The Official 2018 World Cup Thread...
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I love how dramatic the announcer is, chalking up the coach as a national villain who'll be fired if KOR fails to draw GER.
Will be a very exciting next 10 mins!
Will be a very exciting next 10 mins!
Anyone have an idea on what the % improvement is for increased goals when...
1) A team pulls their goalie (accounting for extra scored and extra given away points)
2) A team is playing a man up from a red card, how much does that actually help?
At this point, should germany pull their goalie?
Draw does them no good, it's as good as a loss. They must score.
Edit: Wow! KOR with the goal!!!
Draw does them no good, it's as good as a loss. They must score.
Edit: Wow! KOR with the goal!!!
Interesting stat that 4 of the last 5 WC champs have failed to qualify for knockout stage in the following WC.
WOWOW KOR w/ an empty netter.
WOWOW KOR w/ an empty netter.
Guess thats why you and Dq aint on the sidelines and are just observers. Full of bad ideas.
I honestly didn't even know you were allowed to pull the goalie in soccer. It actually may be worse than playing at even strength because that goalie looked lost when trying to play offense.
Was I just watching a hockey game? I've never seen a goalie get pulled in an outdoor soccer game.
He was just wandering around midfield. IMO if you push the GK up field, play him in the box.
Of course I know nothing and only watch soccer once every 48 months. Soccer experts, what's the correct strategy?
Usually, you would move the goalie up on set pieces and not play in regular play because they really don't add a lot to the movement. But if you can get another tall guy in the box on a corner or direct kick. Then, if it doesn't work, the ball usually goes out of play and the goalie can get back in position. If the goalie is playing at midfield, as soon as there is a turnover that opposite player is kicking the ball as hard as he can at the other goal. And with this level of skill they will usually score.
I know it's been done sometimes. They don't usually "pull" the keeper like you do in hockey, he just pushes up like that Germany did today.
My college keeper scored a couple of goals our freshman season on corner kicks. If we had a comfortable lead our coach would let him go up in the box (he was about 6'5" & athletic; typically had a height advantage over the opposing defenders). He scored twice & had several other near-misses.
My college keeper scored a couple of goals our freshman season on corner kicks. If we had a comfortable lead our coach would let him go up in the box (he was about 6'5" & athletic; typically had a height advantage over the opposing defenders). He scored twice & had several other near-misses.
So has Germany just not being playing as a team? Just thinking they would waltz to the next round? What’s going to be fallout of this...
To me Germany just looked lost. I don't know if they didn't train enough together as a team or what. I know Ozil has had a bad back so he hasn't trained a lot, and even missed the Sweden game. Hummels missed 3 headers in the final 10 minutes, which any player at this level should have done better. It's hard to say.
As for the fallout, they will have a lot of questions to answer when they get home. The coach is probably done at this point anyhow, rumors were that he was leaving after the World Cup (heck he was linked with Arsenal at one point...thank goodness he wasn't chosen). They will go back, evaluate where they are and move forward. They probably have the best 3-deep team of any country, they just need to get the best TEAM put together for future tournaments.
As for the fallout, they will have a lot of questions to answer when they get home. The coach is probably done at this point anyhow, rumors were that he was leaving after the World Cup (heck he was linked with Arsenal at one point...thank goodness he wasn't chosen). They will go back, evaluate where they are and move forward. They probably have the best 3-deep team of any country, they just need to get the best TEAM put together for future tournaments.
If memory serves, they qualified with a bunch of younger players - the "future of German football" if you will. Once they got to Russia, it was the old guard playing. I think the fallout is going to be minimal, but Lowe may not be behind the bench in Qatar next time. May be that he didn't trust the pressures of the WC on his younger guys, but...
@warriortim said a few months ago that Germany had enough talent to field 4 teams...Maybe they just had the wrong combo.
IMO, Germany presents a fundamentally solid team that lacked the necessary creativity and improvisation that (usually) the champion teams possess. At this level, the other team can mark well, counter-attack and it takes a Suarez, Messi, Ronaldo type player to break through and score when formulaic play breaks down. And the new world teams aren't scared of Germany anymore. As Seminole fans are acutely aware, when the other lesser talented team no longer believes you are invincible you are in for a street fight.....
Or as Mike Tyson said: everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
Or as Mike Tyson said: everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
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Costa Rica is officially eliminated. The other 3 are playing for the 2 spots in the Knockout Round. So, both games certainly have meaning.
The winner of the group gets Mexico while the runner-up gets Sweden.
Would not have thought Germany would play that poorly. Kudos to S Korea for earning a memorable win for their team. It does put in perspective how good a run Spain had when they won two Euros sandwiched around a World Cup. Hard to play so good tourney after tourney.
Was going to say the same thing. He has such talent, but it's so hard to watch him play when he's doing 25yd barrel rolls to fake an injury.
Yea I am surprised he didn't get injured while he was faking the injury. Those rolls were pretty violent.
My only contribution to this thread.
We Timed Every Game. World Cup Stoppage Time Is Wildly Inaccurate.
It’s no secret that the stoppage time in soccer is often inaccurate, but it’s not easy to know exactly how inaccurate. This is unique to soccer — particularly when held against other major sports. In basketball, tenths of seconds can be decisive and are often exhaustively reviewed for accuracy. In football, pundits and fans measure coaches by the nuances of their clock management. But without an official clock in view of spectators and no dedicated timekeeper, the duration of each soccer game is solely up to the discretion of the referee. This, in turn, affects strategy as players and teams that are eager for a game to end find ways to stall.
With this in mind, we decided to test the accuracy, or lack thereof, of the referees’ stoppage time decision made at each half. Using a stopwatch and a team of patient timekeepers, FiveThirtyEight meticulously tracked and categorized every stoppage during the first 32 games played of the World Cup — a total of 3194 stoppages in all, or one every 58 seconds.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/
Our findings confirmed what avid fans already know: Actual stoppage time is a wildly inaccurate measure of how long the game was actually stopped.
We Timed Every Game. World Cup Stoppage Time Is Wildly Inaccurate.
It’s no secret that the stoppage time in soccer is often inaccurate, but it’s not easy to know exactly how inaccurate. This is unique to soccer — particularly when held against other major sports. In basketball, tenths of seconds can be decisive and are often exhaustively reviewed for accuracy. In football, pundits and fans measure coaches by the nuances of their clock management. But without an official clock in view of spectators and no dedicated timekeeper, the duration of each soccer game is solely up to the discretion of the referee. This, in turn, affects strategy as players and teams that are eager for a game to end find ways to stall.
With this in mind, we decided to test the accuracy, or lack thereof, of the referees’ stoppage time decision made at each half. Using a stopwatch and a team of patient timekeepers, FiveThirtyEight meticulously tracked and categorized every stoppage during the first 32 games played of the World Cup — a total of 3194 stoppages in all, or one every 58 seconds.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/
Our findings confirmed what avid fans already know: Actual stoppage time is a wildly inaccurate measure of how long the game was actually stopped.
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