2016 PGSF NFL Mock Draft Round 3....On the Clock- Manch
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They are never happy lol.You made (most of) them happy with that selection.
The Houston Texans select Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame with the 22nd pick in the 2016 draft.. He will pair up with Hopkins and provide another option with Lamar Miller joining the team. Corey Coleman was a very popular choice for this spot until recently. There are concerns about his size, speed and hands compared to Fuller.
I won't be home until after 10 am, so don't panic if my pick comes up before then. It'll get made in due time.
Men in purple select Cody Whitehair OL Kansas State. High effort leader type. Will probably start at guard in the NFL, despite being a tackle mostly in college. Described as an offensive line coach's dream. High floor. Stays balanced, uses the punch, will ride the defender, doesn't take plays off. Gets too upright if attacked directly, but that's a teachable flaw. Could be a multiple All-Pro.
Can't see the Vikings drafting OL in the 1st with their free agent haul, but your call man.
@NoleLizards youre on the clock, I know you won't be on until 10am but just keeping up with things.
With the 24th pick, the Cincinnati Bengals select...
Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson. 6-5, 277.
NFL insiders say Cincinnati has one of the most talented rosters in the league, but one position that could use some shoring up is DE/edge rusher. Michael Johnson is on the downside of his career and post-first round draft picks in recent years Margus Hunt & Will Clarke have proved to be underwhelming. This is tremendous value to get Dodd at this point as many pundits have him drafted higher than this. (Daniel Jeremiah for one has him going #9 is his mock ahead of teammate Shaq Lawson.)
From CBS Sports:
Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson. 6-5, 277.
NFL insiders say Cincinnati has one of the most talented rosters in the league, but one position that could use some shoring up is DE/edge rusher. Michael Johnson is on the downside of his career and post-first round draft picks in recent years Margus Hunt & Will Clarke have proved to be underwhelming. This is tremendous value to get Dodd at this point as many pundits have him drafted higher than this. (Daniel Jeremiah for one has him going #9 is his mock ahead of teammate Shaq Lawson.)
From CBS Sports:
- Player Overview
With Shaq Lawson commanding most of the attention at right defensive end, Dodd was able to blossom at left defensive end in his first year as a starter. He finished the 2015 season with 23.5 tackles for loss and 12.0 sacks, which ranked second on the team behind Lawson. A relative unknown prior to the 2015 season, Dodd made the most of his starting opportunity and is an ascending NFL prospect.
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Passes the eye test with the quickness and power blend to win the edge, showing development throughout last season with this hand technique and timing. Shows terrific initial quickness to beat tackles and guards, as well as the agility and balance to get skinny to penetrate the gap between them.
His quick, strong hands allow him to rip his way through would-be blocks and he uses his long arms to lasso ballcarriers. Improved discipline and patience to hold back-side contain, stack the edge and cut off runs to the outside. High motor player and fights through the whistle, wearing down offensive linemen. Pushed himself in the film room and on the practice field to seize his opportunity to start in 2015.
WEAKNESSES: Not a twitched up rusher who can easily change speeds in his rush, lacking cat-like quickness. Needs to better keep his balance through gaps. Doesn't consistently use his hands to convert speed to power and isn't much of a bully.
Undeveloped pass rush repertoire and needs to add more to his bag of tricks to fool blockers. Tends to think too much and play overly patient at times. Lack of hand tactics will cause his rush to stall. Only one season of starting experience and productivity. Benefited from playing opposite Shaq Lawson, rarely facing double-teams.
COMPARES TO: Kony Ealy, Carolina Panthers - Similar to when Ealy entered the league two years ago, it will take some time for Dodd to adjust to the pro game, but all the skills are there for him to develop into a reliable starter.
IN OUR VIEW: Based on traits, Dodd checks several boxes for the NFL with the size, length, athleticism and strength potential to be effective in the NFL. He also improved his ball awareness and discipline as his reps increased last season, showing encouraging growth that indicates he isn't near his football ceiling.
--Dane Brugler & Rob Rang (2/10/16)
Player Lowdown
Combine Results
40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
4.86 2.84 - - - - - -
Workout Results
40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
4.83 2.84 1.69 - - - - -
@Victory!!! youre on the clock friend. You have until 9:58am tomorrow to choose
I vote we lift the weekend hold of we want to get through this.
I vote we lift the weekend hold of we want to get through this.
Has anyone made an effort to track down this "Victory!" character? Once again, I am not a premium subscriber and therefore not privy to all the boards on here. Personally, I have never seen the guy post except to claim the Steelers and have no idea which boards he frequents, if any.
My pick was made at about 10am Friday...Is that early enough for the 24-hour rule to be in effect for Victory/Pittsburgh so that we can hopefully move it along in a few minutes??
I agree, lets move on and we will apologize if the guy comes back, but we need to get moving.
