring of a plant that was purchased years ago in the FL Keys. It produces year round in Tampa and did fine during the recent freeze.
Also, found a source for a Limequat tree.
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Also, found a source for a Limequat tree.
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I just bought a limequat at our Lowe's a couple of months ago. They still had some when I was in there last weekend.
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I love KLP. My wife makes it for me, using my mom's recipe. She tells me that its best when kept simple. When we lived in Florida had a Key Lime Tree that would produce 100s of Key Limes. Now we have to buy the stuff, and I don't think it is real Key Lime juice since the pandemic.
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