Not CO2?

[trunole1]

What predictions for the future by the "Chicken Little's" have ever happened?

Some just live to be in fear of the future. What a miserable way to live, IMHO

It is always the fault of mankind and Science will always save the day, lol

That being said there are ways to care for the environment that make sense and do work.

 

[GeddyLee09]

Would it really matter? No, because a few months down the road one of threads will pop up with the same posters making the same uneducated, since I guess ignorant is an insult now,, illogical arguments. Today's Ocean Acidification is faster than in the past 300 MILLION years....yes, that was BEFORE the dinosaurs

Oceans Acidifying Faster Today Than in Past 300 Million Years

Few parallels for today's rapid ocean changes in geologic record

www.nsf.gov

The question wasn't really for you but ill bite.

A greater extinction of tropical species has led some scientists to question whether global warming rather than ocean acidification was the main killer at this time.

This study finds that the most notorious of all extinctions, the one that ended the Age of Dinosaurs with a falling asteroid 65 million years ago, may not have been associated with ocean acidification.

The asteroid impact in present-day Mexico 65 million years ago released toxic gases and possibly set off fires that sent surges of carbon into the air.

Though many species of plankton went extinct, coral reefs and benthic foraminifera survived.

In lab experiments, scientists have tried to simulate modern ocean acidification, but the number of variables currently at play--high carbon dioxide and warmer temperatures, and reduced ocean pH and dissolved oxygen levels--make predictions difficult.

So, is it man-made or natural? It happened before due to natural events so how do we know this now or 12 years ago? In this case they think something might happen by the year 2100 but can't really say for sure. I'm not saying it isn't happening or won't happen but how do we know these are not natural cycles and how much is man-made vs nature?

 

[noletaire]

Would it really matter?

I guess ignorant is an insult now,

Doesn't bother me at all.... hell, Everything is an insult now, that's the new world of tolerance... but around here its only insult is if "we" call people ignorant, but if a "social justice warrior" says it, than its all good. LMFAO

Seriously, ok, let's say your science is 100% accurate, what would be the actual plan to stop this environmental apocalypse??

 

[noletaire]

I'm not saying it isn't happening or won't happen but how do we know these are not natural cycles and how much is man-made vs nature?

^^^This

 

[GeddyLee09]

^^^This

Speaking of 65 Million there is a good movie with that name starring Adam Driver. It's about earth 65 million years ago.

 

[GeddyLee09]

Doesn't bother me at all.... hell, Everything is an insult now, that's the new world of tolerance... but around here its only insult is if "we" call people ignorant, but if a "social justice warrior" says it, than its all good. LMFAO

Seriously, ok, let's say your science is 100% accurate, what would be the actual plan to stop this environmental apocalypse??

Exactly.

 

[BelemNole]

So, explain it to us all please. Throw some data out there to support your argument. Or is it more fun to join in and like posts calling people ignorant?

What is this balance you speak of in %? How close are we to the tipping point both in CO2 and Ocean acidification?

Maybe pictures can help.

 

[BelemNole]

What predictions for the future by the "Chicken Little's" have ever happened?

Some just live to be in fear of the future. What a miserable way to live, IMHO

It is always the fault of mankind and Science will always save the day, lol

That being said there are ways to care for the environment that make sense and do work.

Yeah, those climate models seem to.....well, predict the future accurately.

 

[GeddyLee09]

Maybe pictures can help.

The majority of your picture is a dotted line. Remind the dummies what that means please.

 

[BelemNole]

The majority of your picture is a dotted line. Remind the dummies what that means please.

That the values were determined by indirect measurements.
People who don't have any science understanding often think this means they are not valid.
They are the same sort of people who think Theory means 'guess'.

 

[GeddyLee09]

That the values were determined by indirect measurements.
People who don't have any science understanding often think this means they are not valid.
They are the same sort of people who think Theory means 'guess'.

My point was the indirect measurement part. Also, who are these people you refer to? The ones not agreeing with you who are obviously lacking scientific understanding?

 

[noletaire]

The ones not agreeing with you who are obviously lacking scientific understanding?

^^^^This. Probably also lacking empathy, tolerance, and a desire for equity.

 

[BrianNole777]

That the values were determined by indirect measurements.
People who don't have any science understanding often think this means they are not valid.
They are the same sort of people who think Theory means 'guess'.

You and I know that climate change is real...convincing others is going to be impossible.

Scientific Consensus - NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities (primarily the human burning of fossil fuels) have warmed Earth’s surface and its ocean basins, which in turn have continued to impact Earth’s...

science.nasa.gov

 

[BelemNole]

My point was the indirect measurement part. Also, who are these people you refer to? The ones not agreeing with you who are obviously lacking scientific understanding?

Many things are measured indirectly that no one has issues with. It seems that only topics people make political are those where it's seen as suspect.

 

[BelemNole]

^^^^This. Probably also lacking empathy, tolerance, and a desire for equity.

I'll take your word on it.

 

[DFSNOLE]

So, explain it to us all please. Throw some data out there to support your argument. Or is it more fun to join in and like posts calling people ignorant?

What is this balance you speak of in %? How close are we to the tipping point both in CO2 and Ocean acidification?

