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Sounds like the SEC will make teams forfeit who have to cancel a game due to a Covid outbreak this season

What's the survival rate of COVID?

What are the long term effects of the vaccines? (People are essentially equating this with getting a dip tet).

FTR, I'm NOT anti-vax...I simply have questions about the COVID ones.
I question MMR for children. Individual vaccines like for polio, etc. are generally safe. MMR is proven to cause Autism in many children. It's when they combine several together there are problems. And of course this Covid shot isn't even a vaccine - it's a DNA altering experimental drug.
 
I question MMR for children. Individual vaccines like for polio, etc. are generally safe. MMR is proven to cause Autism in many children. It's when they combine several together there are problems. And of course this Covid shot isn't even a vaccine - it's a DNA altering experimental drug.
Everything you post is false or misleading. Everything. Still waiting for the link from yesterday where you claimed "More people die from the flu" (a claim you have made several times on this board).
 
Damn. Thank you for the reply.
My friend works for a large hospital system in FL. They have 130 patients admitted right now with primary diagnosis of COVID (not someone who came in bc of a car accident who tested positive). This is about 400% of the cases they had only a month ago. 116 or 89% of them are not fully vaccinated. Meaning haven’t had both doses of Moderna or Pfizer or one of J&J. This is consistent with other stats being reported from hospitals around the country. ~90% of those admitted/dying are unvaxxed. Not really sure what’s up with the UK saying 40%. Maybe that Astra Zeneca vaccine really was much less effective.
 
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My friend works for a large hospital system in FL. They have 130 patients admitted right now with primary diagnosis of COVID (not someone who came in bc of a car accident who tested positive). This is about 400% of the cases they had only a month ago. 116 or 89% of them are not fully vaccinated. Meaning haven’t had both doses of Moderna or Pfizer or one of J&J. This is consistent with other stats being reported from hospitals around the country. ~90% of those admitted/dying are unvaxxed. Not really sure what’s up with the UK saying 40%. Maybe that Astra Zeneca vaccine really was much less effective.
Very interesting. Thank you for the update!
 
My friend works for a large hospital system in FL. They have 130 patients admitted right now with primary diagnosis of COVID (not someone who came in bc of a car accident who tested positive). This is about 400% of the cases they had only a month ago. 116 or 89% of them are not fully vaccinated. Meaning haven’t had both doses of Moderna or Pfizer or one of J&J. This is consistent with other stats being reported from hospitals around the country. ~90% of those admitted/dying are unvaxxed. Not really sure what’s up with the UK saying 40%. Maybe that Astra Zeneca vaccine really was much less effective.

Texas just reported that out of the 9,000 deaths they've had since February, all but 43 of them were unvaccinated. That's 99.5%.

 

An interesting perspective and concern regarding mRNA past experiments and failures in other animals. I wonder if we will see the hospitalization rate of the vaccinated grow over time due to poor immune response to other infections.
 

An interesting perspective and concern regarding mRNA past experiments and failures in other animals. I wonder if we will see the hospitalization rate of the vaccinated grow over time due to poor immune response to other infections.
Stop being anti-vax/anti-science and just take the da*n thing.: you're putting everyone's life at risk. People are dropping like flies all over due to COVID.




(sarcasm)
 
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Everything you post is false or misleading. Everything. Still waiting for the link from yesterday where you claimed "More people die from the flu" (a claim you have made several times on this board).
I thought we were done with the MMR causes autism misinformation but I guess not. It's all based on a study by a guy who could not find an actual link between MMR and autism but thought it was suggested and advocated for a different vaccine that he coincidentally had a patent he had filed for. They also studied it extensively after his paper and no link could be found. His paper was then pulled and a 2011 investigation showed that he had falsified data regarding the claimant's medical conditions from prior to the study.
 
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My friend works for a large hospital system in FL. They have 130 patients admitted right now with primary diagnosis of COVID (not someone who came in bc of a car accident who tested positive). This is about 400% of the cases they had only a month ago. 116 or 89% of them are not fully vaccinated. Meaning haven’t had both doses of Moderna or Pfizer or one of J&J. This is consistent with other stats being reported from hospitals around the country. ~90% of those admitted/dying are unvaxxed. Not really sure what’s up with the UK saying 40%. Maybe that Astra Zeneca vaccine really was much less effective.
Same hospital system up to 160 now. Hospitals in Tampa have discussed postponing elective procedures again. This surge is very real.
 
Same hospital system up to 160 now. Hospitals in Tampa have discussed postponing elective procedures again. This surge is very real.
Yep. Several people I know in Tampa that are not vaxxed recently got the Delta. Most were barely sick or no symptoms but each have said they plan on getting vaccinated when they can because they've realized how easily they can spread it to others who might get very sick.
 
Several people I know were on a fishing trip, and the one vaccinated guy on the boat spread it to the others. Like mentioned, all barely sick though.
 