It's good I stopped by......the Seahawks select Eli Apple-CB, The OSU. I will write it up Monday, but Richard Sherman gets a protégé.
Write up: Apple is a long armed, long lean body finesse CB. He over-uses his hands, but is still learning the position. He has an iron deficiency problem that plagued his development in college, and suffers from cramps. If he gets the health issues figured out, he could be the steal of the draft.
Write up: Apple is a long armed, long lean body finesse CB. He over-uses his hands, but is still learning the position. He has an iron deficiency problem that plagued his development in college, and suffers from cramps. If he gets the health issues figured out, he could be the steal of the draft.
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The Green Bay Packers select DT Andrew Billings
Billings was already a big name around Waco before he even agreed to play for the Bears, dominating on the high school football field (266 pancake blocks in his junior and senior years) and setting a state record in power-lifting with 2,010 total pounds at the state meet (805 squat, 705 dead lift, 500 on bench). Despite the high expectations, he somehow lived up to his billing. After contributing as a true freshman (two starts, 29 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss), Billings came into his own in 2014, receiving consensus first-team All-Big 12 notice with 37 tackles, 11.5 for loss. The league named him co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2015, leading Baylor with 15 tackles for loss and tying for the team lead with 5.5 sacks as he heard his name mentioned on several All-American squads. The fact he led the Bears in tackles for loss and sacks shows the athleticism and aggressive nature of his game.
Pro Day Results
40-yard dash: 4.96 seconds
Short shuttle: 4.77 seconds
3-cone: 7.77 seconds
Analysis
Strengths
Elite power with a weightlifting background. Generates booming power from hip explosion and when his leverage is on point, he can be menacing. Moved from offensive line to defensive line in college and is getting better by leaps and bounds each year. Drops his pad level even lower when splitting double teams and charging through gaps. Uses violent, powerful swats and slaps to free of opposing hand placement. Instant reaction time makes it difficult to cross his face. Gets arm extension into blocker and stays clean as he pursues laterally. Ridiculous closing burst to the sideline for a big man. Dominates single blocks and is a surefire tackler when he gets hands on a running back. Improving pass rusher with an effective bull rush.
Weaknesses
Top heavy. Powerful but short. Once he gets going in a direction, struggles to slow down and change directions. Recovery athleticism is average. Plays with good initial effort but an average secondary motor. Still learning techniques for the position. Raw as a pass rusher relying on power over a plan. Extremely young to play professionally. Will need positive locker room leaders to guide him as he matures.
NFL Comparison
Chris Baker
Bottom Line
Billings won't turn 21 until March of 2016, but he has the overwhelming strength of a full-grown NFL defensive tackle. With elite power and unusual closing speed for a big man, Billings has a chance to become something we rarely see -- a playmaking nose tackle with the ability to dominate at the point of attack. Teams will decide through research and interviews whether Billings can handle the NFL life at such a young age, but if he can, he has all-pro potential. Really wanted a OL on this pick but all the 1st round worthy OL was gone so this was also a much needed asset to this team.
Billings was already a big name around Waco before he even agreed to play for the Bears, dominating on the high school football field (266 pancake blocks in his junior and senior years) and setting a state record in power-lifting with 2,010 total pounds at the state meet (805 squat, 705 dead lift, 500 on bench). Despite the high expectations, he somehow lived up to his billing. After contributing as a true freshman (two starts, 29 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss), Billings came into his own in 2014, receiving consensus first-team All-Big 12 notice with 37 tackles, 11.5 for loss. The league named him co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2015, leading Baylor with 15 tackles for loss and tying for the team lead with 5.5 sacks as he heard his name mentioned on several All-American squads. The fact he led the Bears in tackles for loss and sacks shows the athleticism and aggressive nature of his game.
Pro Day Results
40-yard dash: 4.96 seconds
Short shuttle: 4.77 seconds
3-cone: 7.77 seconds
Analysis
Strengths
Elite power with a weightlifting background. Generates booming power from hip explosion and when his leverage is on point, he can be menacing. Moved from offensive line to defensive line in college and is getting better by leaps and bounds each year. Drops his pad level even lower when splitting double teams and charging through gaps. Uses violent, powerful swats and slaps to free of opposing hand placement. Instant reaction time makes it difficult to cross his face. Gets arm extension into blocker and stays clean as he pursues laterally. Ridiculous closing burst to the sideline for a big man. Dominates single blocks and is a surefire tackler when he gets hands on a running back. Improving pass rusher with an effective bull rush.
Weaknesses
Top heavy. Powerful but short. Once he gets going in a direction, struggles to slow down and change directions. Recovery athleticism is average. Plays with good initial effort but an average secondary motor. Still learning techniques for the position. Raw as a pass rusher relying on power over a plan. Extremely young to play professionally. Will need positive locker room leaders to guide him as he matures.
