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Least favorite city you've spent at least three days in

Lol, they weren't all actually downtowns. Downtown, uptown, and I'm thinking Greenway Plaza.

Anyway, it seems like there are multiple skylines throughout the city, & they're all pretty far apart.

Ah...ya, it's pretty spread out. The skylines are Downtown, the Medical Center (south of downtown), Galleria-area (west) and the new Energy Corridor (way west). The medical center is like a city in itself, has 7 hospitals, two schools a train. I read that 25K to 30K people work there.
 
If you're in Buffalo in the winter...yuck. If cities past their glory days depress you, that can be tough...a lot of shells of the city's past industrial glory. A lot of it is not "new". If you like high end "foodie" type food...yeah, not much there.

However...Buffalo is arguably one of the best architecture cities in America...there's a lot of beauty there. There is a lot to do there when it's not winter...a tremendous amount of festivals, concerts, art, drinking, minor league baseball etc. The one thing about cold weather places, when the weather is nice, people know how to have fun. And the "common" food is the best in America...pizza, hot dogs, wings, sandwiches, etc. And not like "there's this one place"....you can get a fantastic pizza or beef on weck or wings within walking distance of almost anywhere you are. And there is a lot to do within a short drive.

Culture (theater, philharmonic, etc) and museums are above average for a city of it's size, and in general, there are a lot of benefits in terms of traffic and cultural amenities for having a small amount of people living in a city that was once much bigger/greater. That also results in the cost of living being low...probably among the lowest in the Northeast. And the people are great.

All that said, it's still got it's problems...between the weather and the economy, I could never move back, but I rarely hear that people that have spent time there have thought poorly of it.

And after all that...granted my list of 3+ day cities is probably small compared to most people...Tallahassee is probably my least favorite.

Whenever I go back to the area (and I'm sure I will, you can get rountrips from St Pete to the Buffalo/Niagara airport for $140 plus tax roundtrip through Allegiant), I'll probably spend a little more time in Buffalo. Like I said last time I was there about six months ago (also for a cheap four day Vacay courtesy of Allegiant) I only spent about half a day in Buffalo with two days in both sides of Niagara plus N-O-L and a day and a half in Toronto and the wineries around 20 bench.

But yeah, any decently sized city with great food like Buffalo has (again only ate there once at Anchor Bar so I could scratch it off my food anthropology list but I have a list of places I want to go to) and is only a couple of hours from one of America/the World's Natural Wonders can't be literally "the worst".

MY SIL and BIL are heading up there on the cheap sometime in July and I'm sure they will have a fantastic time.
 
My inner Dallasite LOVES seeing all the Houston hate!

Having spent some time there, I know that it's not really that bad, but growing up - Houston was the gray, concrete wasteland with nothing positive to contribute (other than the Geto Boys!).
 
My inner Dallasite LOVES seeing all the Houston hate!

Having spent some time there, I know that it's not really that bad, but growing up - Houston was the gray, concrete wasteland with nothing positive to contribute (other than the Geto Boys!).

Better watch yourself or Wes Hightower and his net shirt is going to kick you 214 butt

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Better watch yourself or Wes Hightower and his net shirt is going to kick you 214 butt

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Ha! I got nostalgic and looked up the Urban Cowboy Wiki page. It included this piece of information:

"While filming Urban Cowboy, John Travolta had a private corner at the Westheimer Road location of the Ninfa's restaurant in Houston."

I loved me some Ninfa's growing up, so I consider this to be a superior movie star perk.
 
Ha! I got nostalgic and looked up the Urban Cowboy Wiki page. It included this piece of information:

"While filming Urban Cowboy, John Travolta had a private corner at the Westheimer Road location of the Ninfa's restaurant in Houston."

I loved me some Ninfa's growing up, so I consider this to be a superior movie star perk.

In 2002-2003, I represented Sherwood Cryer in a case. He started Gilley's with Mickey and had a long history in Pasadena. He owned an ice house off 225 in Pasadena/Deer Park before he died. Had a mechanical bull and a bunch of old Gilley t-shirts. Used to go up there and drink Lone Star and listen to his stories. Funny guy....crooked as heck, and probably was the one that burned Gilley's down, but funny guy.
 
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Lol, they weren't all actually downtowns. Downtown, uptown, and I'm thinking Greenway Plaza.

Anyway, it seems like there are multiple skylines throughout the city, & they're all pretty far apart.

A lot of cities have what seem like multiple skylines. Atlanta & Dallas are two others that I can think of.
 
