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I think you're probably pretty comfy up in the NE. Anyone who thinks that paying those taxes is cool...remember, this is a board based in the South. We think it's possible to have different viewpoints and don't feel like anyone who speaks without "Connecticut Lockjaw" is some sort of crazed "white nationalist", which is highly insulting.
Also thanks for digging up a dead thread to insult me and also accuse me of insulting other people. But if you had read it properly, I didn’t call anyone here a white nationalist, I was referring to the website being sourced.
 
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The Science of Hydroxychloroquine:

Immunosuppressive drug and Anti-parasite
Used to treat and prevent malaria. It can also treat lupus and arthritis.
Has been used safely for about 70 years by about 10 billion patients. Costs about $3.00 a pill

Use for and against Covid:

There are now 53 studies that show positive results of Hydroxychloroquine in COVID infections in the early stages.
There are 14 global studies that show neutral or negative results-and 10 of them were of patients in very late stages of COVID 19, where no anti-viral drug can be expected to have much effect. Of the remaining 4 studies, two come for the same University of Minnesota author and the other two come from the faulty Brazil study which should be retracted and the fake Lancet paper that was.

While I am not into conspiracy theories but why is the drug being black balled by the FDA and CDC? Big Pharma? Low cost? Keep the virus going at all costs? ( political)

ridiculous!

And now there is criticism? against the use Convalescent Plasma with antibodies?
total BS from my view!
 
Also thanks for digging up a dead thread to insult me and also accuse me of insulting other people. But if you had read it properly, I didn’t call anyone here a white nationalist, I was referring to the website being sourced.
I’m standing by my remarks. We seem to be traveling through times where we insult others and the parameters have widened so much we may not be aware we are doing so.
Good schools aren’t the exclusive domain of those in the northeast, by the way.
 
I’m standing by my remarks. We seem to be traveling through times where we insult others and the parameters have widened so much we may not be aware we are doing so.
Good schools aren’t the exclusive domain of those in the northeast, by the way.
Sounds good. Tell Bob Stoops I said hi.
 
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I’m standing by my remarks. We seem to be traveling through times where we insult others and the parameters have widened so much we may not be aware we are doing so.
Good schools aren’t the exclusive domain of those in the northeast, by the way.
I guess Florida does very well to be nestled in there with the very top states for public high school education without the extreme taxation?

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-states-compare
 
I guess Florida does very well to be nestled in there with the very top states for public high school education without the extreme taxation?

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-states-compare
1) “Extreme” taxation is hyperbolic. Taxation in the US pales in comparison to other industrialized nations.
2) This metric is pretty narrow, it’s only looking at the proportion of high schools in the top x schools nationally. Which doesn’t account for, well, everything else. For instance, Florida consistently gets poor grades on how equitably its education funding is appropriated. And generally, overall Florida is ranked overall middle of the pack, usually in the twenties. One area where Florida does well is higher education. Also, is this taking into account private schools? If so, that has nothing to do with tax policy.
3) Even given #2, if you chart these results by education funding per pupil, I guarantee you (bc I’ve seen it done before) there is a very strong positive correlation. (That means more education funding = better results, generally. There are outliers on both ends of that spectrum.)
4) But overall, given how little Florida funds its education (and does it in large thanks to the lottery — “a tax on the poor”), it actually does a pretty good job results wise.
5) Both my wife and I work in education, and having moved from Florida to Connecticut, it’s night and day better.
6) But, the main point here is that while there are individual outliers, the trend is that better funding = better outcomes.
 
1) “Extreme” taxation is hyperbolic. Taxation in the US pales in comparison to other industrialized nations.
2) This metric is pretty narrow, it’s only looking at the proportion of high schools in the top x schools nationally. Which doesn’t account for, well, everything else. For instance, Florida consistently gets poor grades on how equitably its education funding is appropriated. And generally, overall Florida is ranked overall middle of the pack, usually in the twenties. One area where Florida does well is higher education. Also, is this taking into account private schools? If so, that has nothing to do with tax policy.
3) Even given #2, if you chart these results by education funding per pupil, I guarantee you (bc I’ve seen it done before) there is a very strong positive correlation. (That means more education funding = better results, generally. There are outliers on both ends of that spectrum.)
4) But overall, given how little Florida funds its education (and does it in large thanks to the lottery — “a tax on the poor”), it actually does a pretty good job results wise.
5) Both my wife and I work in education, and having moved from Florida to Connecticut, it’s night and day better.
6) But, the main point here is that while there are individual outliers, the trend is that better funding = better outcomes.
This is for public high schools. I don't care about other nations, I left the UK because I was sick and tired of that garbage and I have zero desire to see the US become any version of a European country.