NFL Comparison
Chris Baker
Bottom Line
Billings won't turn 21 until March of 2016, but he has the overwhelming strength of a full-grown NFL defensive tackle. With elite power and unusual closing speed for a big man, Billings has a chance to become something we rarely see -- a playmaking nose tackle with the ability to dominate at the point of attack. Teams will decide through research and interviews whether Billings can handle the NFL life at such a young age, but if he can, he has all-pro potential. Really wanted a OL on this pick but all the 1st round worthy OL was gone so this was also a much needed asset to this team.
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With the 28th pick, the Kansas City Chiefs select...
William Jackson III, CB, Houston. 6-0, 189.
The Chiefs struck gold by drafting Marcus Peters to fill one corner position a year ago as he went on to be named the league's Defensive Rookie of the Year and was voted to the Pro Bowl. With the departure of Sean Smith via free agency, a vacancy has opened on the other side, so the Chiefs' brain trust goes CB in the first round consecutive drafts. Jackson is a fast riser who blazed a 4.37-40 at the Combine and performed admirably against our beloved Noles in the PeachBowl.
From CBS Sports:
Player Overview
A JUCO transfer, Jackson became a full-time starter at Houston in 2014 as a junior and led the team with 12 passes defended, adding 37 tackles and two interceptions.
The 2016 class of senior cornerbacks appears to be an underwhelming group at initial glance, but a senior corner who stands out in a good way is Jackson, who will be an attractive prospect due to his NFL ingredients.
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: At the next level, scouts and coaches covet speed at the position, but teams also want size and length to better match-up with the physical pass-catchers in the NFL. Jackson is a good-sized athlete for the position with an aggressive attitude that serves him well, doing a lot of wide receiver-like things at the catch point.
Brackets receivers against the sideline with terrific instincts and coverage sense to take away short passes and not get beat deep. He looks comfortable in either press-man or off-man. Balanced off the snap and extends his hands to jam in press-man coverage. Quick out of his stance to shadow routes, reading the receiver to sense throws and get his head turned to react accordingly.
WEAKNESSES: Does he have the short-area agility to hold up vs. the quick pass-catchers at the next level? NFL scouts will keep their eyes trained on his transition technique during pre-draft workouts.
He will find himself off-balance in press and needs to refine his technique, anticipation and route recognition to eliminate false steps. Has some hip tightness. Allows receivers to drive him off the route with hard-stops or physical push-offs. Needs to better anticipate routes and improve his spatial awareness to close gaps at the stem. Lacks a second gear to recover if the receiver gains a step late vertically. Will panic and get grabby at times, attracting obvious penalties. Needs to better square up his targets as a tackler.
IN OUR VIEW: His body type, arm length and physicality at the catch point are why Jackson might be the first senior corner drafted. Projects as a day two pick.
--Dane Brugler (2/10/16)
William Jackson III, CB, Houston. 6-0, 189.
The Chiefs struck gold by drafting Marcus Peters to fill one corner position a year ago as he went on to be named the league's Defensive Rookie of the Year and was voted to the Pro Bowl. With the departure of Sean Smith via free agency, a vacancy has opened on the other side, so the Chiefs' brain trust goes CB in the first round consecutive drafts. Jackson is a fast riser who blazed a 4.37-40 at the Combine and performed admirably against our beloved Noles in the PeachBowl.
From CBS Sports:
Player Overview
A JUCO transfer, Jackson became a full-time starter at Houston in 2014 as a junior and led the team with 12 passes defended, adding 37 tackles and two interceptions.
The 2016 class of senior cornerbacks appears to be an underwhelming group at initial glance, but a senior corner who stands out in a good way is Jackson, who will be an attractive prospect due to his NFL ingredients.
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: At the next level, scouts and coaches covet speed at the position, but teams also want size and length to better match-up with the physical pass-catchers in the NFL. Jackson is a good-sized athlete for the position with an aggressive attitude that serves him well, doing a lot of wide receiver-like things at the catch point.
Brackets receivers against the sideline with terrific instincts and coverage sense to take away short passes and not get beat deep. He looks comfortable in either press-man or off-man. Balanced off the snap and extends his hands to jam in press-man coverage. Quick out of his stance to shadow routes, reading the receiver to sense throws and get his head turned to react accordingly.
WEAKNESSES: Does he have the short-area agility to hold up vs. the quick pass-catchers at the next level? NFL scouts will keep their eyes trained on his transition technique during pre-draft workouts.
He will find himself off-balance in press and needs to refine his technique, anticipation and route recognition to eliminate false steps. Has some hip tightness. Allows receivers to drive him off the route with hard-stops or physical push-offs. Needs to better anticipate routes and improve his spatial awareness to close gaps at the stem. Lacks a second gear to recover if the receiver gains a step late vertically. Will panic and get grabby at times, attracting obvious penalties. Needs to better square up his targets as a tackler.