It has been explained in several of the same threads started by the OP and then supported by you and others. It, apparently, will never stop as long as the OP has access to YouTube.

 

[F4Gary]

It has been explained in several of the same threads started by the OP and then supported by you and others. It, apparently, will never stop as long as the OP has access to YouTube.

This thread started with an article from MIT.

 

[DFSNOLE]

This thread started with an article from MIT.

So? It's the same thread as a dozen others.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Doesn't bother me at all.... hell, Everything is an insult now, that's the new world of tolerance... but around here its only insult is if "we" call people ignorant, but if a "social justice warrior" says it, than its all good. LMFAO

Seriously, ok, let's say your science is 100% accurate, what would be the actual plan to stop this environmental apocalypse??

Drastically limit atmospheric CO2 emissions...build the hell out nuclear power plants, CO2 scrubbers on all fossil fuels power plants, etc. that will buy us some time to phase out the ICE

 

[billanole]

My point was the indirect measurement part. Also, who are these people you refer to? The ones not agreeing with you who are obviously lacking scientific understanding?

Wow. You just keep stepping in it.
Just who are those people, you truly wonder? They are your posse.

 

[noletaire]

Drastically limit atmospheric CO2 emissions...build the hell out nuclear power plants, CO2 scrubbers on all fossil fuels power plants, etc. that will buy us some time to phase out the ICE

It would have to be done on a global scale, right? How would we get all nations, such as those part of BRICS to go along? How would the 3rd world be able to afford the construction of power plants? and that's assuming you could somehow bring peace to worn torn areas of central Africa...

 

[GeddyLee09]

Wow. You just keep stepping in it.
Just who are those people, you truly wonder? They are your posse.

Ok got it. If you disagree with a certain viewpoint, you lack scientific understanding. If you agree with that viewpoint, you're Albert Einstein. Sounds legit.

 

[GeddyLee09]

Drastically limit atmospheric CO2 emissions...build the hell out nuclear power plants, CO2 scrubbers on all fossil fuels power plants, etc. that will buy us some time to phase out the ICE

But I thought nuclear plants were considered bad in some circles?

 

[trunole1]

It would have to be done on a global scale, right? How would we get all nations, such as those part of BRICS to go along? How would the 3rd world be able to afford the construction of power plants? and that's assuming you could somehow bring peace to worn torn areas of central Africa...

Make believe world versus Reality. This is tough on those that follow the "Chicken Little" narrative.

You and I know that climate change is real...convincing others is going to be impossible.

Scientific Consensus - NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities (primarily the human burning of fossil fuels) have warmed Earth’s surface and its ocean basins, which in turn have continued to impact Earth’s...

science.nasa.gov

So when do the 4 seasons no longer exist? Again, REAL Science is not decided by a vote. LOL

 

[trunole1]

So? It's the same thread as a dozen others.

What flavor of ice cream do you prefer?

 

[BrianNole777]

Make believe world versus Reality. This is tough on those that follow the "Chicken Little" narrative.

So when do the 4 seasons no longer exist? Again, REAL Science is not decided by a vote. LOL

REAL science is decided by scientists...and the consensus is that climate change is real.

 

[trunole1]

REAL science is decided by scientists...and the consensus is that climate change is real.

You just don't understand the methodology of Science, Stop treating it like a religion.

Climate is always changing. This is not a new phenomena.

 

[BrianNole777]

You just don't understand the methodology of Science, Stop treating it like a religion.

The science is clear that climate change is real. It's happening now because of human activity.

You are free to ignore the data.

The job of science is to inform, not convince.

 

[noletaire]

You're a scientist, a theologian, and a historian... cool.
(muffled laughter)

 

[BrianNole777]

You're a scientist, a theologian, and a historian... cool.
(muffled laughter)

I'm not a scientist which is why I rely on them for knowledge.

@fsu1jreed

 

[trunole1]

The science is clear that climate change is real. It's happening now because of human activity.

You are free to ignore the data.

The job of science is to inform, not convince.

Inform me of the % of natural CO2 versus the % of man made CO2 in the atmosphere and also the % of CO2 in the entire atmosphere of the earth.

 

[BrianNole777]

Inform me of the % of natural CO2 versus the % of man made CO2 in the atmosphere and also the % of CO2 in the entire atmosphere of the earth.

Ask the scientists at NASA that study climate change.

I'm not qualified to answer.

 

[fsu1jreed]

But I thought nuclear plants were considered bad in some circles?

Not for this treehugger, the new generation molten salt reactors don't melt down and create no waste

 

[billanole]

Maybe pictures can help.

Very cool, thanks.

 

[billanole]

Ok got it. If you disagree with a certain viewpoint you lack scientific understanding. If you agree with that viewpoint your Albert Einstein. Sounds legit.

You’re

 

[GeddyLee09]

You’re

Good catch. Thanks for stopping by. You did manage to get a like from your posse so that's good.

 

[trunole1]

Ask the scientists at NASA that study climate change.

I'm not qualified to answer.

Google not your friend?

 

[noletaire]

I'm not qualified to answer.

True, but when has that ever stopped you?

 

[GeddyLee09]

You're a scientist, a theologian, and a historian... cool.
(muffled laughter)

 

[BrianNole777]

True, but when has that ever stopped you?

With science.