Tuscaloosa? What?

[noleebeachboy]

Why on earth are we in Tuscaloosa on a Wednesday night for one game when we're in the thick of the ACC schedule? Who did that? And why?
0h well, Edenfield just hit a 3 run homer to tie it 4-4 in 6th.

 

[ChiefWB]

Spring break. What else should the ladies be doing?

 

[tano01]

Spring break. What else should the ladies be doing?

My kid played at a lower level and spring break was just one long road trip for them every season. They had a lot of fun.

 

[89nole]

Softball is different than baseball you play some big midweek games.

 

[Lanoles]

Two mid week games, one in Nashville and one in Tuscaloosa after the previous weekend in Atlanta. Not a bad bus ride, like the minor leagues.

 

[warriornole]

This is exactly what a program like FSU should be doing and they are having a blast on spring break!

 

[luvthenoles]

Softball is different than baseball you play some big midweek games.

I played HS then college baseball and I didn't have a single spring break that didn't include travel + ball games for the 9 days spanning spring break.

However, we had a blast during that time. Watching the NCAA tourney in hotel rooms when we weren't playing or traveling was awesome. Lots of team building and chilling w/ teammates.

 

[Donnie_Please]

Why on earth are we in Tuscaloosa on a Wednesday night for one game when we're in the thick of the ACC schedule? Who did that? And why?
0h well, Edenfield just hit a 3 run homer to tie it 4-4 in 6th.

To play a top five opponent and further raise the profile of our wonderful softball program, the players, and our coaching staff, which is the best of its kind in the nation and better than any other sport at our wonderful university? Could it be that?

 

[BriSape23]

To play a top five opponent and further raise the profile of our wonderful softball program, the players, and our coaching staff, which is the best of its kind in the nation and better than any other sport at our wonderful university? Could it be that?

This is exactly right and a great reply... love the fact that we did this on the SEC Network as well.

Regarding Softball as the best sport at FSU, Soccer says "Hold my beer..."

 

[bungman]

Winning !!!!

 

[Wjnole1]

Two mid week games, one in Nashville and one in Tuscaloosa after the previous weekend in Atlanta. Not a bad bus ride, like the minor leagues.

These girls deserve charter plane rides! Love watching them!

 

[RaleighNoleToo]

I had softball on one channel and baseball on another. I was switching back and forth, but mostly watching the softball game. Those games are fast and compelling.

Nice night to be a Seminole fan of the diamond teams.

 

[Noleaholic]

Why on earth are we in Tuscaloosa on a Wednesday night for one game when we're in the thick of the ACC schedule? Who did that? And why?
0h well, Edenfield just hit a 3 run homer to tie it 4-4 in 6th.

Maybe because they want to face a top team to help them prepare for the tournament.

 

[FarmerNole]

Why on earth are we in Tuscaloosa on a Wednesday night for one game when we're in the thick of the ACC schedule? Who did that? And why?
0h well, Edenfield just hit a 3 run homer to tie it 4-4 in 6th.

Raising their game by playing CWS contenders? Who will we play in the acc that’s better competition? That environment was off the chart last night. 6 straight wins vs Bama is an huge accomplishment.

 

[FarmerNole]

Good quote from the Bama coach last night:

"I want to thank Florida State for coming up on a midweek. It's their spring break as well and they came down here after playing in Nashville last night. If they don't come to us, this kind of atmosphere doesn't happen for college softball. It was a great game on national television and in front of 4,000 people here at Rhoads. It was just a fun night for softball that unfortunately didn't go our way. We competed really well. I thought we fought hard at the end. Our bottom of the order was awesome and the next time we are in this situation, I am confident we are going to come through."

 

[Lanoles]

FSU Softball Urgent Update


Friday's game against Boston College has been moved to Saturday due to travel issues. As a result, we will now play a doubleheader on Saturday. The first game will start at noon with the second game starting approximately 30 minutes after the conclusion of the first game. Your tickets for Saturday will be good for both games and we will allow reentry. We are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused and appreciate your understanding

 

[CarlsbadNole]

Yes it was on the sec channel, but man their announcers could not stop talking about the way they loss, attributing it to errors and mistakes when it was a three run blast was the big reason they lost.

embarrassing for sec fans

 

[FarmerNole]

Yes it was on the sec channel, but man their announcers could not stop talking about the way they loss, attributing it to errors and mistakes when it was a three run blast was the big reason they lost.

embarrassing for sec fans

At least it was important enough to be televised. What a game. I don’t take offense about their commentary. They are Uber passionate about all their sports and it’s understandable under the circumstances. If this was on the accn, I would hope our announcers would be as passionate about Fsu.

