Strangely doesn’t seem that long ago, but the majority of todays Nole football players weren’t even born then. I must be getting old.
Our 2001 Orange Bowl Loss to Oklahoma
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Oklahoma quarterback from 2001 is now the coach for the Tennessee volunteers. Heupel.
I splurged to buy a skybox for that game. Does disappointed sound strong enough?
Snoop not playing hurt. Richt not focused hurt. But we still should have won. 🤷♂️
Snoop not playing hurt. Richt not focused hurt. But we still should have won. 🤷♂️
I want FSU to pound them.
They can move on offense, but defense is bad. Pound them for those 3 losses. Idc score as much as you can. LFG
They can move on offense, but defense is bad. Pound them for those 3 losses. Idc score as much as you can. LFG
Under stoops, Oklahoma played for what? 4 NCs? only won it against us. Go figure.
I was miserable. We were in Dallas and had to watch it with my son and his then-fiancée who had been an OU cheerleader.
Soooo glad he didn’t marry her...
Soooo glad he didn’t marry her...
2001? I'm still bitter about the 80 and 81 bowl games. We really owe Oklahoma for quite a few games.
I’ll always appreciate Mark Richt for helping get the Noles to the top in 99. I’ll also always be annoyed with Richt for not finishing his job in 2000 before starting his new job at Georgia.
All I can remember was how many times we passed the ball out of a two wideout set...we played right into Oklahoma's strengths the entire game...almost every one of them out of ad-nauseum play-action that fooled NO ONE in the stadium. Yeah, I am still bitter. A lot. If we drop half a hundred on them it ain't enough.
That game still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. How the hell did that offense not score a point?
Couldn't trust our kicker so that affected game plan and playcalling inside the 30 plus no Snoop and Morgan drops TD in the endzone.
Everything that has been said is true, but losing the best player in the stadium in the first probably changed that game more than all the rest.
The pre-game started with a ceremony honoring Jimmy Johnson. He of course threw shade about his years with scum and how many times he beat us. It went downhill from there. I personally still blame Richt for neglecting his OC duties to take care of Georgia and Bobby for letting him do it.
Half true. Richt should have turned Bowden down and told him that he needed to focus on his new job at UGA. But how could he turn down his beloved mentor? Bowden should not have put him in that position. He should have learned from Brad Scott doing the same thing in 93. We nearly lost that game because the offense did not prepare well to face Nebraska. They won and maybe that led Bowden to not learn that lesson.
Half of that was on Bobby.
As hubby mentioned above, we were there. It was a MISERABLE night and all I could think was how different it would have been if Snoop was in the game. I hope we kick their arses to Norman and back and keep kicking them.
Also missing two RBs, Jeff Chaney was hurt on WF’s awful turf.
If you knew her you’d agree. 🐖Now, was that really necessary?
Bowden n Richt blew it. Kids were not prepared. Out coached. Period. I was there. Bothers me even today that you brought this up. high powered offense shut out. Mind boggleing
I was there. Perhaps one of my worst games….maybe only eclipsed by the home shutout at the hands of WF.
Richt was just making a huge career move that any coach would do, and we didn't need him in that game near as much as needed a damn play maker on the field, and Snoop was definitely that.
I loved Bobby more than anyone. But the painful reality is that he de facto retired long before he actually did. He had stopped calling plays and really did not have any mastery of our own offense. He was 100% dependent on Richt, and had no contingency plan in place to deal with his announcement.
Guys working deep into their 70s can create issues. We may still love them, but they are not as good or as effective as they were years earlier. Sad but true.
As has been stated over 100 times, the 'huge career move' was accepting the UGA head coaching job. Good for him! NO ONE criticizes Mark for that.
The 'bush league move' was going to work for UGA immediately, abandoning FSU, and leaving the Heisman trophy QB led and high powered FSU offense without an OC.
The result: the offense was shut out! Didn't score a single point! Our defense played lights out! And Richt turned the lights out on our offense.
Sounds swell, but not reality. Dude was making 150k at FSU. He started making 600k at Georgia — big bucks at the time — where he hoped/planned to be long-term. He had every incentive to leave, and no obligation to “stick around” to help his former employer. He actually did that ONLY as a courtesy to Bobby.
Not Mark’s fault that Bobby failed to have ANY contingency plan. Bobby knew that Mark had been sniffing head coaching jobs a few years before 2000. Love Bobby, but he dropped the ball on this one. Why not let Billy Sexton drive the bus?
This brought attention to how programs would handle losing coaches at the end of the season and before bowl games (playoffs, now). FSU showed everyone how not to do it.
Bowden supported him taking the UGA job, of course, but asked him to still come back and act as the OC. Of course Richt wanted to honor his mentor's wishes and tried to do so. But that was not a tenable situation and Bowden should not have put him in that spot. You can't blame Richt without blaming Bowden equally.
Remember, a similar thing happened in 93 with Brad Scott and it nearly cost us an NC. The offense was horrible against Nebraska in the bowl game. Worst offensive performance of the year for us, but nobody rags on Scott bc we won.
BTW, I'd love for somebody here with an old connection to ask Brad Scott what he thinks about his and Richt's situations and if, in hindsight, he thinks it should have been handled differently.
We had like twice as many yards as them: D did a great job. Similar to 2011, where the D held them to well under 300 yards….but still lost.
I was there - still is disbelief - our linebackers were in man coverage with their WR’s -
A very bad nightmare
Noles for life!!!!!
Yes, we can. Bowden wanted Richt to be OC. He knew that Mark would have a conflict, but believed Richt would make a greater effort than Richt actually made. Bowden was too polite to say that publicly.
Once you earned Bobby’s trust he relied on your word. It was this thing called loyalty.
Word had it that Bobby asked Richt at halftime what his Plan B for the offense was. Richt indicated he didn’t have one.
That’s shared blame IMO.
Word had it that Bobby asked Richt at halftime what his Plan B for the offense was. Richt indicated he didn’t have one.
That’s shared blame IMO.
Can you please expand on your thoughts and feelings about loyalty? And please share more about the shared distribution of only scoring 2 points in a friggin' Orange Bowl game! I'm quite sure and confident that several of us are very intrigued. Thanks.
Interesting. If true, it is curious why he waited until halftime to game plan with a coach known to be coaching his last game. Even up until that point Bobby was known to commandeer the headset. Trust or no trust.
All I got to say is we better take them seriously. They may be 6-6 but lot of close loses. And play much better when they have their starting qb.
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