With respect to point 3, NY has the highest spending of all states followed by DC but they slot in at 12th and 25th respectively. At least your new adopted state is keeping its end of the bargain as the third-largest spender per pupil.

If you work in education then your opinion may be bias and presumably subjective due to improved pay? at least, your points 5 and 6 may suggest that?
 
This is for public high schools. I don't care about other nations, I left the UK because I was sick and tired of that garbage and I have zero desire to see the US become any version of a European country.

With respect to point 3, NY has the highest spending of all states followed by DC but they slot in at 12th and 25th respectively. At least your new adopted state is keeping its end of the bargain as the third-largest spender per pupil.

If you work in education then your opinion may be bias and presumably subjective due to improved pay? at least, your points 5 and 6 may suggest that?
With all due respect, European countries blow the USA out of the water when it comes to education.
 
My children didn't go to public school in Florida. I was in education too - and regardless of what you tax/spend, education starts in the home. If your kids' school has a good demographic and involved parents with degrees, that teacher is walking into a room that's already full of kids who have reached first base.
 
This is for public high schools. I don't care about other nations, I left the UK because I was sick and tired of that garbage and I have zero desire to see the US become any version of a European country.

With respect to point 3, NY has the highest spending of all states followed by DC but they slot in at 12th and 25th respectively. At least your new adopted state is keeping its end of the bargain as the third-largest spender per pupil.

If you work in education then your opinion may be bias and presumably subjective due to improved pay? at least, your points 5 and 6 may suggest that?
New York is the main outlier I was referring to. But the trend line is pretty unassailable. You’re certainly within your rights to feel however you like about taxes, and how they’re spent, etc., but generally in stands to reason, and the data tend to show, the more you invest in something, the higher quality than thing will be.

As for pay, yes the pay is higher here, but so is the cost of living. It’s more or less a wash. The union representation is a plus, and as such the benefits are a little better. But I think where it is better is that we actually have the resources to meet the needs and expectations of students. It’s difficult in any job, I would imagine, to do more with less, and to constantly feel like you don’t have what you need the do what needs to be done.

Cheers
 
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My children didn't go to public school in Florida. I was in education too - and regardless of what you tax/spend, education starts in the home. If your kids' school has a good demographic and involved parents with degrees, that teacher is walking into a room that's already full of kids who have reached first base.
Exactly. Now, imagine being a parent whose child isn’t in a school with “good demographics” (dog whistle). The best of the US schools are the best in the world. The problem is that there is severe inequity baked into the system. Due to discriminatory zoning practices and white flight, most people are stuck in districts that lack resources. That’s not a design flaw, it was intentional. The way you solve that problem is with equitable distribution of resources, i.e. spending. Every word in your statement is dripping with privilege.
 
Exactly. Now, imagine being a parent whose child isn’t in a school with “good demographics” (dog whistle). The best of the US schools are the best in the world. The problem is that there is severe inequity baked into the system. Due to discriminatory zoning practices and white flight, most people are stuck in districts that lack resources. That’s not a design flaw, it was intentional. The way you solve that problem is with equitable distribution of resources, i.e. spending. Every word in your statement is dripping with privilege.


I teach at a magnet school that consists of mostly middle class families. We are not a high needs school and our parents have to do volunteer hours. My town in Florida has several title 1 schools (75% free and reduced lunch, mostly poverty) and those schools have the latest technology and extra support for students and teachers. My school doesn’t get any of that. We are always the last to get any new technology of we get it at all. We don’t have the extra support for teachers or students. We don’t get much because we are a magnet school and not title 1. We don’t have the extra money. I wish we did. The two schools with the highest poverty rate in my town have the most resources and the district has spent lots of money updating classrooms and the campuses.
 
I teach at a magnet school that consists of mostly middle class families. We are not a high needs school and our parents have to do volunteer hours. My town in Florida has several title 1 schools (75% free and reduced lunch, mostly poverty) and those schools have the latest technology and extra support for students and teachers. My school doesn’t get any of that. We are always the last to get any new technology of we get it at all. We don’t have the extra support for teachers or students. We don’t get much because we are a magnet school and not title 1. We don’t have the extra money. I wish we did. The two schools with the highest poverty rate in my town have the most resources and the district has spent lots of money updating classrooms and the campuses.
There are always anecdotal examples, and I’m not saying no programs exist to help lower-funded schools. But are you trying to say, against overwhelming data, that there is not a funding disparity between affluent schools and schools in impoverished areas?
 
