i honestly was surprised that florida had fared so well up until this summer really. our population of 65+ residents dwarfs every state but california and it isn't particularly far off even there being about 4.5M in florida vs. about 5.3M in california.
I honestly don't have the answer. I know some like to say it is because they are open and free, which sounds nice on a bumper sticker but pretty much everywhere in the country is wide open. The poster above that claimed "Florida is doing great" struck me as odd consider Florida has reported somewhere around 20,000 Covid deaths since August 1, 2021. That is horrific at this stage in my opinion.
not in the least. i can still happily trot down to the old library in bonita springs to get a course of monoclonal antibodies if i needed to. there are about two dozen similar sites around the state. covid testing is available at basically any pharmacy as are vaccinations / boosters.
Not true that “pretty much everywhere in the country is wide open.” Friends/in-laws visited from DC and the northeast said Florida was like a different country—a much better country. It was most evident for them at Publix and they couldn’t get over seeing everyone’s face. Crazy.
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I sort of inferred part of my hang up with an expansive interpretation earlier. If it extends to covid vaccinations, it extends to flu shots or any other vaccine. An area the federal government traditionally has, except for the military, abstained from participating because of significant doubt about its constitutional authority. So an interpretation making that leap into an area traditionally governed by states would take a clear statement from Congress. That’s sort of the parallel with the eviction moratorium’s intrusion into landlord-tenant relationships traditionally governed by state law.
We have known for over a year that the majority of the spread was in the home. Early on, because of NYC and Europe we thought it was Subways, large apartments buildings, large work places, etc. Now we know it is the long length of time in close quarters with others that occurs in the home. Shelter in place was the wrong move. We also know and this has been known for a long time, that over time the respiratory virus would spread to almost everyone. In the USA, more than half the population has more than likely been infected despite our mitigation efforts and mass vaccinations. The initial plan to "flatten the curve" so as our hospitals did not get overrun was correct and should have been used as soon as we saw hospital spikes locally or regionally. We have done that many times in the past locally, without general shelter in place rules.
i don't know about funding. i can only presume it is similar to or better than prior mostly because florida had to go out and source monoclonal antibodies supply separate from the federal stock.
From the beginning of covid deaths in Florida are 287 per 100,000 in population per the CDC. California is at 181, Illinois is 224 and New York is around 281. As far as the massive amounts of deaths in Florida from August its really hard to classify those as occurring in that time. They could be backlogged cases since reporting has changed in Florida and many states. In addition comparing numbers like this for a short period of time doesnt tell us much since the virus moves in waves through the country.
A couple months ago a Carnegie Mellon MD/Researcher found that to be true and published an opinion piece on MEDPAGE today. Would not be surprising if that continues to be accurate. The fear that children will spread the infection has caused much more damage than anything else to them. As many folks have pointed out, this is the first time we apply universal precautions to an entire society with claiming the healthy are a danger to the vulnerable.
tracking it week over week it's more likely to be accurate than not. peak weekly deaths in florida occurred right at 60 days after the july surge began. @ChiefWB called that when we first began discussing it at the commencement of florida's delta surge and it held true.
A selfish idiot for what reason? For quoting actual deaths without spin or policies to inflate the rate?
So hard to respond to this lack of organized thought and stream of consciousness rant, but vaccine mandates are totally constitutional. And have been for more than a century. See e.g. Zucht v. King, U.S. Sup. Ct. 1922.
No where in that opinion does it say federal mandates are unconstitutional. It simply says that vaccine mandates are constitutional. When you combine that with the supremacy cause of the constitution, I think you get the conclusion that federal vaccine mandates are perfectly fine.
I think that is the balance the Florida governor and legislature is working hard to find. From what I've seen so far they won't tell private businesses what to do with their employees. They are trying to keep the Federal government from doing just that.
Never mind what OSHA did was unconstitutional. Congress never granted them the authority to issue such a mandate.
That’s not what it says. It says “it is within the police power of a state . . .” Emphasis added.
Looking for the part where it says "but not the federal state", but the good news is that we are going to find out.
It okay's the authority of states under their general police power--which the Court has stated time and time again the federal government does not possess--may impose vaccine mandates. That case doesn't come close to supporting the federal government's role here. Asinine to argue the cases dealing with state power to impose smallpox vaccine mandates from early 20th century, somehow coupled with the Supremacy Clause, confers that authority on the federal bureaucracy. Supremacy Clause is not an independent delegation of power. It's a conflict of laws and jurisdictional rule.
There's no preemption argument currently at issue. Supremacy Clause does not grant any powers to the federal government. It states that the Constitution and Laws made in pursuance thereof are the supreme law of the land. It's not the commerce clause. This is a federal agency's interpretation of a half-century old law. And it dives into an area traditionally governed by states (see, e.g., Jacobson & King for proposition that vaccine mandates are valid exercise of a state's general police power). It's black letter law that, when a federal agency formulates rules that wade into an area traditionally reserved to the States, it must have a clear statement from Congress to do so. But even a clear statement wouldn't necessarily make it constitutional. If, however, it's found to be (a) authorized by statute, and (b) said statute is constitutional, then preemption issues (Supremacy Clause) may become relevant to the extent there's a conflict with a state or local law.
Both overbroad and underinclusive. 5th Cir. judges wrote a few pretty clean opinions, imo.
They were crazy valued. They were very very important to what we do. I am working significantly longer hours getting the new people up to speed and will likely be for an extended period of time. But they were down the rabbit hole of misinformation, not interested in protecting their fellow employees and their families. I have an 8 year old son and I have zero tolerance for the selfishness of those claiming freedom in place of looking out for their fellow man.
Lol. That’s not how delegation of legislative authority works. Can’t just be “hey, just do our job!”
The issues are related to awful policy by Brandon and by the awful policies in Cali that ruined the IC trucker issue. We wouldn’t have these issues with real leadership. It is simply awful and unnecessary.
I doubt they were crazy valued. Let's assume that you are the owner or managing partner of a law firm. If one of those individuals was bringing in 20% of your revenue and 20% of your profit you would not fire them.