I spent 4 days in Newark. Did not enjoy. Granted, all I saw was the airport, the train and the inside of my classroom, but yikes.

I did take a train into Manhattan one night, so that proximity was kinda neat.
 
Whenever I go back to the area (and I'm sure I will, you can get rountrips from St Pete to the Buffalo/Niagara airport for $140 plus tax roundtrip through Allegiant), I'll probably spend a little more time in Buffalo. Like I said last time I was there about six months ago (also for a cheap four day Vacay courtesy of Allegiant) I only spent about half a day in Buffalo with two days in both sides of Niagara plus N-O-L and a day and a half in Toronto and the wineries around 20 bench.

But yeah, any decently sized city with great food like Buffalo has (again only ate there once at Anchor Bar so I could scratch it off my food anthropology list but I have a list of places I want to go to) and is only a couple of hours from one of America/the World's Natural Wonders can't be literally "the worst".

MY SIL and BIL are heading up there on the cheap sometime in July and I'm sure they will have a fantastic time.

That's a good time to be there, although it will probably be pretty warm and humid. If you ever head up there and can plan it around the Allentown Art Festival or any other number of lesser festivals, that would be best. There's a couple Andrew Lloyd Wright homes up there to tour and some Olmstead parks. A lot of architecture downtown, but not much else. Last time up I toured a Wright home on the lake that had fallen totally into disrepair and is being restored. I enjoyed it, but not for everyone's interests.

Save this away somewhere for whenever you are in town, because I know how you operate. I need to give you one word of warning about Beef on Weck. When you look for the "best beef on weck" you're going to hear Schabl's in West Seneca. And it looks the part. But by and large, their beef on weck sucks and is highly overrated. Make the trip out to Swistons Beef & Keg instead, on the Erie Canal in North Tonawanda. Dank, dark bar with only two food items on the menu...beef on weck and chili. And complimentary stale popcorn. The atmosphere is good, beer is cold, and the beef on weck is fantastic.

Most of Buffalo's signature food items are great almost everywhere. It's definitely worth going for the Anchor Bar for wings because of the history, or La Nova for pizza with it's mob history. But honestly, pick any pizza place or bar, and you'll have to get pretty unlucky to get something less than excellent. There are a few dogs here or there, but most places serve those items almost indistinguishable from the "famous" places.

But beef on weck...that's different. There is a lot of bad beef on weck out there. Everyone thinks they need it on the menu, but honestly, it's not that easy to do right. Roast beef doesn't stay fresh that long, and weck rolls only last about six hours before they start to go bad because the salt melts. There's a good chance you'll be getting some sliced Boar's Head microwaved and served on a warmed up month-old weck roll they pulled out of the freezer. Every neighborhood or area probably has their own great place, but they've also got dozens of bad ones. Unless you get a personal recommendation from someone up there, I can vouch for Swistons for sure, awesome combination of beef and atmosphere. If you can take a pass on the atmosphere, Charlie the Butcher will give you a reliable sandwich.

For the other stuff...wings, pizza, char-grilled hot dogs, texas hots, greek food, polish, italian etc...if it looks good (especially if it is old and hole in-the-wall-y), it probably is. Although I would be happy to give recommendations for anything.
 
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That's a good time to be there, although it will probably be pretty warm and humid. If you ever head up there and can plan it around the Allentown Art Festival or any other number of lesser festivals, that would be best. There's a couple Andrew Lloyd Wright homes up there to tour and some Olmstead parks. A lot of architecture downtown, but not much else. Last time up I toured a Wright home on the lake that had fallen totally into disrepair and is being restored. I enjoyed it, but not for everyone's interests.

Save this away somewhere for whenever you are in town, because I know how you operate. I need to give you one word of warning about Beef on Weck. When you look for the "best beef on weck" you're going to hear Schabl's in West Seneca. And it looks the part. But by and large, their beef on weck sucks and is highly overrated. Make the trip out to Swistons Beef & Keg instead, on the Erie Canal in North Tonawanda. Dank, dark bar with only two food items on the menu...beef on weck and chili. And complimentary stale popcorn. The atmosphere is good, beer is cold, and the beef on weck is fantastic.

Most of Buffalo's signature food items are great almost everywhere. It's definitely worth going for the Anchor Bar for wings because of the history, or La Nova for pizza with it's mob history. But honestly, pick any pizza place or bar, and you'll have to get pretty unlucky to get something less than excellent. There are a few dogs here or there, but most places serve those items almost indistinguishable from the "famous" places.