 

[cnole1]

It was great being on the sec network, if only for hearing the deflation in the broadcasters' voices after "Area 51 's" hr blast, and the constant reminder that all of Alabama 's runs were "earned " runs and ours were unearned. I would have loved to have been able to call them after the game, and ask if they saw anywhere on our 6-5 winning score, how the runs were scored. Box score yes, in tomorrow's paper. I think the play by play guy was so disappointed he was looking for any way to excuse Alabama 's team play, even trying to make it sound like we we got our runs the wrong way! The "color" lady broadcaster also had the wind taken out of her sails! It was great!!!

 

[Noles61]

Yes it was on the sec channel, but man their announcers could not stop talking about the way they loss, attributing it to errors and mistakes when it was a three run blast was the big reason they lost.

embarrassing for sec fans

apparently you didn't watch the GT series if you think last nights announcing was one sided or bad.

Personally, I thought the game, announcing, officiating, park, opposing coach and players were all top notch and complimentary of FSU. Yes, there were a couple of pro SEC comments that were eye rollers, but I've watched ACC football teams play each and listened to the announcers gush and go on and on about the SEC and there isn't an SEC team involved in the game...and they were ACC announcers.

Over all last night game was great...even more so that we beat them...6 times in a row.

 

[Noles61]

It was great being on the sec network, if only for hearing the deflation in the broadcasters' voices after "Area 51 's" hr blast, and the constant reminder that all of Alabama 's runs were "earned " runs and ours were unearned. I would have loved to have been able to call them after the game, and ask if they saw anywhere on our 6-5 winning score, how the runs were scored. Box score yes, in tomorrow's paper. I think the play by play guy was so disappointed he was looking for any way to excuse Alabama 's team play, even trying to make it sound like we we got our runs the wrong way! The "color" lady broadcaster also had the wind taken out of her sails! It was great!!!

I'll admit, that part did annoy me a bit. I'm still trying to understand how is a HR unearned. I can see perhaps if the 2 runs scored, if they were on base by error, but not the HR score itself. But I still don't get the earned/unearnd thing...at the end of the game what does it matter? We had more runs on the scoreboard and that's all that counts.

 

[jbob]

Spring break. What else should the ladies be doing?

The TC could come up with a few novel ideas, just give them a chance.

 

[jbob]

It was great being on the sec network, if only for hearing the deflation in the broadcasters' voices after "Area 51 's" hr blast, and the constant reminder that all of Alabama 's runs were "earned " runs and ours were unearned. I would have loved to have been able to call them after the game, and ask if they saw anywhere on our 6-5 winning score, how the runs were scored. Box score yes, in tomorrow's paper. I think the play by play guy was so disappointed he was looking for any way to excuse Alabama 's team play, even trying to make it sound like we we got our runs the wrong way! The "color" lady broadcaster also had the wind taken out of her sails! It was great!!!

They must have said, “unearned runs” a dozen times, suggesting that there was no way FSU was better than Buma.

 

[Nolz4lyfe]

These girls deserve charter plane rides! Love watching them!

You should pay for the charter. God knows womens sports probably don’t generate enough income to pay for the bus ride. Let’s don’t get carried away with chartered flights nonsense.

 

[kcnole63]

apparently you didn't watch the GT series if you think last nights announcing was one sided or bad.

Personally, I thought the game, announcing, officiating, park, opposing coach and players were all top notch and complimentary of FSU. Yes, there were a couple of pro SEC comments that were eye rollers, but I've watched ACC football teams play each and listened to the announcers gush and go on and on about the SEC and there isn't an SEC team involved in the game...and they were ACC announcers.

Over all last night game was great...even more so that we beat them...6 times in a row.

I agree. I thought they gave plenty of cudos to FSU. One of the female announcers was very knowledgeable about softball and our program.

 

[kcnole63]

They must have said, “unearned runs” a dozen times, suggesting that there was no way FSU was better than Buma.

Our ladies played well, but without the Bama errors, we probably don't win.

