so you think alex lifeson is better than Eric Clapton Jimmy Page and
so you think Alex lifeson is better than Eric Clapton
Is there any connection between FSU and Neal Peart???....
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Dude. Just stop. Seriously. Now you’re being silly. Absolutely nothing ordinary about rush
probably on that one. I’ve always considered Alex l to be very underrated.
Clapton is a blues rock player as is page. Lifeson is not.
in the Clapton/page evolution of players I’d favor warren Haynes.
rolling stone magazine rated Lifeson number 98 Clapton 2 Page 3 Hendrix 1 Townsend 9 but then again thats just their opinion
ive seen them all and before you say ok boomer i know that blues and classic rock are not as popular these days.I respect your opinion and i enjoyed our conversation.Our love for the Noles makes us brothers in arms
Very true. The Primus drummer is pretty darn good too, but he is a Neil Peart protege.
This has morphed into who people think is a better drummer when it was supposed to be about Neal Peart passing and what his loss meant! And of course how that connects to FSU!!! 
I can make an arugument for Buddy Rich. Even can see Bonham being that level. I prefer Peart. Moon and Baker are great too but not quite that level. Of course, all my opinion.
rolling had Kurt Kobain ahead of eddie Van Halen. That’s.... special.
Just to add (and I am not a musician of any sort), but even Peart himself said something along the lines of the reason he still gets a thrill out of playing Tom Sawyer live is that it's hard and he gets satisfaction out of nailing it on stage. I'm totally paraphrasing that, but it was from the Rush documentary that came out a few years back and has been on VH1 Classic and other channels a bunch of times.
Yes. You are correct but maybe Peart wasn’t as good as some of these posters
He said it was hard? Haven’t heard that interview but it would surprise me compared to his other work, much of which is hard (Eg, the trees, la villa strangioto).
Tom Sawyer was a popular intersect for Rush amongst more inaccessible to the masses type work.
Any way, the hardest part of that song for me is the one note accent that occurs in the middle of a tom fill later in the song.
Edit: looked it up. He did. Interesting.
From the same album, red barchetta actually has a little hi hat snare fill that I struggled on learning substantially more than Tom
Sawyer.
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We get it bro. The song is easy for you. (Except for one note) That’s awesome. It just wasn’t easy for Neil to play it live every night evidently. And Tom Sawyer was by far their most commercially successful and known song to non rush fans.
I know it is amongst their most popular songs, which is why when rush is discussed and people bring up Tom Sawyer, I tend to immediately think they aren’t rush fans and they aren’t drummers. It’s like telling people that playing wipeout is the hardest drum solo. It’s people who don’t play music and it’s the only song they’ve strongly noticed the drums.
incidentally, you’ll find others that cite that one note as the most difficult part of the song to nail.
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Btw, for anyone reading this, who actually likes Rush, check this album out.
dream theater - scenes from a memory
dream theater - scenes from a memory
This was the clip I was referring to. On second listen, I don't think he's really saying it's complicated, just not easy to play perfectly every time...
I agree with that. Note, the little clip of him playing, the note in the tom fill he hits (second ~17) is what I was talking about.
The difference is there are many great technical drummers. Peart is a great one with songwriting chops, he could make an average person get into drumming and that is not easy to do.
"I love zepplin but bonham isn’t in this discussion."
Sure he is, he was huge influence in variety of ways.
Sure he is, he was huge influence in variety of ways.
You never saw bonham Keith moon who was pearts idol nor ginger Baker performing toad
Musical tastes are subjective. I love The Who and Rush and recognize the brilliance of Cream. Keith Moon was Peart’s idol. I’d say Neil considered him a great drummer. Just about every rock drummer of that era points to Ginger Baker as a huge influence.
A lot of Keith moon who would throw the drum sticks up in the air catch them and play with swagger
I really like Baker. I like toad and sunshine of your love, etc. ginger baker was an innovator with double bass. To me, moon is just loud and sloppy. I don’t like his playing. Not really a big who fan either.
I always find it interesting discussing musical tastes with musicians, because I'm not one. There definitely is a different set of criteria involved. I still remember many moons ago when I was a lifeguard I'd get into arguments/discussions with a fellow lifeguard who was also a guitarist. He studied music in school and played jazz guitar, but also was in a pop band. I might actually have his demo tape still (this was from the early-mid '90s during my FSU years and after). I thought Page and Steve Howe from Yes and all those typical classic and prog rock guitarists were awesome and he thought they sucked. He was comparing them to jazz guys like whoever played in Chick Corea's band. Or some guy who played on the cheesiest pop radio songs because I guess the guy was really technically proficient. It was interesting and kind of frustrating at the same time.
We are of a similar age. Chick Corea is great and many of his drummers were a world apart in terms of technical competence compared to rock guys. But, to me, this isn’t a fair comparison.
It’s like saying eddie Van Halen is garbage because Andrei Segovia is a classical music god. Sure, okay. But, it’s apples to oranges.
The guy from yes and the guy from journey were great guitar players.
Because the Rock Hall of Fame is a sham and I wouldn't give two turds what most of the voters think. Most of them think musical virtuosity is a negative.
Saw them live in person? No but that really doesn't matter. They were both great, they were part of great bands, but the magic and brotherhood of Rush is just another level.
You either liked Rush or didnt with theur rock opera nerdy style.Led Zeppelin was the epitome of blues and rock driving forceful Bonham attack the drums Plant sang in 7 octives Pages riffs were legendary.Same for cream.