In any case, I think we’ve talked enough politics, which is against the rules here anyway. If you’d like to continue these conversations or if you’d like to insult me randomly, feel free to message me.
 
There are always anecdotal examples, and I’m not saying no programs exist to help lower-funded schools. But are you trying to say, against overwhelming data, that there is not a funding disparity between affluent schools and schools in impoverished areas?


No, because I can’t speak to all areas. But I do know that in lots of areas of a school is labeled title 1 than they do get much more funding. Perhaps though the funding isn’t the important piece to success in education.
 
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Did I read the white nationalist blog you linked to? No, I didn’t. Have a nice day.
I think you're probably pretty comfy up in the NE. Anyone who thinks that paying those taxes is cool...remember, this is a board based in the South. We think it's possible to have different viewpoints and don't feel like anyone who speaks without "Connecticut Lockjaw" is some sort of crazed "white nationalist", which is highly insulting.
I'm confident he knew it was insulting, and that was the purpose of the post. Part of the group that automatically dismisses facts from writers or sites that aren't "woke enough." Although plenty just do this to release bile they carry around.
 
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Exactly. Now, imagine being a parent whose child isn’t in a school with “good demographics” (dog whistle). The best of the US schools are the best in the world. The problem is that there is severe inequity baked into the system. Due to discriminatory zoning practices and white flight, most people are stuck in districts that lack resources. That’s not a design flaw, it was intentional. The way you solve that problem is with equitable distribution of resources, i.e. spending. Every word in your statement is dripping with privilege.
What my post drips of is commitment, responsibility, and dedication to the job of being a parent.
It was a "privilege" to be a Mom.
 
1) “Extreme” taxation is hyperbolic. Taxation in the US pales in comparison to other industrialized nations.
Facts and sources, please. Especially taxation for school funding or total cost per pupil.
 
No, because I can’t speak to all areas. But I do know that in lots of areas of a school is labeled title 1 than they do get much more funding. Perhaps though the funding isn’t the important piece to success in education.
So, yeah I mean that’s the purpose of title 1. I can agree that funding alone doesn’t solve all the problems by itself, and there are problems with how title 1 is handled. It’s extra federal money, but it usually doesn’t make up for the disparity in funding for more affluent schools (were taking I think, what, $400-500 per student? Not nothing, but not a windfall by any stretch.)
 
Doubtful. Link?
Here's a quote from the article you linked. You have a strange definition of "justified."

But let’s suppose the accusations are mostly true. Then from a conservative moral perspective, Moore is guilty of lying, trying to have pre-marital sexual relations with girls half his age, and pressuring them to do so without first determining that they reciprocate. There is no sugar-coating what he did. Moore was a dirt bag and is currently lying about his actions rather than confessing the truth and asking for forgiveness.

If elected, Moore would join the ranks of other undignified politicians who have been liars and fornicators. I have a 14-year-old daughter. If I caught him doing what was alleged, for starters I would kick him where it counts. Hard. That being said, I don’t think it’s wrong to vote for Moore.

And if you think publishing one article discredits a publication, you need to take the New York Times off your "credible publication" list. Yesterday they published an article defending adults having sex with 13 year olds.

Also, what does that have to do with the "white nationalist" tripe?
 
My anecdotal evidence of schools/taxes is we specifically paid at the limits of our means to live in the city of Decatur, GA because of the schools. We knowingly moved here knowing the taxes were high, because the city placed a premium on education. The difference between what the City of Decatur schools have vs. the outlying DeKalb County schools have is striking, and yes it's due to high property taxes which funds the monies spent on students. Of course, Decatur is a desirable location and expensive to live in, so it attracts people with high incomes and all the good stuff that comes with that. The children of those homeowners reap the benefits, as do the increasingly smaller percentage of lower income families that live within the district. My wife, who is from Europe, has a hard time grasping this concept of inequality in schools. I guess they don't use property taxes to pay for schools over there? Having said all that, I do agree that you can spend all the money in the world and it won't make a lick of difference if the parents don't place a priority on their children's education.
 
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