From experience if your close to the fire a mask will help with the large particulate matter but farther away what you get is the smaller more mobile matter that causes more issues like asthma, eye irritation ect...
A sensible discussion on climate change/global warming
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Wise choice If only Canada had more controlled burning the problem could be mitigated.
Too many regulations?
“Essentially, you’ve handcuffed folks — foresters and silviculturists — from being able to get off successful prescribed burns because we made the rules so onerous and so restrictive” causing more wildfire fuel to be left on the forest floor, said Sarah Bros, a forester and co-owner at Merin Forest Management based in North Bay, Ontario, who has done prescribed burning. “Harvesting doesn’t do what Mother Nature does.” NYT
I don't know how much the masks messed with mental health. My view is that if wearing a mask messed you up mentally you were not very resilient in the first place. Masks just didn't work and people really knew that. People also knew the doctors office and hospitals were full of sick people. If you went there you were more likely to get sick and the mask wasn't going to help you. Mitigation efforts slowed the spread but nothing was going to stop it once it was out.
I'm not going to argue with you, but there is a bunch of good science out there indicating everything I put out there.................I don't care if anyone wears a mask.............personal choice. I grew tired of posting peer reviewed science a year ago and just laugh at folks now. We are well beyond arguing over this in a political fashion, so I won't. Besides you totally missed the point of not being able to figure out which mitigation effort causes what outcomes. Multi-variable analysis only goes so far in an open complex system.
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I will mention this, Canada has so much forest that it is really inconceiveable that they could do prescribed burn in any meaningful fashion.
Across Canada, there are a handful of controlled burns each year, according to partial figures compiled by the National Forestry Database. Foresters seeking to perform them must go through a lengthy process to get approval from a province.
The burns are generally unpopular in places like public parks, and even more so when they go wrong. In 1995, more than 1,000 people were evacuated after a prescribed burn got out of control and threatened the town of Dubreuilville, Ontario.
In some fire seasons, the duration of the approval process exceeds the narrow window when weather conditions are favorable for controlled burns.
The rules minimize the risk of an out-of-control prescribed burn, but they increase the risk of an out-of-control wildfire. NYT
The burns are generally unpopular in places like public parks, and even more so when they go wrong. In 1995, more than 1,000 people were evacuated after a prescribed burn got out of control and threatened the town of Dubreuilville, Ontario.
In some fire seasons, the duration of the approval process exceeds the narrow window when weather conditions are favorable for controlled burns.
The rules minimize the risk of an out-of-control prescribed burn, but they increase the risk of an out-of-control wildfire. NYT
The Canadian as well as the various Province governments have stated that their budgets for forest fire control had shortfalls in funding which didn’t allow them to cover an all hands on deck effort to control the fires. Canada has far more wilderness acreage than the US.
With roughly the same total land mass, Canada is 23% wilderness versus 5% in the US...............Canada has the second most, behind Russia.
Is Daniel Boone in your family tree? Lewis and Clark (not Griswald)? Asking for a fellow forester.
Now, was that absolutely necessary?
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Almost a skirmish? Keep up the great work with your always interesting factoids about the weather and our planet as a whole. "What the world needs now..... is love sweet love....."
Just know that Burt Bacharach and Jim Cantore are in your corner.
According to our world in data as of 2020 the US has 34% of its area covered in forest. Canada is at 39%.
Other countries of note:
Russia - 49%
Brazil - 59%
Finland - 74%
The highest is Suriname with 97%
Forest area
See the distribution of global forests and which countries have the most forest cover.
ourworldindata.org
Our predictions were a tad premature but rest assured the glaciers will still melt at some point and go away right before we all die at some point.
So if it weren't for us nasty humans, the Great Lakes would still be covered by glaciers.
Back to climate change
I just read where two bouys in the keys measured temps over 100 degrees
Ok, we need way more info than that
How deep from surface are they reading
What is water depth where they are reading
Atlantic or gulf side
High or low tide?
They are trying to tie it to global warming, if this were true wouldn’t the adjacent buoys have the same high readings?