But beef on weck...that's different. There is a lot of bad beef on weck out there. Everyone thinks they need it on the menu, but honestly, it's not that easy to do right. Roast beef doesn't stay fresh that long, and weck rolls only last about six hours before they start to go bad because the salt melts. There's a good chance you'll be getting some sliced Boar's Head microwaved and served on a warmed up month-old weck roll they pulled out of the freezer. Every neighborhood or area probably has their own great place, but they've also got dozens of bad ones. Unless you get a personal recommendation from someone up there, I can vouch for Swistons for sure, awesome combination of beef and atmosphere. If you can take a pass on the atmosphere, Charlie the Butcher will give you a reliable sandwich.

For the other stuff...wings, pizza, char-grilled hot dogs, texas hots, greek food, polish, italian etc...if it looks good (especially if it is old and hole in-the-wall-y), it probably is. Although I would be happy to give recommendations for anything.

Thanks! I sent this to my SIL and BIL and will save it for my own trip whether this year or the next
 
Kingsville, TX. Hotter than fire, atomic wasteland landscape, and the only place I've lived where I saw a tumbleweed blow across the road.

They had a Whataburger though, so there was some refuge. Texas A & I Javelinas were a pretty good football team to watch. Other than that, hell.
 
Outside the US Tula, Mexico. Total hellhole, and not because its controlled by cartels and the like. Just a really crappy place... in a large valley just north of Mexico City that retains all of that "great" city's smog. Not that it needs any help, it also has one of the largest refineries in Mexico along with several other heavily polluting industrial sites.

The river that runs through town can literally be seen "sudsing" most of the time. The food wasn't that great there either... I prefer the cuisine in northern Mexico much more. And the women there for the most part were... uggggghhhh!


In the US, its Gainesville and I don't care whether my university bias plays into this or not. Hog town is awful, I would almost rather live in Tula.
 
I saw the mention of Rochester, NY, and could relate somewhat. I used to travel there twice a year (once in the summer and once in the winter) for work, and their winters are indeed quite brutal, but it's not as bad as Erie, Pa - I had to spend several days there (twice, about two weeks apart) for work one winter and that place was just depressing and bleak as all get-out.
 
Panama City by a wide margin. It's a total dump and I loathe anytime I have to go there. Sorry locals.

For major cities though, probably Miami.
Atlanta's not all that great either.

Miami with a bullet. I hate PC also and I grew up there, I like Panama City Beach, 30A and Destins ok. I would love Destin if it wasn't so dang crowded. This whole area is getting crowded
 
Was just in Minneapolis and it's right up there with Memphis for the worst towns I've been in. And if it
wasn't for the BBQ and Elvis, Memphis would be as close to hell as I could imagine.
 
Everyone wants to talk about their most favorite city, I'm curious about what is everyone's least favorite city. And don't talk about cities you haven't been to or visited once for a day and left. That's not enough of a base to truly know, I mean least favorite city you know a fair amount about which I've arbitrarily said is three days.

For me the worst American city I've spent some time in is Washington DC and by a pretty wide margin. Outside of the monuments and overthetop governmental buildings it's a pretty ugly city. It's basically sitting in a humid swamp and gets more miserable than Tampa or Miami in the Summer. There's no real local cuisine unless you count the pretty bad "half smoke" or the proliferation of Ethiopian restaurants (which ARE very good). Nearby Richmond and especially Baltimore blow it out of the water on the cuisine front. And the people....gah. Somehow the melting pot of DC doesn't distill the mix of a quarter Yankees, quarter Southerners, quarter former and current military and government office staffers, and quarter tourons and come up with something uniquely good. Instead the people take on all of the worst attributes of one another getting the aggressiveness and lack of common courtesy from the Yankees and blending it with the racism and lack of compassion from the hardest right South.

Every time I go to DC I say it will be the last...until I get roped back in for a cheap flight or work and forced back in.



For me it is Evansville, Indiana. Found nothing redeeming about it. And...I travel all over the country.
 
For me it is Evansville, Indiana. Found nothing redeeming about it. And...I travel all over the country.

Since everyone's been posting their U.S. travel maps on Facebook I made mine recently. I've got everywhere east of the Mississippi except Vermont including Rhode Island, Connecticut and Delaware where almost no one purposefully travels to; I've got the entire Southwest and pacific (unless you count Idaho as Pacific), but I've got a big gaping hole that is the Midwest other than Illinois for Chicago, Missouri for St Louis and Kansas City and Ohio for the theme parks. I've never been to Michigan, Indiana, Iowa or Minnesota. My wife has been to Indiana to go to a Notre Dame game but I've never bothered to make it there.
 