 

[Lanoles]

Couple of things, there are unforced errors where the player just misses the ball, then there are 'forced errors' where the offensive team put pressure on the defense. A hard hit shot to third, player knows she must hurry the throw home/first and either miss plays the ball or make a hurried throw. Same as throwing the ball to 2nd early because of the runner's speed and the defensive play is too slow, missed time ball. Same thing fielding a ground ball to the outfield know FSU 's runners at taking the extra base. Often this happened last night. Just think, 25% of Alabama errors so far have come against FSU. Not to mention the mental error allowing Syd to score when she was dead out at home but threw to first.

I'll admit, that part did annoy me a bit. I'm still trying to understand how is a HR unearned. I can see perhaps if the 2 runs scored, if they were on base by error, but not the HR score itself. But I still don't get the earned/unearnd thing...at the end of the game what does it matter? We had more runs on the scoreboard and that's all that counts.

ERA is used to measure a pitcher's performance not the team performance. Thus when a pitcher invokes a batter to hit the ball for an out but the defense makes an error, that runner is ''unearned' if they score. If the pitcher should have had three outs but say two runners reach base on errors and a third play hits an HR then 2 runs are 'unearned' and the HR is earned. Now if there should have been three outs and then runs score, all of them are unearned.

The difference last night's 3 run HR's is Bama had two back to back singles and then the HR where as FSU had 2 outs then Deven reached on an error which should have been the 3rd out and FSU hit the HR thus all runs are unearned because there should have already been three outs recorded and Edenfield would not have had the chance to hit the HR.

Alabama - Bottom of 1st

Play Description	FS	UA
J. Johnson struck out swinging (1-2 FFBFS).	0	0
Prange singled through the left side (1-2 SKBF).	0	0
Shipman singled through the right side (1-0 B); Prange advanced to second.	0	0
Tow homered to center field, 3 RBI (0-1 F); Shipman scored; Prange scored.	0	3
Dowling struck out looking (3-2 BBSBFFFK).	0	3
Doerr flied out to lf (2-0 BB).	0	3

Florida State - Top of 6th

Play Description	FS	UA
Sherrill, S. walked (3-2 BBKKBFB).	1	4
Leonard, M. lined out to cf (2-2 BFBF).	1	4
Harding, K. fouled out to c (2-2 BBFS).	1	4
Flaherty, D. reached on a fielding error by 3b (0-0); Sherrill, S. advanced to second.	1	4
Edenfield, M homered down the lf line, 3 RBI, unearned (1-1 KB); Flaherty, D. scored, unearned; Sherrill, S. scored, unearned.	4	4
Culp, C. pinch hit for Kerr, J..	4	4
Culp, C. walked (3-2 BKBBKB).	4	4
Wacaser, H. to dp for Belviy, A..	4	4
Kerr, J. to cf for Culp, C..	4	4
Wacaser, H. struck out swinging (1-2 KBSS).	4	4

Runs 3 Hits 1 Errors 1 Left On Base 1

 

[c691027]

Raising their game by playing CWS contenders? Who will we play in the acc that’s better competition? That environment was off the chart last night. 6 straight wins vs Bama is an huge accomplishment.

VA Tech will be a Challenge. Roshard has been there 10 years at this point. And, Clemson is talented. Duke uses our model as well!

 

[cnole1]

Couple of things, there are unforced errors where the player just misses the ball, then there are 'forced errors' where the offensive team put pressure on the defense. A hard hit shot to third, player knows she must hurry the throw home/first and either miss plays the ball or make a hurried throw. Same as throwing the ball to 2nd early because of the runner's speed and the defensive play is too slow, missed time ball. Same thing fielding a ground ball to the outfield know FSU 's runners at taking the extra base. Often this happened last night. Just think, 25% of Alabama errors so far have come against FSU. Not to mention the mental error allowing Syd to score when she was dead out at home but threw to first.



ERA is used to measure a pitcher's performance not the team performance. Thus when a pitcher invokes a batter to hit the ball for an out but the defense makes an error, that runner is ''unearned' if they score. If the pitcher should have had three outs but say two runners reach base on errors and a third play hits an HR then 2 runs are 'unearned' and the HR is earned. Now if there should have been three outs and then runs score, all of them are unearned.

The difference last night's 3 run HR's is Bama had two back to back singles and then the HR where as FSU had 2 outs then Deven reached on an error which should have been the 3rd out and FSU hit the HR thus all runs are unearned because there should have already been three outs recorded and Edenfield would not have had the chance to hit the HR.