I just read where two bouys in the keys measured temps over 100 degrees
Ok, we need way more info than that
How deep from surface are they reading
What is water depth where they are reading
Atlantic or gulf side
High or low tide?
They are trying to tie it to global warming, if this were true wouldn’t the adjacent buoys have the same high readings?
Why doesn't the state of Florida just drift into the Gulf of Mexico?
Because Alabama and Georgia suck! Get it?
My question is what are the historical readings? Are these records and if so how much over. We see they are above average but that doesnt tell us much.
This makes pretty good sense fundamentally as well as empirically based on the 2009 / 2020 humanity reductions of CO2 production during the great recession and covid lockdowns.
Hard to poke holes in his logic.
GO NOLES!!!
No. I'm pretty sure that side never claimed it was. Climate change advocates say things like settled science, end debate, without question ect... When there is science to the contrary they are called deniers.
Like I've stated before I don't think we have enough data to support either argument. It could be human induced climate change but it also may not be. Were working with very small sets of data to say one way or another.
Everyone is focusing on warming, but there is a major problem happening right here in the US. After 40 plus years at working to clean our lakes and rivers, they are polluted again.
The most important thing for survival of the species is water. No water, no life.
That aside, having had a sizable back yard farm for 22 years, keeping constant records of soil temperatures, there were some notable variations, but this is only what was going on in my backyard.
More noticeable were the effects that constant spraying by someone on the street, had on my honeybees. I made many efforts to get the guy to spray after 5pm or before 9am to no avail. The effects of his spraying resulted in repeated years of dead bees, not in the winter which would be common, but in September and October.
There is a cycle to pollutants, and one affects another. Spraying plus rain, and those pollutants go into the ground water.
The most important thing for survival of the species is water. No water, no life.
That aside, having had a sizable back yard farm for 22 years, keeping constant records of soil temperatures, there were some notable variations, but this is only what was going on in my backyard.
More noticeable were the effects that constant spraying by someone on the street, had on my honeybees. I made many efforts to get the guy to spray after 5pm or before 9am to no avail. The effects of his spraying resulted in repeated years of dead bees, not in the winter which would be common, but in September and October.
There is a cycle to pollutants, and one affects another. Spraying plus rain, and those pollutants go into the ground water.
The algae bloom is most definitely related to humans deforesting the amazon, and chemicals getting into the river which runs to the sea.
Chemicals are the biggie but I agree. Deforestation is having a impact in ways we don't realize. Even though its rebounding in certain areas some of the damage cant be undone in the short term.
Figure 3. U.S. Annual Heat Wave Index, 1895–2021
Figure 1. Heat Wave Characteristics in the United States by Decade, 1961–2021
If you look at the two figures the bottom one from the 60's through now shows a rise in intensity and duration and frequency. If you look at the first figure which is from the 1890's it tells a different story.
www.epa.gov
Figure 1. Heat Wave Characteristics in the United States by Decade, 1961–2021
If you look at the two figures the bottom one from the 60's through now shows a rise in intensity and duration and frequency. If you look at the first figure which is from the 1890's it tells a different story.
Climate Change Indicators: Heat Waves | US EPA
This indicator describes trends in multi-day extreme heat events across the United States.
*a good climate scientist… probably more than one, with the understanding that they could be wrong, and preferably one who doesn’t start sentences with, “the science says.”
Most opining on vaccines, climate, and transgenderism are simply parrots and don’t know what they’re talking about, no matter what opinion they voice, largely.
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Masking of the non n95 variety was a waste of time. Masking children was actively harmful. Masking teachers was actively harmful. Masking was mostly performative.
I think it likely played into personality/mood disorder space features for many people. I still know people who mask inside. Anecdotally, they’re rigid, rule driven and anxious with a little self righteousness thrown in. The mask became a symbol of morality.
I expected there to be a rule where the jabbed wear a different color mask as well but I guess they figured one symbol was enough.
The mental health aspect of Covid and how people responded to it is quite interesting. Long Covid appears to have a psychiatric component to it. Views on Covid correlate with development of long Covid. Also, psychiatric issues prior to developing Covid predict long Covid.
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