But let's make sure they can be armed without any regulation. Right?
You don’t get it, all those people with concealed weapons, who will require no training or license, will obviously be heroes and kill the bad guys before they commit these evil acts. I can’t wait to see shootouts in the street like the wild west. (Sarcasm font)
Let's not encourage political conversation.
So, those in charge should just give up and do nothing but offer thoughts and prayers?
There was once a moderator who cautioned us not to be political...
No. You can own guns and believe in better controls and background checks. Those of us with permits to carry have the required checks and training. Most would agree to better ones to keep guns out of crazies hands.
That’s you talking. Do every background check you want….and I am happy to wait 3-5-7 days (whatever) before I receive my next gun. That won’t solve the problem, but I’ve never objected to any of that. If it makes your crowd feel better, all fine. Let’s try it.
You're not breaking down your post, you're expanding it a lot. Will criminals always find a way? Maybe. But a lot of these crimes are committed by people who until that act, have never been a criminal before. Common sense laws may very well keep those people from committing their first. If you want to change or further explain your post, that's fine but don't claim for a second that what you're claiming in your second post was clear in the first.
That person wasn't me. I have said since the reset of this board that we can and should discuss current events and if politics are part of that, so be it. When it becomes hyper partisan we have an issue.
That's the opposite of what is being proposed in Florida as I'm sure you're aware.
Thank you for reiterating, again, your personal in-depth perspective on guns. I know I feel better. Thanks for sharing! I do fancy Annie Oakley. She had a great six shooter she was always toting.
Magazine size limits - It would then become magazine quantity limits. So?
Actually, they have always been there. Sure it waxes and wanes somewhat, but it you look at most metrics it has actually gone down since 1990. I preface the rest of my post under the assumption that depression/suicide/mental health issues are endemic and will remain with us.
The VT killer took 32 lives with a pair of handguns.
Because the laws being proposed are being put forth as a 100% solution to prevent them from happening which is the wrong way of going about it and it only gets active discussions after a tragedy. The proposals should be happening without it being on the heels of a tragedy and not proposed as 100% solutions and instead just common sense to reduce risk not eliminate risk.
You do realize the state of FL is doing the exact opposite of that, right?
Carrying legally, but after having had a road rage incident before, and having attended anger management classes.
Reread what I said. A. the point is to reduce these types of incidents not eliminate. Semi-automatic rifles or pistols doesn't really make any difference. B. Getting deadly guns off the streets is never going to be an easy thing to accomplish as I mentioned. No easy fixes, no way to eliminate all hand gun violence. Doing nothing is the easy way out which we have chosen.
I am not for this law.
In addition to putting restrictions, why are mandatory and increased jail time punishments not also proposed for any crimes with a gun including illegally in possession of one. Is it because the belief there would be a disparate impact to minorities having to serve more jail time due to the sentences? Shouldn't we also be looking to increase the risk for people illegally carrying and possessing weapons of doing mandatory minimum jail time. Repeat offenders even more.
Better than that I quoted it:
Interesting in that you usually hear people talk about leaving the country when a president is elected that they did not vote for. Did any of your kids listen and if so where do they plan on going?
Now flip it around and list the reasons/excuses put forth by the defenders of everything desired the NRA. Like everything else in the political realm, all sides are so entrenched that not only will they not compromise but will move farther from the center.
