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Mayweather vs Mcgregor

Agreed. Surely, if this were a straight up street fight, Mayweather gets his tail kicked quickly, even in his prime. He hasn't trained to fight and defend against kicks, grappling, elbows, etc... He's trained to do one specific thing, and that's fight technically within the rule system of boxing. Boxing has never claimed to be the preeminent fighting sport, it simply is what it is. To me, the best example is taking the world's best decathlete and putting them up against the best of one specialty. Most decathletes will get their tails beat against almost any of the specialized athletes. They're not great at any one thing, but they're ok to good at all of them. UFC has become the epitome of a decathlete. You've got to be good at a number of different fighting styles, but not really great at any one of them (That's where this has changed the most since the early days of UFC). If you take a UFC fighter and ask them to fight straight up, within the rules system of any specific fighting style they're going to lose, but the same goes in reverse. You take the best Judo fighter in the world, for example, but with no other skills and put them in a UFC fight, they're going to struggle.

Exactly. I agree on all points.
 
Anybody read that Mayweather went into a casino on Saturday and tried to place a $400k bet on himself to win in 9 by a knock out. Interesting boxing related stuff here in that boxing not being very much on the up and up.
 
To me this fight did nothing for the sport of boxing but make Floyd a boat load of cash. Everybody won in this fight except the sport of boxing. UFC can boast that their top fighter went 10 rounds with arguably one of the best boxers of all time (at least on record and hype) . CM once again made a boat load of cash and he loses no creditability since he played under the boxing rules and made it respectable. To me UFC got bragging rights and the sport of boxing got a bit of a black eye.


Disclaimer I understand that Floyd was underprepared and not in his prime. I also understand that due to CM not being a skilled boxer, Floyd more than likely did not see him as a huge threat and was far more aggressive then he normally would have been which allowed CM to get a few good hits. But all most people are going to see is that CM got better hits in then some other more elite boxers.
 
I only watched rounds 6-10, so I missed when he was doing his best. In 6 he was still being aggressive, but by 7 you could see he was getting tired. Only thing he was blocking Mayweather's punches with was his face. Maybe an MMA/boxing distinction, but he just wasn't keeping his hands up and couldn't react to dodge Mayweather's speed late.
Ref decision to stop it when he did was good. Mayweather was coming after him to make sure it didn't go to a decision.
I agree. One thing MMA fighters and fans overlook is that boxing is a cardiovascular sport. You don't just jump in the ring, pound on someone and its over in 2-3 rounds. In boxing you better have some damn stamina. And that means everything from being able to move around that ring to being able to hold up 8-10 ounce gloves for 12 rounds and not get sloppy with your defense.

By round 6 Coner's hands were basically down at his side. He was so tired he his boxing technique got very sloppy and he started getting tagged. Floyd knew this would be a problem for any MMA fighter because their fights are over in the first round or two. You get them to have to keep fighting for 5-6 rounds and they are done. They also aren't used to punching with 8-10 ounce gloves on. Floyd trains punching with 10lb weights for hours. His arms dont get tired and his punches still have power even in later rounds. By round 6 Coner was punching like a 9 year old. His punches had no power and Floyd felt that. So he just kept coming at him knowing he was exhausted.
 
To me this fight did nothing for the sport of boxing but make Floyd a boat load of cash. Everybody won in this fight except the sport of boxing. UFC can boast that their top fighter went 10 rounds with arguably one of the best boxers of all time (at least on record and hype) . CM once again made a boat load of cash and he loses no creditability since he played under the boxing rules and made it respectable. To me UFC got bragging rights and the sport of boxing got a bit of a black eye.


Disclaimer I understand that Floyd was underprepared and not in his prime. I also understand that due to CM not being a skilled boxer, Floyd more than likely did not see him as a huge threat and was far more aggressive then he normally would have been which allowed CM to get a few good hits. But all most people are going to see is that CM got better hits in then some other more elite boxers.
Your disclaimer is spot on. If Floyd was in his prime and saw McGregor more as a threat you would have seen. far more polished Floyd Mayweather. I dont know if this fight would have gone 5-6 rounds in that case because Floyd has always been such a devastating counter puncher. He would have caught McGrefor with some heavy counter punches early in that fight in his prime.
 
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From 2010...when Floyd was still "in his prime"
 
I only watched rounds 6-10, so I missed when he was doing his best. In 6 he was still being aggressive, but by 7 you could see he was getting tired. Only thing he was blocking Mayweather's punches with was his face. Maybe an MMA/boxing distinction, but he just wasn't keeping his hands up and couldn't react to dodge Mayweather's speed late.
Ref decision to stop it when he did was good. Mayweather was coming after him to make sure it didn't go to a decision.
Agree. He would have knocked McGregor out cold had they let Floyd keep tagging him like that. Those blows were starting to connect frequently McGregor could even hold his hands up to defend himself. He was basically relegated to running around the ring and Floyd chasing him punching him in the head.
 