Was just in Minneapolis and it's right up there with Memphis for the worst towns I've been in. And if it
wasn't for the BBQ and Elvis, Memphis would be as close to hell as I could imagine.
I'm guessing that would be a lot like Montgomery, AL? I almost listed that one.
 

-Houston.......I drive through that place as quick as I can, though there always seems to be a traffic jam slowing me down.
-Laredo, TX. Though I just spent a day conducting FAA training in this place, so can't claim the three day part. Good Lord.......Dust and cactus. Er, maybe it was Del Rio but it doesn't matter. Wouldn't care to visit either place again.
-Wichita Falls, TX..........I had fun there in my 20s and there were some good people there to be sure. Just not one of my favorite cities.

Hmm, I see a pattern here. Seems strange since my home is now in San Antonio.
 
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The thread has gone on long enough to be able to deviate from the original rules set by Tribe (as they are not cities and not three days and it is Page 3). I waited though.

Pink Mountain, BC. Transported to the wild west in the 1870's. Couldn't take a shower or think about using the water for bathing, brushing your teeth. Bottled water only. Hotel (there were only two hotels and they were for miners) had plywood laid over the muddy floors. The miners (young men/women) made a butt load of money though working 12 hour shifts until they couldn't do it anymore.

Beaver Creek, Yukon. It is right before the Border Crossing from the Yukon into Alaska. Hell no.
 
Memphis....wife and I were there this past weekend for a wedding. Granted, we didn't get to see a lot, but the downtown area is bland and has a severe lack of any sort of character. Beale St. is a dump, you have to get frisked to get on it at night and the place smells like sewage. We stayed at the Peabody, which was relatively nice, but the service was terrible and the gaggle of tourists that descend on the place to watch the Duck March make it unbearable twice each day. Been there, saw it, never need to go back.
 
I have literally zero interest in going to Graceland. Quite a few people in our group went and Elvis fans loved, non-Elvis fans could have done without. I'm not an Elvis fan, so I can't see myself having much interest. Maybe I'm wrong. If I had to go back, I would probably go to check it out, but I certainly wouldn't plan a trip back, just to see Graceland.
 
Everyone wants to talk about their most favorite city, I'm curious about what is everyone's least favorite city. And don't talk about cities you haven't been to or visited once for a day and left. That's not enough of a base to truly know, I mean least favorite city you know a fair amount about which I've arbitrarily said is three days.

For me the worst American city I've spent some time in is Washington DC and by a pretty wide margin. Outside of the monuments and overthetop governmental buildings it's a pretty ugly city. It's basically sitting in a humid swamp and gets more miserable than Tampa or Miami in the Summer. There's no real local cuisine unless you count the pretty bad "half smoke" or the proliferation of Ethiopian restaurants (which ARE very good). Nearby Richmond and especially Baltimore blow it out of the water on the cuisine front. And the people....gah. Somehow the melting pot of DC doesn't distill the mix of a quarter Yankees, quarter Southerners, quarter former and current military and government office staffers, and quarter tourons and come up with something uniquely good. Instead the people take on all of the worst attributes of one another getting the aggressiveness and lack of common courtesy from the Yankees and blending it with the racism and lack of compassion from the hardest right South.

Every time I go to DC I say it will be the last...until I get roped back in for a cheap flight or work and forced back in.


Miami is a total shart hole and I hope I never go back.
 
Evansville, IN by a wide margin. 100 miles from anything. Nothing bur corn, meth and poverty. Spent 6 months there for work, ugh.
 
Was just in Minneapolis and it's right up there with Memphis for the worst towns I've been in. And if it
wasn't for the BBQ and Elvis, Memphis would be as close to hell as I could imagine.

I used to spend a lot of time in Minneapolis and to me it's a pretty cool city. Lots of bars, restaurants, all major sports teams and a very clean city. Winters suck but the economy is pretty solid and an amazing number of corporate headquarters are located there.
 
I used to spend a lot of time in Minneapolis and to me it's a pretty cool city. Lots of bars, restaurants, all major sports teams and a very clean city. Winters suck but the economy is pretty solid and an amazing number of corporate headquarters are located there.

My thoughts on Minneapolis are similar to yours. I've only been there once but I was impressed with it. There is a ton to see and do there. I wouldn't be able to handle the winters. As you mentioned, the city is extremely clean. Funny thing is, we hit Fargo, ND on the same trip and it too was extremely clean. Not a whole lot going on there but an interesting place.
 
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