Alabama - Bottom of 1st

Play Description	FS	UA
J. Johnson struck out swinging (1-2 FFBFS).	0	0
Prange singled through the left side (1-2 SKBF).	0	0
Shipman singled through the right side (1-0 B); Prange advanced to second.	0	0
Tow homered to center field, 3 RBI (0-1 F); Shipman scored; Prange scored.	0	3
Dowling struck out looking (3-2 BBSBFFFK).	0	3
Doerr flied out to lf (2-0 BB).	0	3

Florida State - Top of 6th

Play Description	FS	UA
Sherrill, S. walked (3-2 BBKKBFB).	1	4
Leonard, M. lined out to cf (2-2 BFBF).	1	4
Harding, K. fouled out to c (2-2 BBFS).	1	4
Flaherty, D. reached on a fielding error by 3b (0-0); Sherrill, S. advanced to second.	1	4
Edenfield, M homered down the lf line, 3 RBI, unearned (1-1 KB); Flaherty, D. scored, unearned; Sherrill, S. scored, unearned.	4	4
Culp, C. pinch hit for Kerr, J..	4	4
Culp, C. walked (3-2 BKBBKB).	4	4
Wacaser, H. to dp for Belviy, A..	4	4
Kerr, J. to cf for Culp, C..	4	4
Wacaser, H. struck out swinging (1-2 KBSS).	4	4

Runs 3 Hits 1 Errors 1 Left On Base 1

Thanks for the explanation! I never questioned whether the guy was correct in what he said, only that it sounded like "whining",and excuse making. He really had to grab deep to come up with that! Your explanation makes sense to me, where there was none before. Appreciate it!

 

[fsutep7]

This is exactly right and a great reply... love the fact that we did this on the SEC Network as well.

Regarding Softball as the best sport at FSU, Soccer says "Hold my beer..."

I hope we invest like crazy into the softball facilities moving forward and set it up to be how the softball powerhouse programs do

 

[cnole1]

Our ladies played well, but without the Bama errors, we probably don't win.

Just another part of the game. They made them, we didn't!

 

[paulnvalerie]

Yes it was on the sec channel, but man their announcers could not stop talking about the way they loss, attributing it to errors and mistakes when it was a three run blast was the big reason they lost.

embarrassing for sec fans

I don’t think they were wrong in that errors and mistakes cost them the game. The issue is suggesting that it somehow lessens the victory or that FSU didn’t earn the win.

defense and mental errors are critical components of the game. Just head over to the baseball board and see how our fans feel about poor defense, baserunning blunders and concerns about the catcher position.

yes, Alabama made errors, but to your point, FSU had to capitalize on those those mistakes. On the flip side, our lack of errors FORCED Bama to earn every run. Capitalizing on opponents’ errors and forcing opponents to earn every run or point are characteristics of great teams in every sport.

 

[cnole1]

I don’t think they were wrong in that errors and mistakes cost them the game. The issue is suggesting that it somehow lessens the victory or that FSU didn’t earn the win.

defense and mental errors are critical components of the game. Just head over to the baseball board and see how our fans feel about poor defense, baserunning blunders and concerns about the catcher position.

yes, Alabama made errors, but to your point, FSU had to capitalize on those those mistakes. On the flip side, our lack of errors FORCED Bama to earn every run. Capitalizing on opponents’ errors and forcing opponents to earn every run or point are characteristics of great teams in every sport.

Very well said and written!

 

[Noles61]

Couple of things, there are unforced errors where the player just misses the ball, then there are 'forced errors' where the offensive team put pressure on the defense. A hard hit shot to third, player knows she must hurry the throw home/first and either miss plays the ball or make a hurried throw. Same as throwing the ball to 2nd early because of the runner's speed and the defensive play is too slow, missed time ball. Same thing fielding a ground ball to the outfield know FSU 's runners at taking the extra base. Often this happened last night. Just think, 25% of Alabama errors so far have come against FSU. Not to mention the mental error allowing Syd to score when she was dead out at home but threw to first.



ERA is used to measure a pitcher's performance not the team performance. Thus when a pitcher invokes a batter to hit the ball for an out but the defense makes an error, that runner is ''unearned' if they score. If the pitcher should have had three outs but say two runners reach base on errors and a third play hits an HR then 2 runs are 'unearned' and the HR is earned. Now if there should have been three outs and then runs score, all of them are unearned.

The difference last night's 3 run HR's is Bama had two back to back singles and then the HR where as FSU had 2 outs then Deven reached on an error which should have been the 3rd out and FSU hit the HR thus all runs are unearned because there should have already been three outs recorded and Edenfield would not have had the chance to hit the HR.

