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[GeddyLee09]

I don't need to read squat, son. I'm smart enough to know what these liberals are doing.

 

[Bill From Tampa]

In my industry there is a thing called the $100 gig which was used to describe an informal engagement that was not very long and didn't take any prep. It was a $100 gig back years ago because you got a $100. It is still called a $100 gig today. Only many times it is a $75 gig.

 

[noletaire]

I, of course, support forgiving all student loans, as I don’t think that attending public college, university, professional school, or any other type of education should cost the student anything.

^^^LMAO.

 

[noletaire]

I am glad you are laughing, and I hope that your mirth reflects shared values.

I laugh when I see people live in a fantasy world; especially when its on someone else's dime.

 

[BelemNole]

I laugh when I see people live in a fantasy world; especially when its on someone else's dime.

I assume you've never left the states? Probably never left your own state.

 

[noletaire]

I assume you've never left the states? Probably never left your own state.

Been all around the world. Don't assume, son.

 

[BelemNole]

Been all around the world. Don't assume, son.

Was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

 

[noletaire]

Was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Thanks, means the world to me.
Now, go run along and cash your welfare check, son.

 

[BelemNole]

Thanks, means the world to me.
Now, go run along and cash your welfare check, son.

You mom hasn't dropped it off yet, but she's usually up late after working all night.

 

[noletaire]

You mom hasn't dropped it off yet, but she's usually up late after working all night.

LMAO. She has to work all night, along with everyone else who has to provide for all the parasites that live off other people's hard work..

 

[BelemNole]

LMAO. She has to work all night, along with everyone else who has to provide for all the parasites that live off other people's hard work..

Well, she's a trooper. And once you get promoted to register things will improve, I promise.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Y'all settle down some.

 

[BelemNole]

Countries with free higher education.

Europe

1. Norway: Tuition is not only reduced or free for citizens but also international students. Taxpayers’ money covers attendance to state universities, but the tradeoff is higher living expenses.
2. Sweden: Although previously offered to all students, their tuition is now only free to citizens and European students. There was an increase in scholarship programs to compensate.
3. Germany: Some universities have recently begun charging some tuition fees, but the majority of them still offer free education to all students, even international. They may ask for a small contribution each semester, but it is nowhere near the price of full tuition.
4. Denmark: All Danish citizens are offered scholarships and aid, but most colleges are entirely free. They offer their programs to citizens, European students, and students with certain visas.
5. Finland: Finland is a country that offers completely free education and only charges fees to non-European students that wish to take classes in English. Living expenses are not covered.
6. Austria: Not quite a tuition-free country, but very close. Tuition and school fees are very low for citizens and European students with a slight increase for non-European students.
7. Greece: Free education is available for citizens of Greece and European students; international fees are very low in comparison to regular tuition fees in other countries.
8. France: Not free, but very low. If you are native to France or Europe, you will only be paying a few hundred euros. International fees do go up to thousands per year.

South America

1. Uruguay: Education is free to all Uruguay citizens. In common South American fashion, it does not extend to European or non-European students.
2. Brazil: University-level education is free for all students, even international students. Just be prepared to take all classes in Portuguese as they do not offer English.
3. Argentina: Free education is only offered to Argentinian students and citizens; it is not available for international students.

North America

1. Panama: Free to all students, with no concern for nationality. That includes citizens, Europeans, and all international students.

Asia

1. Malaysia: Not surprisingly as free tuition is uncommon within Asia, free education is only available to Malaysian citizens.

Africa

1. Morocco: Free tuition to all citizens, but does not outreach to international students.
2. Egypt: Also, only free tuition to all citizens, but not to international students. Their programs are meant to decrease poverty within their country.
3. Kenya: Different than other African countries, they allow free education for citizens and also to international students. International students are limited to public tuition if they’re high-scoring secondary school students.

 

[SeaPA]

Thanks. I'm still not comfortable with the label monitor. Especially on this board. Hopefully we'll be able to generate more traffic soon.

Maybe you could get someone to photoshop an FSU shirt on this guy & then use it as your avatar.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Maybe you could get someone to photoshop an FSU shirt on this guy & then use it as your avatar.

@Moral

 

[seminole97]

Sounds like operator error to me.

He thought this was the Anything Butt Sports board.
Common mistake.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Maybe you could get someone to photoshop an FSU shirt on this guy & then use it as your avatar.

The new one was submitted by a poster on this board. What do you think?

 

[BelemNole]

Cool. And?

That it’s not a “fantasy world” where higher education is free - just a normal first world country.

 

[surfnole]

But, it’s not free. There are costs to doing that. Further, it is free here for our good students. It’s just we have more opportunities if you’re an f up or not particularly bright. And, even then, there are ways around racking up big debt.

Free education sounds like a grand idea. But there are entrance requirements at many of those countries that have free higher education. These include minimum gpas and test scores.

