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30 For 30: Nature Boy

I have the DVR set. I was a Nature Boy fan back in the day when WTBS would broadcast WCW up here in WWF territory.

My friends and I have always rooted for the bad guys, and Flair was the perfect wrestler to get under everyone's skin.

Loved it when he showed up in the WWF with the real world's championship belt.

I guess the 30 for 30 digs into his womanizing and being a deadbeat father, it will show the good and bad behind the scenes Rick Flair.

Woooooooooooooo.
 
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I have the DVR set. I was a Nature Boy fan back in the day when WTBS would broadcast WCW up here in WWF territory.

My friends and I have always rooted for the bad guys, and Flair was the perfect wrestler to get under everyone's skin.

Loved it when he showed up in the WWF with the real world's championship belt.

I guess the 30 for 30 digs into his womanizing and being a deadbeat father, it will show the good and bad behind the scenes Rick Flair.

Woooooooooooooo.

And pretty serous alcoholism
 
I have the DVR set. I was a Nature Boy fan back in the day when WTBS would broadcast WCW up here in WWF territory.

My friends and I have always rooted for the bad guys, and Flair was the perfect wrestler to get under everyone's skin.

Loved it when he showed up in the WWF with the real world's championship belt.

I guess the 30 for 30 digs into his womanizing and being a deadbeat father, it will show the good and bad behind the scenes Rick Flair.

Woooooooooooooo.
 
Looking forward to this. 30 for 30 is almost always pretty great.

I'm not the worlds biggest wrestling fan, watched it intently for several years as a kid, and then for a few years around 1999-2000. I watch Lucha Underground sometimes with my son now, but other than that I'm not wrestling guy.

However, while I don't watch it much, I find wrestling endlessly fascinating, and can watch wrestling documentaries all damn day. I can't get enough the business and behind the scenes of wrestling.
 
Looking forward to this. 30 for 30 is almost always pretty great.

I'm not the worlds biggest wrestling fan, watched it intently for several years as a kid, and then for a few years around 1999-2000. I watch Lucha Underground sometimes with my son now, but other than that I'm not wrestling guy.

However, while I don't watch it much, I find wrestling endlessly fascinating, and can watch wrestling documentaries all damn day. I can't get enough the business and behind the scenes of wrestling.

You had me till Lucha underground! :)

I watched a bit as a kid, back when Animal and Hawk were the shizznit. But then I set aside childish ways. <just kidding, never grow up>. Definitely interested in the show, I do enjoy a lot of the 30 for 30 shows. http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a55956/best-espn-30-for-30-documentaries/
Watched about half of these, seeing behind the curtain is very eye opening.
 
You had me till Lucha underground! :)

LU is crazy. In some ways it's really brilliant. While some of it is dicey, I don't feel gross sharing it with my 13-year old. My understanding is that they've scaled back the WWE raunch since the Attitude era when I was watching, but still.

What I like about LU is the absolute bonkers high spots and athleticism. That's also what I kind of don't like...it's like eating an ice cream sundae for dinner. It still isn't the brilliant, long form in-ring storytelling and tension build that real masters could do in a 30 minute match. There are some exceptions...they've had some longer form matches that were pretty spectacular. Some of these guys can do some real mat work, and I don't think they let them do it quite as much as I'd like.

And the story is totally insane...people get murdered, some wrestlers are from outer space or are dragons...really bananas stuff, but it works pretty well for me.
 
And the story is totally insane...people get murdered, some wrestlers are from outer space or are dragons...really bananas stuff, but it works pretty well for me.



Obligatory.
 
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Wow, didn't realize it was on now, just switched to it.

If you are at all interested in this or "professional" wrestling, the movie "The Wrestler" with Mickey Rourke is amazing.
 
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I thought it was good!!

Had no idea he wrestled for that long.

Was always very impressed with the wrestling community taking care of him and family, they could have tossed him to the curb years and years ago.

Lastly, there was a brief cameo of Disco-Inferno. I partied with him in Vegas one night. You can find him working as the floor manager at Sapphire on any given night.
 
Wow, didn't realize it was on now, just switched to it.

If you are at all interested in this or "professional" wrestling, the movie "The Wrestler" with Mickey Rourke is amazing.
Haven't watched it yet, but plan to.

Second your recommendation for "The Wrestler". It's probably one of the best actor performances I've ever seen.
 
Tough to watch the segment about his son and drinking. I came away thinking that Ric Flair knew he was a terrible father, terrible husband, is in a bad financial place and, other than his son, he wouldn't change a thing.
 
I always loved Nature Boy, until I learned he was a gator fan. Funny how that immediately changed my impression of him. He just became another idiot from that point forward.
His wife along about that time was the huge gator fan. He put on the orange and blue and was along for the ride.
 
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Tallahassee has number of retired professional wresters that live here along with their valets/wifes/caregivers. That career path is more brutal on the human body than football particularly on the cervical spine.
 
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His wife along about that time was the huge gator fan. He put on the orange and blue and was along for the ride.

