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2016 PGSF NFL Mock Draft Round 3....On the Clock- Manch

Don't wanna hold you up, NiA, but I think we should get an official ruling. That's why Jim makes the big bucks.

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Perhaps you could just hit a provisional.
 
I agree, we should keep going. We've never modified for trades in the past and should not start mid-course.
 
Great pick NiA. Sometimes I think the importance of having a solid center is underappreciated. (One only needs to look at out own Noles to see how not having a good center post-Stork...with the obvious exception of Cam Erving being moved there for a few games late in the '14 season...has negatively affected us.) When Dallas took Frederick toward the end of the 1st round a couple of years ago, the experts criticized them at the time for reaching, but the Cowboys came out smelling like a rose on that one.
 
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We have never, in the past, changed the draft order once we started, regardless of any real life trades. I think it should stay as is.

Agreed. This would have changed literally every pick in the first. We shouldn't change and the Rams should be picking
 
sorry , I was thinking I was after fsu67810, deleted my post, as I agreed we should keep moving and not change...sorry for jumping the gun
 
sorry , I was thinking I was after fsu67810, deleted my post, as I agreed we should keep moving and not change...sorry for jumping the gun

No you're good, @fmol4 has sandwich picks around you with Dolphins and Lions, he picked for the Dolphins, you're pick is good.
 
Sorry guys, out on the gun range today. Let's keep it rolling as is
 
well hell , I am all kinds of confused today, I blame Lizard
here is m pick again



With the 44th pick in the PGSF 2016 NFL Mock Draft The Los Angeles rams select
Ryan Kelly , C University of Alabama

Kelly fits with first round pick as the line needs to be bolstered and a strong center will help the maturation of a young QB

cbs write up
Player Overview
Kelly took over for Barrett Jones, the 2012 winner of the Rimington Trophy as the nation's best center, and played well over the past three seasons, emerging as the top-rated senior center prospect by 2015.

He finished his career with a national title win in his 35th career start, took home the Rimington Award as the nation's top center in 2015 and shared the SEC's Jacobs Blocking Trophy (top blocker) with Arkansas' Sebastian Tretola.

Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Communication skills and grit made him the glue of the Alabama offensive line. Boasts the awareness and strength you would expect from the leader of Alabama's offensive line. Quite athletic, slipping to the second level easily while run blocking and mirroring defenders while in pass protection. Has not allowed a sack the past two years.
Quick snap-and-step motion and works hard to gain body position, anchor and absorb contact, extending to keep defenders from his body.
WEAKNESSES: Average-at-best size, length and growth potential. Needs to continue and develop his power. Quick movements based more on awareness rather than explosive traits.
Overeager at times and needs to stay off the ground, lunging, dropping his eyes and falling off his target. Overaggressive at the second level, leading to his pads rising or overrunning linebackers. Needs to improve his timing in space to land blocks on designed screens.
Durability hasn't been a strength, missing four games in Sept. 2013 (stretched MCL), two games in Oct. 2014 (right knee sprain) and most of the Texas A&M contest this past season due to a concussion (Oct. 2015).
COMPARES TO: Both rely more on hustle than physical talent, but they also have a strong understanding of how to use their positional skill and smarts to complete the mission.
IN OUR VIEW: Arguably the top center prospect in the country, Kelly was a model of consistency for the Tide offense in 2015 with opposing coaches praising his knowledge and instincts as a blocker. He projects as a solid Day Two pick and long-time starter in the NFL.
--Rob Rang and Dane Brugler (2/4/16)
 
Now I'm confused, but if Detroit is on the clock here is the next pick. They select Shilique Calhoun, DE/OLB, Michigan State.

Per CBS Sports:
STRENGTHS: Lining up mostly at left defensive end, he does an excellent job using his long strides to gain instant momentum, leaning into blockers to transition that speed into power. He can do damage from both sides of the line. Has a fluid lower body and bends well off the edge with natural flexibility to curve the arc.

Often wins the edge with a straight speed rush, using his initial get-off and long strides to beat the tackle to the corner. Slips blocks with his quick feet and initial momentum to crash the pocket, showing a relentless play style to keep blockers busy.

