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Timmeh Tebow loves Nazis

I can only imagine what sofa talk was like at the Timmie-Aaron house in gainesville.

Timmie: Hey, so does my hair look like sorta nazi but not too nazi if I comb it this way?
Aaron: Not now Timmie, I'm googling the two guys I shot outside of the club to see if they lived.
Timmie: Just call the police and ask them, they don't care.
Aaron: Good idea.
Timmie: Do you have any candles? Tony Joiner is coming over later.

That seems to me to be shockingly accurate. I’ll break out my copy of Final Draft and we should start writing the True Crimes “murders of the week” movie immediately before someone else jumps on this money train.
 
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High profile representatives (Which Timmy is) have an obligation to use their fame which they've sought after responsibly. If Timmy can't bring himself to make a small statement saying that we need to see each other as equals and denouncing Richard Spencer's remarks, then that is on him. And I'd feel the same way if any FSU player were asked to speak out about Spencer. Choosing not to means that at worst, he agrees with them, at best he values their "fandom" and his "image" more than he cares about the lives of others hurt by people like Spencer. To me that's just as bad. I understand saying you don't want to endorse a political candidate, or push for specific political causes that truly are debatable in America. But the superiority of a race over another isn't one of those debatable things.

It's quite possible that ESPN didn't run this by Timmy which just means that ESPN needs to be burned at the stake over their handling of this. But it seems more like cover and it's certainly something that Tim can speak up about now. All it takes is a simple statement that he was unfortunately unaware of the invitation but that he certainly values all lives regardless of color and would have loved the chance to give back to his university and help them draw people together when someone came to divide them.

I simply don't see why that's so difficult for people to see.

Completely false. Being famous doesn't put any more obligations a person than an average person. In fact, I think celebrity culture is way too prevalent in this country as it is, and here you are essentially asking for even more of it. We obviously just have much different views of society, which is fine. But, saying a celebrity has an obligation to speak because you decide they have such an obligation, is completely false.
 
Reading many posts in this thread helps me understand how seemingly intelligent people throw accusations around like racists, homophobe, Nazi etc. If the standard of not agreeing or have similar views than the previously mentioned then it is really easy to apply the same rules to almost anyone whether they are in public or private life. Kind of reminds me of the question "when did you stop beating your wife"
My man, it's clear to anyone who doesn't wear orange and blue glasses that this guy is either lying about his love for uf or is a nazi / nazi sympathizer.
Why else would you, when asked, say and do nothing to distance your university from the tiki torch mafia?

I suppose it's your stance that timmay was lying and feigning affection for uf all along. I guess I could see that.
 
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Completely false. Being famous doesn't put any more obligations a person than an average person. In fact, I think celebrity culture is way too prevalent in this country as it is, and here you are essentially asking for even more of it. We obviously just have much different views of society, which is fine. But, saying a celebrity has an obligation to speak because you decide they have such an obligation, is completely false.
There's no obligation. I'm not suggesting he be forced to speak, however they do need to realize that as public figures, their statements and lack of statements will always have repercussions. I'm saying his silence, and Taylor Swift's silence at refusing to comment on how the alt-right has co-opted her music as their "Official" music says something. They can certainly ignore it and hope people just stop caring, or they can make a simple comment. Their commentary will have others criticizing, praising, ignoring just as much as their silence does.
 
There's no obligation. I'm not suggesting he be forced to speak, however they do need to realize that as public figures, their statements and lack of statements will always have repercussions. I'm saying his silence, and Taylor Swift's silence at refusing to comment on how the alt-right has co-opted her music as their "Official" music says something. They can certainly ignore it and hope people just stop caring, or they can make a simple comment. Their commentary will have others criticizing, praising, ignoring just as much as their silence does.

But as soon as you acknowledge it, it becomes an even bigger story and sort of brings life to it. Making a comment by no means puts an end to things, certainly in this type of social media world, it then gets spread all over FB and twitter and many times becomes an even bigger story. The Taylor Swift story for instance, stems from a blog post from a small, relatively unknown blog. In her case, she would have been better to ignore it. But, she didn't. Her lawyers contacted the blog demanding they take it down, then the ACLU got involved, and it ended up being a much bigger story than it would have ever been before if her and her people would have ignored it. But also, people simply can't respond to every single thing said about them, it is just unrealistic.
 