IN OUR VIEW: His body type, arm length and physicality at the catch point are why Jackson might be the first senior corner drafted. Projects as a day two pick.
--Dane Brugler (2/10/16)
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Now that my own pick is out of the way, it being obvious that the Steelers need a corner, I would suggest Mackenzie Alexander from Clemson...another guy who many pundits have going in the first round.
With the next pick Arizona picks Robert Nkemdiche, DT/DE Ole Miss
Just too good to pass up this late... thought about a safety, too
STRENGTHS: Trimmed, well-conditioned body type with broad shoulders and a muscular frame. Shows flashes of Ndamukong Suh with above average athleticism, using movement skills and lower body fluidity to skirt blockers and easily change directions. Can push the pocket with power and offers the versatility to make an impact vs. the run and penetrate the pocket to make plays in the backfield.
Plays low to the ground to beat blockers with leverage. Naturally powerful and has room to get even stronger. Versatile skill-set with experience inside and outside on the defensive line. Also saw snaps on offense and special teams at Ole Miss with one receiving touchdowns.
WEAKNESSES: Tends to play too fast and out of control, hindering his ability to break down in tight areas. Bad habit of turning his body once engaged to lean into blockers instead of consistently anchoring or using his hands. Gap integrity and on-field discipline need improved, selling out and losing sight of the ball. Unimpressive career production with only 19.0 tackles for loss and 7.0 sacks, disappearing for stretches during games.
Inconsistent responses from hard coaching - does he want to be great? Off-field decision-making and accountability require investigation following multiple run-ins with the law.
IN OUR VIEW: After starting his career outside as a defensive end, Nkemdiche filled out his frame and moved inside to defensive tackle where he is best-suited in the NFL. Although he isn't one of the top-10 football players in this class, Nkemdiche is one of the top-10 talents because of his ability to get upfield in any scheme and penetrate gaps, but teams will view him as a high risk/high reward type of prospect.
COMPARES TO: Michael Bennett, DT, Seattle Seahawks - Statistics don't reflect Nkemdiche's impact, but, like Bennett, he has the versatility and athletic prowess in a big man's body to be disruptive in different ways.
Just too good to pass up this late... thought about a safety, too
STRENGTHS: Trimmed, well-conditioned body type with broad shoulders and a muscular frame. Shows flashes of Ndamukong Suh with above average athleticism, using movement skills and lower body fluidity to skirt blockers and easily change directions. Can push the pocket with power and offers the versatility to make an impact vs. the run and penetrate the pocket to make plays in the backfield.
Plays low to the ground to beat blockers with leverage. Naturally powerful and has room to get even stronger. Versatile skill-set with experience inside and outside on the defensive line. Also saw snaps on offense and special teams at Ole Miss with one receiving touchdowns.
WEAKNESSES: Tends to play too fast and out of control, hindering his ability to break down in tight areas. Bad habit of turning his body once engaged to lean into blockers instead of consistently anchoring or using his hands. Gap integrity and on-field discipline need improved, selling out and losing sight of the ball. Unimpressive career production with only 19.0 tackles for loss and 7.0 sacks, disappearing for stretches during games.
Inconsistent responses from hard coaching - does he want to be great? Off-field decision-making and accountability require investigation following multiple run-ins with the law.
IN OUR VIEW: After starting his career outside as a defensive end, Nkemdiche filled out his frame and moved inside to defensive tackle where he is best-suited in the NFL. Although he isn't one of the top-10 football players in this class, Nkemdiche is one of the top-10 talents because of his ability to get upfield in any scheme and penetrate gaps, but teams will view him as a high risk/high reward type of prospect.
COMPARES TO: Michael Bennett, DT, Seattle Seahawks - Statistics don't reflect Nkemdiche's impact, but, like Bennett, he has the versatility and athletic prowess in a big man's body to be disruptive in different ways.
There were two guys that were particularly intriguing to me as to when they'd be selected: Nkemdiche was one...Still playing the waiting game on Jaylon Smith.
Carolina has a great defense, and resigned Charles Johnson after he 'tested" the free agency waters. Jonathan Stewart is serviceable running back, and Mike Tolbert is the short yardage guy. Carolina hits the jackpot with Henry still being available. As a TB fan, this is my worst nightmare scenario.
Cam, Kelvin, Funches, Olsen and Henry, along with the reemergence of Ted Ginn, this could be an unstoppable unit.
@fsucag5694 You and the Broncos are on the clock. Your 24 hours expires at 10:52 EDT on 4/12.
@jim65 Nice pick with Derrick Henry for the Panthers...And thanks for taking care of the Steelers mess.
@jim65 Nice pick with Derrick Henry for the Panthers...And thanks for taking care of the Steelers mess.