Calhoun has shown improved hand use and pass rush moves, putting more thought into his moves and using his length to stack and shed with a violent mentality. He is stout at the point of attack to hold his ground vs. the run. Shows impressive strength, length and even agility when run defending.

He is coordinated in space to easily change directions and keeps his feet well, protecting against cut blocks. Does an excellent job playing the edges and holding contain. Does a nice job using his length to jolt blockers.

WEAKNESSES: Calhoun isn't as strong as he looks right now and is missing a power element to his game as he's too easily slowed or stonewalled at contact. He loses the leverage battle too often and his ball awareness tends to run hot/cold. His snap anticipation and technique are both underdeveloped.

Bad habit of lowering his head at contact, losing sight of his target. Calhoun needs to be a better finisher in the pocket, playing too hard and out of control at times, leaving production on the field.

IN OUR VIEW: Calhoun has a bad habit of popping upright at the snap with long legs and high hips, allowing offenses to run at him, but as a rusher, he has put together quality tape for NFL scouts to consider him in the top 32 picks.

--Dane Brugler & Rob Rang (2/9/16)
 
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Well, dang, @fmol4 took my top selection as I really wanted pass rush here, but, I'll happily take with the 46th selection, the New Orleans Saints draft, DT, Kenny Clark from UCLA.
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Clark is more of run stopper than pass rusher, but fits the bill for helping to improve the Saints defense which was near last in every defensive category. He has great hips and movement, and still has potential for pass rush technique to maybe reach All-Pro status. Plus, he was used in some jumbo packages and caught a touchdown pass or two and can fit in with Payton's goalline packages. Really happy to improve the front 7 for the Saints with both picks and drastically provide immediate help. Secondary was a thought here, but the CB value just isn't the same as the front 4. With Clark and Fairley and Jenkins to rotate and anchor the DT positions, an edge rusher opposite Jordan will shore up the front 4 and make them quite formidable, plus Anthony, Lee, and however you spell the Hawaiian's name at LB; the defense is making huge strides. In the real draft, Saints will likely go with two offensive weapons for Brees and Payton, oh well.
CBS Write-up:
PLAYER OVERVIEW
A two-year starter, Clark lined up primarily as a nose tackle and one-technique defensive tackle in UCLA's 4-3 base defense, finishing second on the team in tackles (75) in 2015.
Clark announced on Dec. 28 that he would skip his final year at UCLA to enter the 2016 NFL Draft.
"After much thought and consideration with my family, I have decided to forego my career at UCLA and enter the 2016 NFL Draft," Clark said in a statement that he posted on social media. "I am ready to take the next step forward and excited to pursue my dream toward being the best player I can be in the NFL."
Clark enjoyed a breakout sophomore campaign in which he earned Second Team All-Pac-12 honors with 58 tackles, including 5.5 for loss.
Clark immediately caught the attention of the coaching staff as a freshman, playing in all 13 games and starting four contests, registering 31 tackles and four tackles for loss.
STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES
STRENGTHS: Scouts can check off a lot of boxes with Clark. He was a high school wrestling champ, and many of those maneuvers translate from the mat to the football field, playing with low hips, leverage and power.
He's a stout run defender who comes off the ball low and hard, consistently winning the leverage battle. Anchors well to double teams, planting his feet into the turf and locking out his arms. Clark flashes a quick burst but doesn't rely on it, exploding through the gap to wreak havoc at the line of scrimmage when opponents attempt to pull to block others.
Asked to play defensive end, defensive tackle and nose guard for the Bruins, Clark will enter the NFL with plenty of position and schematic versatility.
WEAKNESSES: Just average size for the position. While possessing an exciting initial burst, Clark tops out quickly and shows just average change of direction and balance for the position, limiting his upside as a pass rusher.
Clark gives good effort in pursuit but too often gets caught up in the hand-fighting at the line of scrimmage and occasionally is extended too far over his feet.
COMPARES TO: Domata Peko, DT, Cincinnati Bengals - Similar to Peko, Clark is a power-packed run defender who should be a quality nose tackle for a long time, initially as a two-down defender with potential to be more.
IN OUR VIEW: Though he doesn't possess great size, Clark is one of the country's better run-stuffers, winning with strength, a naturally low center of gravity and hustle to plug rushing lanes. Overshadowed by flashier athletes throughout much of his career and still developing his pass rush skills, Clark flashes the violence, agility and motor to twist and drive blockers backward, projecting as a three-down interior player at the next level.