This is a focused discussion on Timmay and his love for nazis and/or his curious unwillingness to defend his alma matar from said nazis.

In what manner was UF attacked?

I'm interested in the mechanics of how a speaker requests and receives permission to speak at a uni. Anyone know how that works? What I read was that UF felt they couldn't exclude him because of 1st amendment challenges. Is that because it's a public institution? Could anyone tell FSU they want to make a speech on campus and they must be accommodated?
 
In what manner was UF attacked?

I'm interested in the mechanics of how a speaker requests and receives permission to speak at a uni. Anyone know how that works? What I read was that UF felt they couldn't exclude him because of 1st amendment challenges. Is that because it's a public institution? Could anyone tell FSU they want to make a speech on campus and they must be accommodated?
At the time the fear was a repeat of Charlottesville, something Timmay apparently thought wasn't worth a few mins of his time to do his part in preventing.
Perhaps he, in his self-loathing gut, was disgusted by being a goater and was okay with his campus being overrun by marauding nazis.
Look, I'm no fan of the goaters, but even I will stand up and pick them over the nazis. Timmay apparently didn't feel the same way, I guess 3-4 years on that campus can be fairly traumatic.

As for mechanics of how to speak at a uni, great subject -- for another thread.
 
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Timmeh is asking his brother while people are upset with him for him being a Yahtzee sympathizer,
 
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The build up of stress and guilt of having to cover up a Nazi sympathizer on the team must of lead to Urban's heart condition.

"There was no heart damage," Meyer told The New York Times, referring to the night he was admitted to the hospital. "But I didn't want there to be a bad day where there were three kids sitting around wondering what to do next. It was the pattern of what I was doing and how I was doing it. It was self-destructive."



This all makes perfect sense now.....Nazi!
 
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The build up of stress and guilt of having to cover up a Nazi sympathizer on the team must of lead to Urban's heart condition.

"There was no heart damage," Meyer told The New York Times, referring to the night he was admitted to the hospital. "But I didn't want there to be a bad day where there were three kids sitting around wondering what to do next. It was the pattern of what I was doing and how I was doing it. It was self-destructive."



This all makes perfect sense now.....Nazi!
Wowza! That's a damn plot twist if there ever was one!

Have always said urbie enabled, hid, and covered up criminal behavior and malfeasance while at uf, this fits in with that.
 
"Look, I'm no fan of the goaters, but even I will stand up and pick them over the nazis."

Man, that's a tough one; I'd have to think long and hard on it. Not sure I could do even that.
 
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I didn't read the most of the thread, but I did read the beginning. So what if Tebow bowed out? The pressure for him to conform is nothing more than the thought police trying to recruit influential members to their tribe. In your job, would you become a vocal opponent of something of which you didn't agree?

Why should any celebrity, actor or sports star get involved in politics? For the most part, they are dumbasses who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

Let the politicians handle this.

Witness the excoriation and firing by the google employee who challenged PC beliefs rather than remaining silent. You can't beat the diversity department at your employer, so don't even try. https://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320
 
I just scanned the Google employee thread again, and it is spot on. But it digresses for our PC police.
 
I didn't read the most of the thread, but I did read the beginning. So what if Tebow bowed out? The pressure for him to conform is nothing more than the thought police trying to recruit influential members to their tribe. In your job, would you become a vocal opponent of something of which you didn't agree?

Why should any celebrity, actor or sports star get involved in politics? For the most part, they are dumbasses who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

Let the politicians handle this.

Witness the excoriation and firing by the google employee who challenged PC beliefs rather than remaining silent. You can't beat the diversity department at your employer, so don't even try. https://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-the-full-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320
Timmay didn't have to speak out against nazis when asked by the university he claims to love. But sometimes what you don't do speaks louder than what you do do.

This isn't 'getting involved in politics' nor is this a controversial position, there's nothing all Americans can agree on except that nazis suck. Timmay, through his ongoing silence, has led us few other options than to believe he doesn't necessarily agree with that statement.
 
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