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I was going to ask the same thing. Seems a little shortsighted or maybe something else motivated him to just focus on those 3 guys.
Forget who else I listed.

This is really about Mayweather being a worthless POS of a human.

I'm only sorry he didn't get seriously injured in this last "fight." Otherwise I have no use for him or anyone that supports him.
 
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Forget who else I listed.

This is really about Mayweather being a worthless POS of a human.

I'm only sorry he didn't get seriously injured in this last "fight." Otherwise I have no use for him or anyone that supports him.
Your hate and dislike of Floyd Mayweather because of his domestic situation 8 years ago seems just a wee bit excessive. Yes, I hate what he did and don't condone domestic violence against women in any way. But you act like there are others out there who haven't done worse. Check out the link below. Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault twice. I think one of the cases he settled in. There have been many many other athletes in many different sports but you hate Mayweather specifically because if his domestic situation almost 10 years ago.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-ro...-accusation-second-in-a-year-for-steelers-qb/
 
Your hate and dislike of Floyd Mayweather because of his domestic situation 8 years ago seems just a wee bit excessive. Yes, I hate what he did and don't condone domestic violence against women in any way. But you act like there are others out there who haven't done worse. Check out the link below. Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault twice. I think one of the cases he settled in. There have been many many other athletes in many different sports but you hate Mayweather specifically because if his domestic situation almost 10 years ago.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-ro...-accusation-second-in-a-year-for-steelers-qb/
I don't watch the NFL but if I did, I wouldn't watch Roethlisberger or have any use for his supporters either.

What's your point?

My dislike of FM is right where it should be. That others give him a pass (perhaps this describes you?) is what's unconscionable.
 
To me this fight did nothing for the sport of boxing but make Floyd a boat load of cash. Everybody won in this fight except the sport of boxing. UFC can boast that their top fighter went 10 rounds with arguably one of the best boxers of all time (at least on record and hype) . CM once again made a boat load of cash and he loses no creditability since he played under the boxing rules and made it respectable. To me UFC got bragging rights and the sport of boxing got a bit of a black eye.

Man, I don't see this at all. In who's eyes is boxing damaged? You can only lose your dignity if you have some in the first place.

These stupid sideshow things have been part of boxing literally from the beginning. This one was a little more high-profile, but stuff like this has gone on forever...see Ali-Inoki, or the night George Foreman tried to knock out four guys in one night. Or the time HBO broadcast a fight from a prison, because an inmate serving a long sentence was a contender. Every hear of Butterbean? Boxing has no shame.

Anybody that's already a boxing fan saw a non-competitive fight, saw a diminished and/or uninspired Floyd carry a guy who had no business in the ring for 10 rounds. McGregor didn't "get better hits in" by any means. People just lost their minds every time he touched him, because nobody expected anything from him. Everyone who's a fan of boxing is just happy to have this "fight" behind them.

However, the entertainment value was a little higher than some Floyd fights, thanks to McGregor's activity level, McGregor's antics, and Floyd being the offensive aggressor.

Hopefully, some casual folks that tuned in saw a moderately entertaining bout, compared to some of the others they might have tuned into in the years Floyd has been at the top. Maybe they saw that boxing, especially when there's a good live atmosphere, can be entertaining. Maybe they'll check out the Canelo-GGG fight, if that can get enough mainstream attention.

The only bad outcome would have been a snoozy 12 round hug-fest, or a first round DQ, or a stoppage on cuts, or something else that made people feel like they got nothing for their money. Which happens all the damn time.

In this case, both guys did pretty good by their sport...McG fought a smart fight that extended his time in the ring, showed activity instead of rolling over, displayed a little of his charisma, and didn't do anything highly embarrassing like getting disqualified. Mayweather showed offensive aggression he hadn't in years, carried his opponent and gave him enough to give fans their money's worth, and closed the show.

As much as the whole thing was an insane garbage-fest...this was probably as well as it could have went, other than everybody just ignoring it. It could have gone much worse in about 12 different ways.
 
Man, I don't see this at all. In who's eyes is boxing damaged? You can only lose your dignity if you have some in the first place.

These stupid sideshow things have been part of boxing literally from the beginning. This one was a little more high-profile, but stuff like this has gone on forever...see Ali-Inoki, or the night George Foreman tried to knock out four guys in one night. Or the time HBO broadcast a fight from a prison, because an inmate serving a long sentence was a contender. Every hear of Butterbean? Boxing has no shame.

Anybody that's already a boxing fan saw a non-competitive fight, saw a diminished and/or uninspired Floyd carry a guy who had no business in the ring for 10 rounds. McGregor didn't "get better hits in" by any means. People just lost their minds every time he touched him, because nobody expected anything from him. Everyone who's a fan of boxing is just happy to have this "fight" behind them.

