Vaccine mandates for college students have been employed for decades. It's not a big deal. At the university my son attends there is a MMR mandate. Many universities up in the northeast now have Covid vaccination mandates along with the MMR. While personally, I don't like mandates, its not like we don't have a history of them in this country. Given the current situation, I think it is acceptable.
I understand where you are coming from here but this is different. The vaccines they require have a long history of use and data on their long term safety.
Jacobson vs Massachusetts
Not debating it but choice is still part of the equation. The choices are now impacted by COVID. So its play with the vaccine, or don’t play. I understand you don’t like that but it is a mischaracterization to say they don't have a choice on the vaccine. What they lost was the option to play without the vaccine.
I'm not a fan of the vaccine or the covid mandates (for a variety of reasons) but how is this different from a measles shot or any other mandated vaccine? This isn't new in schools or of the general public. Unfortunately this is going to become the norm and required for you to do anything that involves leaving your house.
That’s funny, why are people that have been vaccinated also coming down with COVID again? Seems to me your just spouting your ideology talking points.
This exactly…. Every one of these players has a choice to get the vaccine or not, and if they choose not to then they cannot play football for UH. And it’s UHs choice to mandate the vaccine for its organization or not. Every student and student athlete has a choice whether they want to comply to attend the school or not. It’s the same as whether college players should be paid for play as if they are being forced against their will to play college football for a scholarship only. Fact is every colllege athlete has a choice to play football in exchange for a scholarship, room, board, books and meals. If they don’t like the terms they can choose to attend the university like the rest of us or do something different altogether Many times we confuse not liking something with not having choices when in reality a lot times it’s that the alternative isn’t a whole lot better. It’s called life folks.
Math isn't your strong suit? The risk of getting infected with Covid, even the Delta, is at least 80% decreased with vaccination. And hospitalization/death risk is decreased by over 95%. That's data, not ideology.....
Nobody's stopping them from sitting out. They have the freedom to do so. I wish the anti-vax players would sit out so we wouldn't have to worry about the rest of the players.
Vaccine or loose scholarship. That is there choice. Staff and school has no right to sacrifice others for ignorance of a few.
Whenever a vaccine is introduced to the population there is no long term data. It was the same for polio, measles, etc. No vaccine is 100% safe. There has always been vaccine injured. So, either you develop the capability to understand statistics/risk or you depend on experts to explain it to you. Saying there is no long term data is a cop out in my opinion. But, I fully support folks who don't want to be vaccinated for whatever reason. Just don't expect to be able to do everything you think you should do in a pandemic with a vaccine readily available.
Well given only 31% of African Americans in this country are vaxed, that’s a large group of people to call ignorant no?
It is different from getting a measles shot I there is no long term data as to the impact of taking the vaccine. This was approved crossing a much lower threshold of proof for approval.
True. We don't mind spreading that contagious abortion around.
You are correct. This further process the unvaccinated are not a risk to the safety of the vaccinated.
ALL vaccines start out with very little to no history of side affects. That's how it works with vaccines. No one is forcing anyone to take the vaccine. I can understand any athletic department that wants to require either the vaccine OR getting tested for natural antibodies, and if you have those, you don't need the vaccine.
Not sure where you live……. But in FL we can leave our house and go about our business as normal with no vax or vax card. So it wont become the norm in FL or any other state that has people with common sense running it. I already recovered from covid, so I should have enough long term immunity, and should only have about a 20% chance of catching it again…. Thats the same percentage as the vax. Funny to see how many on here are bad mouthing people when they really really have know knowledge on why people choose against it.
This is the ignorant view in all honesty. They shouldn’t be forced to have that choice for 99.98%.
You still can get the flu with flu shots…. It’s severity not whether you can get it or not. I take it you’re not in medicine
Not bad mouthing anyone. I don't agree with the premise behind the vaccine or the masks either. What I'm saying is that this vaccine is going to become the norm for everyone. This is only the beginning. NYC already doing vaccine passports, were wearing masks again in many areas and businesses even the vaccinated. Federal, state and local government employees will be forced to get the shot along with hospital, school and first responders or not work. You'll have to have a vaccine to travel even domestically. Already plans to require international travelers vaccines to enter the US. If you truly believe in 1 year that you'll be able to go on about your business without the vaccine as you did before then I hope your right. However, that probably not the case. Again I don't agree with any of this but its where we are headed.