@TheDentist you are on the clock.
 
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Also, on today's trade, as a 49ers fan, I'm ecstatic because now it looks like QB goes 1-2 and the 49ers won't reach for Lynch and can get a top 5 talent that will fall into their laps, hopefully Jack, or at worst, Buckner.
 
With the 47th pick of the draft-- the Indianapolis Colts select Kamalei Correa DE/OLB Boise State.
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For the second pick in a row the Colts skip over the top player on their big board to tackle a huge position of need. With the bust of former 1st round pick Bjoern Werner and the aging Edge Rushers currently on the roster it's important Indianapolis gets this pick correct this time around.

STRENGTHS: Sports a compact, well-built frame with room for additional muscle mass without sacrificing quickness. Possesses an explosive initial burst off the snap as well as when closing on the ball, generating a combination of speed and power to surprise ballcarriers (five career forced fumbles). Versatile edge rusher comfortable rushing out of the two- or three-point stance.

Offers a variety of tricks as a pass rusher, showing the speed to beat tackles wide as well as a powerful initial shove to generate space and rip his way into the backfield. Locates the ball quickly and has a knack for splitting gaps. Plays with his legs wide and knees bent to anchor in the running game, showing surprising strength at the point of attack to set the edge.

Occasionally asked to drop into coverage, showing enough balance, agility and awareness to warrant development in this role at the next level. Good effort in pursuit, showing vision and speed to get back into the action.

WEAKNESSES: Starred mostly as a defensive end for the Broncos but currently lacks the bulk to remain there full-time in the NFL. A bit straight-linish as an edge rusher, lacking ideal flexibility to turn the corner in one fluid motion.

Doesn't string together his pass rush moves well enough, lacking a plan to set up opponents with a series of counter-moves. Relies on his burst and initial pop as rusher, too often failing to break free if blockers are able to latch on until the ballcarrier is downfield.

Experienced in coverage, but looks robotic when dropping back and relies on reading the eyes of the quarterback.

IN OUR VIEW: While a bit undersized to remain as a full-time 4-3 defensive end, Correa could intrigue teams looking for a versatile edge defender, as he possesses an explosive burst to rush the quarterback as well as the flexibility and awareness to handle coverage duties. A terrific athlete expected to impress in workouts, Correa could join former Broncos edge rushers Shea McClellin and Demarcus Lawrence as steady risers leading to the draft.
 
Good fit for the Colts. This is the player they tried to mold Werner into and failed. I don't think Wener was a bust, just a complete wrong fit. He is a 4-3 end and they needed a 3-4 OLB, and Correa is that.
 
I think I can reasonably say that I have not misread the draft order this time when pointing out the Atlanta pick follows bojim's. Assuming smurfdaddy doesn't pull a Lazarus on us here in the 2nd round, what are we going to do about the Falcons' selection?
 
I don't feel comfortable making suggestions since I have four picks of my own coming up very soon. One, I don't want to suggest any of my own possibilities to be selected. Two, I don't want to feel like I'm trying to sway Buffalo and Atlanta toward guys I'm not interested in taking. If any of the rest of you with Jim's blessing want to go ahead and come to a consensus on the picks to get this thing moving again, I'm all for it.
 
I'll check later tonight to see if jrnix11 picks, then I'll make Houston's next one.
 
With the 50th pick in the 2016 NFL Draft the NY Jets select

Nick Martin, C, Notre Dame
The Jets need oline help and Nick will be good future replacement for an aging Nick Mangold. Martin can play guard or center and position flex is a great value. Jets need pass rusher but didn't know who else would be a good pick here as the options were taken a fe spots earlier.

PLAYER OVERVIEW

The younger brother of Dallas Cowboys All-Pro guard and Notre Dame alum Zack Martin, Nick Martin recovered from a season-ending knee injury in November 2013 to turn in 13 starts in 2014 after 10 at center in '13.
He moved back to center as a graduate in 2015 and started all 13 games after being named season-long captain for the second consecutive season.

STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES
STRENGTHS: Solidly-built for the position. Quick set-up off the snap with an assignment sound mindset. Squares well with a balanced base to absorb contact and hold his ground - able to anchor at shallow depth.
Natural lower body flexibility to mirror in short spaces. Very effective on combo blocks, peeling off defenders and picking up rushers. Veteran presence and vision, playing with a high football I.Q. Made all the protection calls and knows how to ID defenders. Two-year team captain with mature leadership traits and intangibles.
Versatile starting experience at both center and guard. Plays through pain with the fortitude for the NFL. Athletic bloodlines.
WEAKNESSES: Ordinary arm length and physical features might limit his versatility in the NFL. Reliable square blocker, but struggles with defenders on his edge and late to recover. Can get caught lunging with his upper body, falling off blocks and ending up out of the play. Not a rangy blocker and needs to improve his reliability as a puller and at the second level. Room to eliminate the unnecessary penalties and play with more discipline. Only had one major injury in college (knee, Nov. 2013), but also played through numerous minor issues over his career so his medical reports are crucial.
Compares To: Alex Mack, Browns: Like Mack, Martin isn't a truly explosive athlete but his functional power, awareness and technique could make him the leader of an offensive line for a decade. Also like Mack, an impressive week at the Senior Bowl could help Martin steadily rise up boards as the draft approaches.



--Dane Brugler and Rob Rang (2/3/16)
 
I wanted to go OLB/DE, but thought there was more value at DB/SS. With the next pick, the Houston Texans select Vonn Bell, DB/SS, Ohio State. I can see Bell playing a ton of Nickel and able to step back as needed at SS.

STRENGTHS: Good-sized athlete to match up well with receivers. Coordinated athlete with smooth lower-body quickness and hip action to transition with little wasted movement. Drive burst and pursuit speed to close well.

Not distracted by eye candy in the backfield, seeing things quickly with the reactive movements to plant, gather and go. Keeps his weight on the balls of his feet in coverage to stay within arm's reach of the receiver. Reliable ball-skills and timing at the catch point and won't cheat his team if he can make a play on the ball.

Not a power player, but plays with the toughness to take on blocks and attack as a run defender. Leads with his head/shoulder as a striker and generally gets his man on the ground. Productive as a starter with 22 passes defended and nine interceptions over 28 starts.

Bell has the hips and footwork to shadow receivers, and that versatility is why he was so valuable to the Ohio State defense (and what makes him such an attractive NFL prospect).

WEAKNESSES: Adequate body type and length for the position, but not an intimidating physical presence. Needs to improve his technique as a run defender with more ankle-biting tackles than you want to see on film.

Inconsistent breaking down in space with a bad habit of waiting on the ballcarrier and playing on his heels, causing him to be run over at the contact point. Anticipates well on some snaps, but then late to recognize the play design on others. Can get turned around in coverage and struggles to locate or make plays on the ball once his back is turned to the line of scrimmage.

Not a playmaker after the interception, averaging 5.4 yards per return. Left knee sprain kept him out of 2014 spring practice, which required surgery to repair his MCL.

IN OUR VIEW: Bell plays with the requisite mental and physical toughness and is active in run support, but needs to improve his tackling mechanics. Although not a twitchy athlete, he is a decisive reactor and collects himself well in space, projecting as an NFL starter at safety or nickel.

COMPARES TO: Tashaun Gipson, Cleveland Browns - The ability to hold up on an island in both man and zone coverages, Bell plays with a decisive reactor and collects himself well in space to make plays, drawing similarities to the Browns opportunistic safety.

--Dane Brugler (2/10/16)
 
Darn...Came that close to getting the steal of the century with Coleman for Cincy late in the 2nd round. (He was in strong consideration back at 24!) I have to work in the morning, so don't panic if my pick comes up.
 
Redskins select Yannick Ngakoue, LB-Maryland

Skins need to keep improving their back 7, and defense overall. Last year they lacked a true pass rusher after the departure of Brian Orakpo in free agency.

This will help Ryan Kerrigans numbers and disguise some of the deficiencies at CB
 
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