My friend studied in UK when higher ed was free and it was difficult to get into the University and be accepted. But he's very smart.

On the other hand his high school education was equivalent to a college degree in the USA. Most students in the USA could not hack that rigorous demand.

Additionally that free education does not include living expenses which far exceeds cost of tuition at FSU for example.

There's still plenty of ways to get a cheap education in the USA without going into massive debt. For example live at home and go to Junior college.

My friend's dad put himself through med school by working at a shoe store. Another doctor I met recently had a golf course worked in the steel mills in Pittsburgh to pay for his education. Unfortunately student loans increased the cost of education far higher than the rate of inflation and it's much more difficult to pay your way through college by working.

And like free medicine in places like the UK, rationing is a result.

 

[BelemNole]

Free education sounds like a grand idea. But there are entrance requirements at many of those countries that have free higher education. These include minimum gpas and test scores.

My friend studied in UK when higher ed was free and it was difficult to get into the University and be accepted. But he's very smart.

On the other hand his high school education was equivalent to a college degree in the USA. Most students in the USA could not hack that rigorous demand.

Additionally that free education does not include living expenses which far exceeds cost of tuition at FSU for example.

There's still plenty of ways to get a cheap education in the USA without going into massive debt. For example live at home and go to Junior college.

My friend's dad put himself through med school by working at a shoe store. Another doctor I met recently had a golf course worked in the steel mills in Pittsburgh to pay for his education. Unfortunately student loans increased the cost of education far higher than the rate of inflation and it's much more difficult to pay your way through college by working.

And like free medicine in places like the UK, rationing is a result.

That’s great, except that you can’t do that anymore. The cost of higher education has risen much faster than the increase in wages.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Btw. Just an epilogue. The reason I picked 700k is that the safe withdrawal rate on that is about 30k per year. The services you want and ubi exceed that. But trying to achieve that kind of “equity” you screw everyone. It increases the number of hands and dollars vying for the same goods and services. It’s one of the reasons why socialism:communism are typically epic failures. It’s unsustainable.

it’s also why it is my opinion that progressive left voters are typically economically illiterate. Not an insult, but I do find it very frustrating. Capitalism/economic freedom is arguably the single biggest engine for human rights and general prosperity that has existed. In my opinion, the progressive left is actively working to kill it.

I can't wait to read the doctoral thesis of the right-wing voters. (See, I can through a blanket over an entire group too.)

 

[DFSNOLE]

It really wasn’t. I didn’t even direct it at this person. He didn’t identity as progressive left. I do think his ideas are economically incoherent. But, again, that’s not an insult. It’s an evaluation of what the poster put forth as an argument. If you want me not to respond to political threads, fine. This place can be like Reddit where there’s no push back on progressives are allowed. Can blissfully bask in economic ignorance.

Your back peddling now is amusing. Your initial post said "leftist" which covers more than your new stated group of the progressive left. You threw a blanket over a large group of people in an insulting manner.

 

[DFSNOLE]

I said progressive leftist. Or, I meant it. Can’t see what I wrote now since you edited it. As you know, I often write then edit to increase clarity of message. It’s not an insult to call the current progressive left economically challenged. It is a large group of people. Progressive leftism is a populist movement. As was trump’s politics. Populism is where ignorance hangs out, historically.

exactly the below:

Opinion | The Woke Left’s Primitive Economics

Zero-sum thinking was adaptive in a world of tribal conflict, but isn’t in a modern society.

www.wsj.com

Oh. You meant it. Got it. I must work on my mind reading skills.

 

[surfnole]

That’s great, except that you can’t do that anymore. The cost of higher education has risen much faster than the increase in wages.

And why is that? Why has the cost of education risen more than the cost of just about anything compared to inflation?

 

[surfnole]

"How College Prices Ballooned Over 40 Years
In 1980, the price to attend a four-year college full-time was $10,231 annually—including tuition, fees, room and board, and adjusted for inflation—according to the National Center for Education Statistics. By 2019-20, the total price increased to $28,775. That’s a 180% increase."

. Reasons listed in the article.
. One factor is less state funding. To make college nearly free provide more State funding for tuition.
. Side note MIT offers free college classes but you don't get college credit. Other reputable universities such as Purdue offer online degrees for very cheap. There are alternatives including community colleges.
. Three reasons listed.
1. Colleges Provide More Student Support Services
2. Changes in State and Local Funding
3. Overall Increase in Costs for Service Industries Like Education

College Tuition Inflation: Compare The Cost Of College Over Time

There’s no question that compared to previous generations, colleges are charging today’s students more for higher education. Between 1980 and 2020, the average price of tuition, fees, and room and board for an undergraduate degree increased 169%, according to a recent report from the Georgetown Univ

www.forbes.com