The Deuce

[nynole1]

Hard rock was excellent in the 70s. Funk, disco, soul all dogpile.

 

[dmm5157]

The reason people like myself don't love the 70's as an era is because it was pretty gloomy subject matter. Post-Vietnam, start of cold war, gas shortages, slumping economy, etc. and I didn't love the disco era stuff either.

It's not a romantic period like the previous eras and it did give birth to new cinematic style and leap forward.

I love plenty of 70's movies, it's just not an era in time I'm very interested in.

 

[dmm5157]

Hard rock was excellent in the 70s. Funk, disco, soul all dogpile.

Yes, that it was. Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Queen, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Judas Priest, lots of big acts out of the 1970's besides disco.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Yes, that it was. Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Queen, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Judas Priest, lots of big acts out of the 1970's besides disco.

Very true. Disco started with Saturday Night Fever which didn't come out until Dec 1977. Don't link that crap to the whole decade.

 

[Nole Lou]

Very true. Disco started with Saturday Night Fever which didn't come out until Dec 1977. Don't link that crap to the whole decade.

That's absurd. Did you think they invented Disco for the movie?

Disco started at the beginning of the 70s, and the phenomenon was well underway in 73-74. Rick Dee's parody Disco Duck was released in 1975...so the trend was already mature enough for parody.

Like it or hate it, Disco absolutely is a big part of 70's music. The 70s definitely has to own Disco...much more so than punk, which they really don't get on the scene until 77.

 

[Nole Lou]

Yes, that it was. Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Queen, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Judas Priest, lots of big acts out of the 1970's besides disco.

Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and the Rolling Stones all broke in the 1960s. Yes, a lot of their music was in the 1970s but they definitely broke in the 1960s. Along with Hendrix, The Who, Yardbirds, Cream, Deep Purple, The Doors etc. who all became popular in the 1960s.

Because of the way radio formats segment things, people don't really realize about the fact that Jimi Hendrix' Foxy Lady was contemporary with "old fashioned" 1960s hits like Daydream Believer, Respect, Happy Together, etc.

No doubt there was some great hard rock made in the 1970s, but it was born and became a thing in the 1960s with some of it's most legendary bands.

I'd say the 1970s much more "owns" soft rock like The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, etc, which has been incredibly enduring and popular in it's own right.

 

[dmm5157]

Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and the Rolling Stones all broke in the 1960s. Yes, a lot of their music was in the 1970s but they definitely broke in the 1960s. Along with Hendrix, The Who, Yardbirds, Cream, Deep Purple, The Doors etc. who all became popular in the 1960s.

Because of the way radio formats segment things, people don't really realize about the fact that Jimi Hendrix' Foxy Lady was contemporary with "old fashioned" 1960s hits like Daydream Believer, Respect, Happy Together, etc.

No doubt there was some great hard rock made in the 1970s, but it was born and became a thing in the 1960s with some of it's most legendary bands.

I'd say the 1970s much more "owns" soft rock like The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, etc, which has been incredibly enduring and popular in it's own right.

I get what you're saying but If breaking defines the era, then there are a lot of bands that don't qualify from when they were made famous. Chili Peppers and No Doubt started in the 80's but didn't make it big until 90's and really contributed to the sound of the early to mid 90's.

Led Zeppelin's biggest hit (Stairway to Heaven) was released in 1971. Their work in the 70's is what defines them. I would say same with Pink Floyd, they were really known for Dark Side of the Moon in 1973 and Wish you were Here in 1975. Both bands were also active in the 80's, but they aren't really defined by their work in the 60's or 80's. Prime for both was the 70's and helped to define the sound of rock in the 70's. Transition away from poppy sound, less melodic, more brooding, trippy music.

 

[Nole Lou]

I get what you're saying but If breaking defines the era, then there are a lot of bands that don't qualify from when they were made famous. Chili Peppers and No Doubt started in the 80's but didn't make it big until 90's and really contributed to the sound of the early to mid 90's.

Led Zeppelin's biggest hit (Stairway to Heaven) was released in 1971. Their work in the 70's is what defines them. I would say same with Pink Floyd, they were really known for Dark Side of the Moon in 1973 and Wish you were Here in 1975. Both bands were also active in the 80's, but they aren't really defined by their work in the 60's or 80's. Prime for both was the 70's and helped to define the sound of rock in the 70's. Transition away from poppy sound, less melodic, more brooding, trippy music.

I don't disagree that the balance of their work came in the 1970s, particularly Pink Floyd. But mainly making the point that 60s, along with everything else it had, has a nice solid chunk of hard rock as well, more than most people realize. I specifically didn't refer to when the started but when they hit prominence.

No Doubt's debut album wasn't released until 1992. RHCP didn't crack album charts until Mother's Milk in 1990.

By contrast, Led Zeppelin had a #1 and #7 album in the 1960s. While Floyd didn't conquer the US until Dark Side, Pink Floyd had four albums in the 1960s all, top 10 records in the UK, where they were massive.

While they definitely peaked in the 1970s and had their greatest success, they were still huge in the 60s.

A good comparison to hard rock in the 1960s/70s would be rap in the 1980s/90s. The 1990s was the explosion of rap and many of it's biggest superstars and going totally mainstream, but it was absolutely present in the 1980s, and still part of the story of music in the 1980s.

We aren't really disagreeing about anything...more that I'm pointing out that I don't think people realize when they think of 60s music that it's more than Motown and the Beatles. A lot of people don't realize when you're talking about the 60s, that includes things like Whole Lotta Love, Purple Haze, White Room, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, Hello I Love You, Bad Moon Rising, etc.

I'm just being pedantic because I love the 1960s. It has always aggravated me that "oldies radio" or 1960s radio will play say, Mony Mony by Tommy James and the Shondells, or Sugar Sugar by the Archies, but they won't play Foxy Lady or Good Times Bad Times, which came out in the same year or earlier. It artificially short sells the 1960s.