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Watch who's ass you're grabbing...

Alcohol has this trick where it shuts down your frontal lobe. It's associated with fun things like reason, caution, and inhibitions.
 
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Is is true this guy will have to register as a sex offender; assuming he is found guilty? While the guy is a jack%%% having to register as a sex offender seems really harsh for grabbing a butt. Agree he got what he deserved and hope my daughter would do the same thing to him. But having to register as a sex offender wow.
 
Is is true this guy will have to register as a sex offender; assuming he is found guilty? While the guy is a jack%%% having to register as a sex offender seems really harsh for grabbing a butt. Agree he got what he deserved and hope my daughter would do the same thing to him. But having to register as a sex offender wow.
Yeah, that is taking it too far.
 
Is is true this guy will have to register as a sex offender; assuming he is found guilty? While the guy is a jack%%% having to register as a sex offender seems really harsh for grabbing a butt. Agree he got what he deserved and hope my daughter would do the same thing to him. But having to register as a sex offender wow.

This is one the prosecutors will jump on. Easy case, and a high chance of conviction. Low hanging fruit. That’s what law enforcement like$ to focu$ on. Good for the stat sheet. Think Jimbo scheduling Murray State and Texas State, etc.
 
Are these equal in your mind? If I get a little loaded at the beach and grab your daughters ass is it 50% her fault?
No

I was pretty straightforward in my response A. Don't grab people's ass.

B. Don't wear clothes in place that would cause a drunk that doesn't understand (A. Don't grab someone's ass) to use his drunken courage.

You shoukd be able to walk anywhere flashing $2k in cash, but it's not smart to do so in a high crime area or an area of drunkards.

Listen PC world, I'm not saying she was asking for it or deserved it no more than anyone that says the Golden State Killer's victims deserved it for not locking their doors.. I'm saying you can be smarter.

If a waitress wears skimpy stuff and flirts for tips and a drunk grabs her ass later, does it give him the right? No

Does it increase the chance? Probably.

I would absolutely advise my daughter against wearing provocative attire .
 
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So now she was flirting? SMH
I never one time said SHE was flirting. I never said it was her fault. I tried to expand enough to break through to some low IQ people incapable of rational thought outside their narrow view

Apparently, I failed.
 
You failed b/c your argument is crap. Not for any other reason.

I think some folks are conflating his observation with justification.

Ask yourself this. Would you expect waitress in a burka in that same environment to be ass grabbed with the same frequency as one dressed like she works at Hooters?

I don't think it is an unreasonable position to assert the burka wearing waitress would get less fondling. This doesn't justify fondling in either case, nor does it justify society forcing women to wear burkas (odds are high someone would miss the point and go there...) Just more a discussion of probability and human (particularly alcohol poisoned) behavior.
 
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I think some folks are conflating his observation with justification.

Ask yourself this. Would you expect waitress in a burka in that same environment to be ass grabbed with the same frequency as one dressed like she works at Hooters?

I don't think it is an unreasonable position to assert the burka wearing waitress would get less fondling. This doesn't justify fondling in either case, nor does it justify society forcing women to wear burkas (odds are high someone would miss the point and go there...) Just more a discussion of probability and human (particularly alcohol poisoned) behavior.
In a way, I can see this line of reasoning.

You don't want to walk down a dark alley if you don't want to get mugged, but that doesn't justify someone mugging another person in a dark alley.

You don't leave your car unlocked if you don't want someone burglarizing it, but that doesn't justify burglarizing an unlocked car.

The difference between theses examples and the one above is that it flirts to closely with the "blame the victim" line.
 
I never blamed the victim.


I have stated repeatedly that you shouldn't grab ass and it wasn't her fault


I said you can be smarter in decisions because other people are not always rational

Anything else is looking for something in my post that doesn't exist
 
I never blamed the victim.


I have stated repeatedly that you shouldn't grab ass and it wasn't her fault


I said you can be smarter in decisions because other people are not always rational

Anything else is looking for something in my post that doesn't exist

You can’t be blind to the optics of your statement?
 
Did he grab her ass, of stick his hand somewhere a bit more invasive?
 
You can’t be blind to the optics of your statement?
Optics refers to the perception of the reader. In those perceptions, we arrive at our understanding based how we've developed schema.

Optics doesn't change my statement.


I tried to clear optics with relation to a Golden State Killer and unlocked doors. Any more fallacy derives from that state of the observer.

I cant help them
 
Optics refers to the perception of the reader. In those perceptions, we arrive at our understanding based how we've developed schema.

Optics doesn't change my statement.


I tried to clear optics with relation to a Golden State Killer and unlocked doors. Any more fallacy derives from that state of the observer.

I cant help them

Is it possible the skimpy clothes increase the chances of her getting her ass grabbed? Sure.

Does that matter one bit? NO. Should she have to censor her attire to account for some drunken loser’s poor decisions? NO.
 
If the nation and world are fine with a guy grabbing a butt and getting classified as a sex offender that is fine with me; I just want to know if I make a dumb drunk mistake that my life is over. Don't care either way just want to make sure I never make a mistake or do something dumb when I am drunk; that way I know my life is over. So many zero tolerance folks have opinions; it must be nice to never make a mistake.
 
Is it possible the skimpy clothes increase the chances of her getting her ass grabbed? Sure.

Does that matter one bit? NO. Should she have to censor her attire to account for some drunken loser’s poor decisions? NO.[/QUOTE

You are so righteous. I could write a bunch of stuff but my guess is you see only black and white. Good luck with that. Just remember everything is subjective; let's hope you are never on the wrong side of that.
 
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