Norvell complemented him today but I can't find him on the roster.

Note: I have red-faced emoji ready.

Reading all the posts about firing Norvell, or changing coordinators is ridiculous. Do you think that these guys showed up in Tallahassee and forgot how to coach fundamentals?? They spend every day with these players and know what they have to work with. I'm firmly convinced that our poor performance is largely attributed to a lack of talent and depth. How many high school All-Americans do you see on this roster? At the end of the season, how many FSU players will land on any ALL-ACC 1st, 2nd, or 3rd teams? Maybe Johnson?? There is an obvious reason why grad transfers are starting, and yes, Wake Forest has better players than FSU. They are older, been in their system longer and our physically more mature. That's a fact. How do you think Dabo would do with this roster? How many of our current players would step on the field with our 2013 team?? Couple that with a lack on an elite QB sine 2013-2014, and poor offense line play, and it's no wonder we haven't been very good for the past 6 years.

It's going to take this staff a couple of years to recruit at the highest level before you can judge them. Bring in a couple of top 10 classes and than judge the staff on the results. I graduated from FSU in 1986 and have been a die hard fan since I was a kid. Trust me, I know that the on field product is not what we were accustomed to watching in the 1990's and 2013-2014, but the days of FSU simply having better players , and more of them, is not where we are at this time. I am a Norvell fan and think we need to let him continue to build a roster. Everything I hear about him, behind the scenes is very positive.

We should be 1-2 at this point and may be lucky to win 3 games this year. Its tough to watch, but I do think that we have better days ahead.

Could not wait for the season to start, so much hope and optimism. Now I can't wait for it to end. That's the negative side the positive side is my Saturday's just freed up completely.

Reminds me of Bob Uecker calling the Cleveland Indians games in "Major League".

Entertaining if you need a good laugh (although FSU football is no laughing matter at this point)

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Looking for the best gameday options for cash lots near the stadium to park a 32' RV. Does the church on Stadium Drive still have parking? TIA!

SC piece on Deion. Please just hire this man as HC I beg you. All of these so called “coaches” we have hired so far have been nothing but a complete joke. Coach Prime would take us back to the top and we’d stay there, he is the truth.

Then we will control our ACC destiny again!!

Switching gears a little from all the doom and gloom. Teams that win and excel, without exception, have stellar QBs. The same can be said for teams that pull upsets (in most cases not named GT).

So, thinking back to almost all FSU 'bad losses' over the years....I can remember some really good QBs beating FSU. Brett Farvre comes to mind. So, here is 2012 (after post-Bowden rebuilding) - thru 2016 (pre-cratering) as a small sample set. Games we were favored and counted as upsets/bad losses so this does not include rivals Miami, Clemson and uf. All losses were to NFL players at QB (except GT).

FWIW


2012 – 1 pt road loss to NC State (4-2, 1-1) – QB Mike Glennon NFL Giants
I recall a lot of ACC ref total BS penalties on their final drive including 3 THREE 4th down conversions

2014 – Blowout loss to Oregon (13-1) Playoffs – QB Marcus Mariota NFL Raiders

2015 – Inexplicable road loss to GT on freak blocked FG

2015 – Loss to #18 Houston (13-1) – QB Greg Ward NFL Eagles (WR)

Note: QB Maquire played injured in game

2016 – Blowout road loss to #10 Louisville (3-0, 2-0) – QB Lamar Jackson NFL Ravens

Note: Petrino/staff stated they prepared all off season for this game

2016 – Home loss to UNC (4-1, 2-0) on walk-off, miracle 54 yd FG – QB Mitchell Trubisky NFL Bills

All this to say, at minimum, we need future NFL QBs on the roster and we do not have them or at least it's not apparent.

Didn’t like it….. he mentioned a Pre-determined list of 3rd down calls that they “like”. I got the impression that no matter the flow..they choose plays based on that list.

Is that why we can be driving and moving the ball and get to 3rd and short and do nothing because we don’t make calls based on what is currently WORKING.

He also brought up not scheming players open…didn’t like that comment either.

I’m trusting Norvell during this time, but his OC’s interview didn’t make me feel better..

Please hire him as DC from UGA. Coaches Linebackers, only makes 600k. Solid recruiter. Has learned from Saban, Kirby, and now Lanning. He's from right up the road In Valdosta. This would be a homerun hire. Pruitt 2.0

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11:40 — Norvell video up soon. He did say Robert Scott practiced some today.

10:40 -- Had to do a double take...Pokey leapt up on a deep fade and went up with one hand and snagged it for an impressive catch right before the 20th period ended.

10:30 -- Malik McClain had a nice catch near the boundary, tapping his toes to get the completion

10:20 -- Looks like they're sticking with scout team work so updates might be drying up but we'll have interviews around 11:30 a.m. and sprinkle anything in update-worthy in the interim.

10:10 -- Logging in 1-on-1 WR/DB work; tough sledding for receivers with drops early on but some big plays did materialize. Andrew Parchment and Bryan Robinson both had deep ball catches and Malik McClain made a nice diving catch

9:50 -- When they went outside, heavy focus on fundamentals. Then they did come together for some 11-on-11.