However, the entertainment value was a little higher than some Floyd fights, thanks to McGregor's activity level, McGregor's antics, and Floyd being the offensive aggressor.

Hopefully, some casual folks that tuned in saw a moderately entertaining bout, compared to some of the others they might have tuned into in the years Floyd has been at the top. Maybe they saw that boxing, especially when there's a good live atmosphere, can be entertaining. Maybe they'll check out the Canelo-GGG fight, if that can get enough mainstream attention.

The only bad outcome would have been a snoozy 12 round hug-fest, or a first round DQ, or a stoppage on cuts, or something else that made people feel like they got nothing for their money. Which happens all the damn time.

In this case, both guys did pretty good by their sport...McG fought a smart fight that extended his time in the ring, showed activity instead of rolling over, displayed a little of his charisma, and didn't do anything highly embarrassing like getting disqualified. Mayweather showed offensive aggression he hadn't in years, carried his opponent and gave him enough to give fans their money's worth, and closed the show.

As much as the whole thing was an insane garbage-fest...this was probably as well as it could have went, other than everybody just ignoring it. It could have gone much worse in about 12 different ways.

Both guys knew they were being paid to put on a show, not to have a legitimate boxing match. That showed in not only the ridiculous hype leading up to it, but also in how they both approached it once in the ring.
 
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The only bad outcome would have been a snoozy 12 round hug-fest, or a first round DQ, or a stoppage on cuts, or something else that made people feel like they got nothing for their money. Which happens all the damn time.

::Michael Spinks squirms in his seat uncomfortably::
 
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Man, I don't see this at all. In who's eyes is boxing damaged? You can only lose your dignity if you have some in the first place.

These stupid sideshow things have been part of boxing literally from the beginning. This one was a little more high-profile, but stuff like this has gone on forever...see Ali-Inoki, or the night George Foreman tried to knock out four guys in one night. Or the time HBO broadcast a fight from a prison, because an inmate serving a long sentence was a contender. Every hear of Butterbean? Boxing has no shame.

Anybody that's already a boxing fan saw a non-competitive fight, saw a diminished and/or uninspired Floyd carry a guy who had no business in the ring for 10 rounds. McGregor didn't "get better hits in" by any means. People just lost their minds every time he touched him, because nobody expected anything from him. Everyone who's a fan of boxing is just happy to have this "fight" behind them.

However, the entertainment value was a little higher than some Floyd fights, thanks to McGregor's activity level, McGregor's antics, and Floyd being the offensive aggressor.

Hopefully, some casual folks that tuned in saw a moderately entertaining bout, compared to some of the others they might have tuned into in the years Floyd has been at the top. Maybe they saw that boxing, especially when there's a good live atmosphere, can be entertaining. Maybe they'll check out the Canelo-GGG fight, if that can get enough mainstream attention.

The only bad outcome would have been a snoozy 12 round hug-fest, or a first round DQ, or a stoppage on cuts, or something else that made people feel like they got nothing for their money. Which happens all the damn time.

In this case, both guys did pretty good by their sport...McG fought a smart fight that extended his time in the ring, showed activity instead of rolling over, displayed a little of his charisma, and didn't do anything highly embarrassing like getting disqualified. Mayweather showed offensive aggression he hadn't in years, carried his opponent and gave him enough to give fans their money's worth, and closed the show.

As much as the whole thing was an insane garbage-fest...this was probably as well as it could have went, other than everybody just ignoring it. It could have gone much worse in about 12 different ways.

After Floyd "fought" Pacman I decided to never again watch anything related to him. That decision has served me well.
 
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1st 3 that came to mind.

I don't watch the NFL. I'm sure if I did I could list a lot more.
I think the reference is that your list did not meet affirmative action standards. You should have listed also listed Roethlisberger and Peyton Manning and perhaps Aaron Hernandez to make your list more diverse on the racial front.
 
Both guys knew they were being paid to put on a show, not to have a legitimate boxing match. That showed in not only the ridiculous hype leading up to it, but also in how they both approached it once in the ring.

Yeah, they both fought that way. In the first 2-3 rounds, Floyd basically didn't throw anything. Credit McGregor for throwing. Many Floyd opponents simply don't let go, because of what they get coming back. McGregor went ahead and threw punches at least, as if he know Floyd wasn't going to return (?), instead of both guys circling around each other throwing nothing.
 
Some of you are nuts. Yes, FM is a douchebag ,but..

A, this was a boxing match because CM challenged FM to a boxing match. FM was retired and counting his money when CM started yapping about how he could beat him.
B, the fight went long because that's how FM fights. He's a 40 year old with a 50-0 record because he's a careful, defensive (boring) fighter.
Anyone that expected fireworks deserved to lose their money.
 
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