Several people I know were on a fishing trip, and the one vaccinated guy on the boat spread it to the others. Like mentioned, all barely sick though.
I've always heard that you can actually contract the flu generally up to about 2 weeks after getting the flu shot. I've gotten flu shots and never had the flu after....never got measles, mumps, small pox, etc...after those vaccines. Why are people still contracting COVID well after being vaccinated?
 
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I've always heard that you can actually contract the flu generally up to about 2 weeks after getting the flu shot. I've gotten flu shots and never had the flu after....never got measles, mumps, small pox, etc...after those vaccines. Why are people still contracting COVID well after being vaccinated?
My hypothesis is that it’s possible vaccinated people do in fact “get” the flu, the same way vaccinated people now are “getting” covid. The difference being no one feels crummy and goes to get a flu test. Whereas now people will get tested if they’ve been around someone covid+ and find out they have it. My co workers husband is pretty sick right now with COVID (he’s not vaxxed) she’s completely asymptomatic (fully vaxxed) so she decided to get tested and low and behold she’s positive. Point being if this was the past and her husband was sick with the flu she wouldn’t have gone to get flu tested. So it’s possible many of us get super minor flu infections in the winter that we just call a “bug” or a cold. As for mumps and measles no one gets that bc it basically doesn’t exist in this country.
 
Thanks for the reply but when I was vaccinated as a child, I never got mumps, measles - however, quite a few people contracted those infections back in the 70s.
There were/are breakthrough measle/mump infections, but those cases were/are outliers. Some people need to actually get a booster for those as well. Not dissimilar to fully vaccinated Covid breakthrough cases.
 
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Pretty safe to assume at this point -- roughly 5 weeks before the opener -- that:

a. COVID-19 will be an issue during the '21 season;
b. attendance will be affected to some extent;
c. games may be canceled or forfeited;
d. there will be financial impacts flowing from a.-c. above.

None of this is good, and it is potentially devastating for FSU. Let's hope the actual impacts are minimal.
 
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Pretty safe to assume at this point -- roughly 5 weeks before the opener -- that:

a. COVID-19 will be an issue during the '21 season;
b. attendance will be affected to some extent;
c. games may be canceled or forfeited;
d. there will be financial impacts flowing from a.-c. above.

None of this is good, and it is potentially devastating for FSU. Let's hope the actual impacts are minimal.
The team must be 100 percent vaccinated to do their part. I doubt the fans will.
 
pfizer in the US for people 16+ is no longer experimental but it remains so everywhere else in the world that doesn't recognize FDA approval. every other COVID vaccine globally remain experimental.
Technically, this is correct.
 
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pfizer in the US for people 16+ is no longer experimental but it remains so everywhere else in the world that doesn't recognize FDA approval. every other COVID vaccine globally remain experimental.
So, in the US - every other manufacturer's vaccine should be pulled from use.
 
It's interesting they are experiencing 40% hospitalizations from vaccinated people. They have Pfizer/Moderna and others vaccines - not just astra's.
Just an FYI. Even if the vaccine is effective the percentages of vaccinated people sick and in the hospital will go up. We know there are breakthrough cases. If a population were to reach 100 percent of the people vaccinated the percentage of positive tests or hospitalizations would equal 100 percent. The UK is nearly 90 percent of adults vaccinated with at least one dose. it is probably a testament to the effectiveness of vaccination that 10 percent of the population account for 60 percent of the hospitalizations.
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pfizer in the US for people 16+ is no longer experimental but it remains so everywhere else in the world that doesn't recognize FDA approval. every other COVID vaccine globally remain experimental.
So? Last time I checked, we live in the U.S. FDA is the National Regulatory Authority (NRA) for the U.S., not the rest of the world.
 
So? Last time I checked, we live in the U.S. FDA is the National Regulatory Authority (NRA) for the U.S., not the rest of the world.
maybe you should be more specific in your comments next time?
 
Just an FYI. Even if the vaccine is effective the percentages of vaccinated people sick and in the hospital will go up. We know there are breakthrough cases. If a population were to reach 100 percent of the people vaccinated the percentage of positive tests or hospitalizations would equal 100 percent. The UK is nearly 90 percent of adults vaccinated with at least one dose. it is probably a testament to the effectiveness of vaccination that 10 percent of the population account for 60 percent of the hospitalizations.
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the most recent UK update, dated August 20 for data through August 15th, itemizing delta variant deaths, reports 783 deaths in vaccinated people vs 390 deaths in the unvaccinated.
 
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maybe you should be more specific in your comments next time?
How so? Everything I said is accurate. The three vaccines under EUA are not "experimental" (here or elsewhere, for that matter) and one of them, Pfizer's, is now approved in the U.S. for ages 16 and older. It doesn't matter what the vaccines' statuses are in other countries as far as Americans are concerned.


 
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