Milton's drive was very good. He hit McClain for a gain of 10-15. Then Corbin had a run for about 10. The next run for Douglas didn't go anywhere. Then Milton hit Parchment for a touchdown of about 45 yards. Nice route and pass.

Purdy's drive started with a big run for D.J. Williams. Good to see him involved ... haven't seen him flash much in practice, and he hasn't been getting on the field. His next run got stuffed in the backfield by Josh Farmer. Then after one more run, Purdy overthrew Helton and Shyheim Brown dropped what should have been a pick.

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9:20 -- During the two-minute drill, Milton took the first series. Corbin had a couple of decent runs, and Milton threw a good backshoulder pass to Andrew Parchment, but he couldn't make the catch. DB had good coverage. Think it was Dotson, but not sure.

Purdy took the second series but didn't get very far. Hit a short pass to Jordan Wilson, then there was a run that didn't go anywhere. And he was hurried on the next two plays and had to throw it away.

Scouts here today from the Bengals, Texans and I think Steelers.


8:52 — They have refs out here today. Norvell said that was something they might do to cut down on penalties.

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Good morning!

Heading out to FSU football practice. Will have some updates around 9:30 a.m.

So..

Look at our respective programs after our two top tier coaches left (Jimbo and Urban).

UF:
Muschamp (well known, up and coming)
McElwain (over performer at lower level college)
Mullen (proven experience and PAID)

FSU:
Taggert(well known, up and coming)
Norvell(over performer at lower level college)

Not sure who our Mullen will be.. but .. god willing.. we are one coach away from being back. Hurts to think how far we’ve fallen. An expensive lesson and wish we would have started with a proven coach and paid him like the top program we claim to be..

Also sucks to know we are getting close to the point where it would have been cheaper to pay jimbo 8 mil a year.. once we cut Norvell.. it woulda been cheaper.

tired of trying these unproven, lower level coaches. We need to pull a Mullen, unfortunately, we are probably a few years from being able to do that.

just double the amount u normally drink on a Saturday and we will make it through this together

Including 2019 as a comparison so that we see the record and SP+ ranking of the team each coach inherited... I will say that Norvell's 69 in SP+ seems better but if I remember correctly, Bill Connelly's formula keeps around pre-season ranking predictions through week 4. Which shows for Washington at 19 even after being 1-2 and losing to Montana. But the other top 4 of Kiffin, Pittman, Aranda, Tucker have good starts (so far) in year two. USA Today Sagarin has FSU at 107. So it will be interesting to see if what SP+ has after weeks 4 and 5 for FSU when the preseason formula stops counting.

The first point is not much is working. If he doesn’t know the offense 100% then give him a package and do 5-10 plays or whatever. Second though is: he’s a dual threat. Corey Clark said he saw him at field level and he has wheels. That’s the QB you need bc no one will think he’s a passing or running liability like the other two starters.

Clearly neither has been up to job. But I am wondering if we are seeing something wrong. Maybe it’s true that they didn’t do it here, but we labelled WT TWOAT and now many are saying MN is challenging the role.

But I am wondering if the real issue is that FSU is so much worse than we thought. I mean in terms of culture and focus and admin and just the leftovers from the crumbling Jimbo mess.

Taggart came in and publicly identified a lot of important stuff. Seemed it was being addressed. Remember the APR stuff? Taggart said all the right stuff. Discipline? He was the damn savior. Then crap. MN comes in. Much of the same. He’s got the culture. He’s got the discipline. He’s got the youth thing. And crap.

Anyone think maybe they aren’t ho to this not because they suck, but because we’re so far back now that there are only a few people who even would have a chance. And they may not have interest. Could we wee just cycle people through here for years because there just aren’t options to actually fix this.

(3:00) Give up on McKenzie. Give up? Has he had a true chance?

(8:00) Some cracks in Norvell's quite reserved attitude?

(13:00) QB issues, injured OL, subpar WR explains the struggles -- or does it?

(25:00) Too soon to criticize player development?

(37:00) One e-mailer is done with Norvell...and makes some fair points, but....

(53:00) Just find a great QB already and eveyrthing will be fixed

(1:00:00) If this season ends as poorly as it's started, what's the play for 2022 and beyond?

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The 3rd quarter and start of 4th show the potential in this offense. Yes the 4th down call was bad but if it worked and we score it's 35-21. We sack Hartman and stop wake then go right down the field with the best drive by Milton so far this year. He fumbles going into the end zone unfortunately. Could have been a 35-28 game. My point is we need more of those drives they were beautiful (without the fumble and 4th down failure of course). That is what I expect to see this weekend.

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USA Today Sagarin:


FSU is #107 with a score of 64

UMass is #193 with a score of 43

so FSU should be favored by about 3 TDs. (64-43 + 1.5 home field)

the 19th worst team in the country in their latest bottom 25. Why Miami isn’t also in the rankings baffles me.

Didn't permanently jinx him afterall

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