Alabama - Bottom of 1st

Play Description	FS	UA
J. Johnson struck out swinging (1-2 FFBFS).	0	0
Prange singled through the left side (1-2 SKBF).	0	0
Shipman singled through the right side (1-0 B); Prange advanced to second.	0	0
Tow homered to center field, 3 RBI (0-1 F); Shipman scored; Prange scored.	0	3
Dowling struck out looking (3-2 BBSBFFFK).	0	3
Doerr flied out to lf (2-0 BB).	0	3

Florida State - Top of 6th

Play Description	FS	UA
Sherrill, S. walked (3-2 BBKKBFB).	1	4
Leonard, M. lined out to cf (2-2 BFBF).	1	4
Harding, K. fouled out to c (2-2 BBFS).	1	4
Flaherty, D. reached on a fielding error by 3b (0-0); Sherrill, S. advanced to second.	1	4
Edenfield, M homered down the lf line, 3 RBI, unearned (1-1 KB); Flaherty, D. scored, unearned; Sherrill, S. scored, unearned.	4	4
Culp, C. pinch hit for Kerr, J..	4	4
Culp, C. walked (3-2 BKBBKB).	4	4
Wacaser, H. to dp for Belviy, A..	4	4
Kerr, J. to cf for Culp, C..	4	4
Wacaser, H. struck out swinging (1-2 KBSS).	4	4

Runs 3 Hits 1 Errors 1 Left On Base 1

Thank you. I understood how Syd's run was unearned, because of baseman's error, but didn't understand HR, but you have now clarified that. So those particular stats dont reflect badly on pitcher, but on fielding.

 

[Dr. Nole]

Couldn’t you make the argument that the team that loses could blame it on errors? The pitcher made an error by letting the batter hit a home run, the team let a runner steal a base etc etc

 

[Noles61]

Our ladies played well, but without the Bama errors, we probably don't win.

Or perhaps the errors were made because Bama felt the pressure, that was applied by FSU's play and the fact they had lost to us 5 previous times. Don't minimize our victory. There is a reason we are ranked #2. While OK is defending National Champs. We were the runners-up...and we BEAT Bama 2x to get there.

 

[luvthenoles]

Couldn’t you make the argument that the team that loses could blame it on errors? The pitcher made an error by letting the batter hit a home run, the team let a runner steal a base etc etc

Yes errors can be costly, if they lead to a run(s) being scored after the error in the half inning.

A mistake, is giving up a homerun. A mistake is allowing a runner advance to another base via steal/slow execution/etc. Those are not errors but mistakes. An error is an errand throw causing a runner to either reach base or gain an extra base because of a errand throw. An error is a batted ground ball, or fly ball, that is not fielded cleanly resulting in batter reaching base.

Those are just SOME of the many examples. All examples contribute to runs being scored, whether unearned or earned. So whether you win 6-5 having all your runs earned or unearned or a mix does not take away the fact that your team scored more runs than the opponent.

My freshman year in college I went 7-2 on the mound. My 2 losses were 1 run ball games where I gave up no earned runs but I lost as the pitcher of record. 2 of my 7 wins I gave up no runs at all but we took advantage of the other teams errors to score more runs resulting in a win.

 

[luvthenoles]

Or perhaps the errors were made because Bama felt the pressure, that was applied by FSU's play and the fact they had lost to us 5 previous times. Don't minimize our victory. There is a reason we are ranked #2. While OK is defending National Champs. We were the runners-up...and we BEAT Bama 2x to get there.

He is not minimizing anything. Errors are a major contributing factor to the final score in baseball/softball games.

Go look at box scores since the beginning of baseball. There are 3 boxes of importance. Runs. Hits. Errors. And any scoreboard at any ballpark for that matter.

Stating the facts like team A lost because their particular errors contributed to runs being scored in that inning resulting in team B winning the game is not egregious nor unrealistic. Very much reality.

 

[islandchief]

They keep track of errors on the scoreboard. It is part of the game.

 

[jamnolfin]

Why on earth are we in Tuscaloosa on a Wednesday night for one game when we're in the thick of the ACC schedule? Who did that? And why?
0h well, Edenfield just hit a 3 run homer to tie it 4-4 in 6th.

For 99% of these girls this is it, there's no major league to go to. Play ball, have fun, win!