Even worse. Sorry, bro....you have to seize control of your marriage and establish some reasonable boundaries. Could understand cross-dressing at wife’s request before i could wear gata gear and hobnob with Spurrier.
 
10000 women?? When did he find time to wrestle?

I highly doubt that is an accurate number.

I would say something like 4 to 5k would be a high number that is realistic. That would equal 3 different girls a week over a 30 year period.
 
I watched it. Very well done, but I would have liked a little more focus on his wrestling career, considering how long he wrestled and the changes in the industry over that time. But obviously, that's not what they were going for, and I get it, for a mainstream ESPN audience.
 
I highly doubt that is an accurate number.

I would say something like 4 to 5k would be a high number that is realistic. That would equal 3 different girls a week over a 30 year period.

You have to remember, these guys wrestled almost every single night in a different town every night in that time. 300+ shows in a year wasn't unusual. If you average a show in a new town 6 days a week over 30 years, I think you could easily be underestimating it. I'd believe 5 a week before 3/wk. The guy could literally have a woman after every show...so 3 a week means almost half the time he's saying, "nope, I'm good."
 
I highly doubt that is an accurate number.

I would say something like 4 to 5k would be a high number that is realistic. That would equal 3 different girls a week over a 30 year period.

Ric Flair is the white Wilt Chamberlain.
 
Loved Ric Flair the wrestler. Not so much the person. It was clear to me after the 30 for 30 that Ric's childhood, being adopted and the detachment from his adoptive parents probably contributed to always "needing" something to entertain himself. He constantly referred back to his parents never really understanding him or approving of his choices. Alcohol, women, wrestling, whatever it took to never really be alone. Sad story really.
 
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I'm guessing his lifestyle was the rule more than the exception. Hard to believe many of those guys lived good clean lives outside the ring.
 
Lots of money, trappings, booze, and women to hide a very sad life. I hope he finds some peace. (As opposed to a "piece," which he appears to have found thousands of).
 
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I'm guessing his lifestyle was the rule more than the exception. Hard to believe many of those guys lived good clean lives outside the ring.

See Snuka, Benoit, the Von Erich family, Davey Boy Smith, Mrs. Elizabeth/Lex Luger, Eddie Guerrero; I'd could go on with the tragedies of former wrestlers.
 
You have to remember, these guys wrestled almost every single night in a different town every night in that time. 300+ shows in a year wasn't unusual. If you average a show in a new town 6 days a week over 30 years, I think you could easily be underestimating it. I'd believe 5 a week before 3/wk. The guy could literally have a woman after every show...so 3 a week means almost half the time he's saying, "nope, I'm good."

Math's off. In 30 years, it would take 333 per year to get to 10k
 
Math's off. In 30 years, it would take 333 per year to get to 10k

5 a week for 30 years, and a few hundred more outside of his "prime" (he's almost 70)...you're well into the 8000s before accounting for group encounters. I would probably round that up to 10k too...he might be overestimating, but probably not by much.

I think it's more realistic than Wilt's number, considering he was on the road virtually every night of the year. Wilt was for part of the year when he was playing obviously, but his career was much shorter.
 
You have to remember, these guys wrestled almost every single night in a different town every night in that time. 300+ shows in a year wasn't unusual. If you average a show in a new town 6 days a week over 30 years, I think you could easily be underestimating it. I'd believe 5 a week before 3/wk. The guy could literally have a woman after every show...so 3 a week means almost half the time he's saying, "nope, I'm good."

Exactly...he had to of been exhausted, I’m sure he slept a lot and took better care of his body than he leads on. I’m not saying he took perfect care, more than confident he had decade of partying 4-5 night a week. But I’m just sayin he is probably embellishing a little.

Even Triple H said he likes to lie a lot, or something to that affect.
 
See Snuka, Benoit, the Von Erich family, Davey Boy Smith, Mrs. Elizabeth/Lex Luger, Eddie Guerrero; I'd could go on with the tragedies of former wrestlers.

It's crazy. More than literally any other American institution, professional wrestling is Shakespearian tragedy. Money, greed, sex, scandal, betrayal, death, murder, rising and falling of empires, fathers and sons and the sins of generations. While I have little interest in the in-ring product, I'm kind of obsessed with it as a culture...it's an almost universally tragic tale in one way or another for almost everyone involved. And it played out almost 100% behind the scenes from the public product, which was viewed as extremely silly and simplistic.

The only thing close is Hollywood, but even in many ways the real life behind the scenes drama of Hollywood doesn't compare to pro wrestling.
 
5 a week for 30 years, and a few hundred more outside of his "prime" (he's almost 70)...you're well into the 8000s before accounting for group encounters. I would probably round that up to 10k too...he might be overestimating, but probably not by much.

I think it's more realistic than Wilt's number, considering he was on the road virtually every night of the year. Wilt was for part of the year when he was playing obviously, but his career was much shorter.
I highly doubt he was sleeping with 5 different women a week for 30 years. I don't believe that for a second. Maybe he had a few years like that.
 
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