Definitely a shift. They'll say it's needs years upon years of research or it's only being approved to get people to take it. They'll just move to whatever facebook says should be their new argument.
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So once vaccines get full approval you will be willing to take one? Honest question, because many think that shortcuts were taken (though this is incorrect) and I view that as a legitimate reason for hesitancy.
Talking out of you rear as usual. I actually personally know quite a few people who are waiting for that FDA approval. Not everyone who hasnt gotten the "jab" is a conspiracy theorist, not sure why some of you think adding that approval won't change some people's minds. Unfortunately people are so polarized, they can't begin to try to understand some other people's views.
I can tell you that I will not get one without that approval. Chances of me getting one with that approval increase dramatically. If it happened today, I'd almost certainly get one tomorrow. Not everyone without the vaccine thinks there is a microchip in it, just like not everyone who subjected their children to trials is a bad parent.
And in the mean time, you are masked up wherever you go inside?? I mean, that’s the least you could do.
Religious faith is good. I was raised with it. There are men of God - in this thread - who have watched people close to them die out of ignorance and false notions and we are ALL at our limits emotionally. Needless losses.
But this use of religion for a justification for 21st century fear and ignorance is shameful. Infuriating, almost. And I'm NOT talking about Islam in Afghanistan...
Sorry, but that's how I see it. My nephew was just released last evening from the Mayo Clinic - a 33 year old young man with a family - and a bad case of COVID. I do believe our family's prayers helped him, but that is no justification for the fact that he wasn't vaxxed. He will not get a moments peace from his Aunts or his parents until he does. He unknowingly gave it to his Mom, who was vaxxed and still got a "breakthrough".
She had a bad cold but thankfully did not end up in a bed on oxygen in the ICU next to him. We're all thankful to the Lord for that, too. But you know, the Lord helps those who help themselves.
If this quoting the Bible stuff continues I'll ask the mods to lock this thread; don't know if they will but if so, maybe some can instead read other things like unbiased science and expand their horizons and their knowledge. If they still make the same decision, then so be it. You're disrespecting the Scripture and it seems like it's being used as the last refuge of a scoundrel.
I say that with best wishes and truly no malice. 😔
But this use of religion for a justification for 21st century fear and ignorance is shameful. Infuriating, almost. And I'm NOT talking about Islam in Afghanistan...
Sorry, but that's how I see it. My nephew was just released last evening from the Mayo Clinic - a 33 year old young man with a family - and a bad case of COVID. I do believe our family's prayers helped him, but that is no justification for the fact that he wasn't vaxxed. He will not get a moments peace from his Aunts or his parents until he does. He unknowingly gave it to his Mom, who was vaxxed and still got a "breakthrough".
She had a bad cold but thankfully did not end up in a bed on oxygen in the ICU next to him. We're all thankful to the Lord for that, too. But you know, the Lord helps those who help themselves.
If this quoting the Bible stuff continues I'll ask the mods to lock this thread; don't know if they will but if so, maybe some can instead read other things like unbiased science and expand their horizons and their knowledge. If they still make the same decision, then so be it. You're disrespecting the Scripture and it seems like it's being used as the last refuge of a scoundrel.
I say that with best wishes and truly no malice. 😔
Am I the only one who marvels at the thought of how small those microchips must be to fit through a small gauge needle?
Nor have I accused you of being a conspiracy theorist. It is important to recognize where people's hesitancy comes from. And it is more important that you have educated yourself enough that the approval would allow you to feel comfortable with the vaccine.
Didn't mean to imply that, it was more in response to some other comments in the thread.
I can tell you I never do anything without looking at it from every possible angle and educating myself, this vaccine is no different.
that is a patently false number. just looking at the rate of infection that persists in Florida's 65+ age group is proof enough.
prior to the vaccine the 65+ age group in Florida accounted for, on average, 13% of all COVID positive results. Florida is at a point now where 86% of all residents 65+ are fully vaccinated and over 95% have received at least one dose of vaccine. The 65+ age group in Florida is on pace to be 99.9% vaccinated (the highest the CDC will recognize) within the next 4-8 weeks.
The COVID positive rate among the 65+ age group in Florida is still over 11% of all new cases each week.
And what percentage of vaccinated are hospitalized and dying?? Do
You have those percentages? 🤷🏼♂️
And also how many of the fatalities had a comorbidity factor?
Yes they have the same goal but don't do the same thing once in the body to counter act whatever virus it is intended to fight off.
Yes there are a few different "types" of vaccines that act differently in the body. I'm not sure I understand the issue you have though, friend.
If it's different it's bad. Some people use this analysis in all aspects of their lives.
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
Just stop.
no one does it better than him
lol. lol. 'civic duty'. taking an unapproved vaccine produced in record time with unknown long term effects is your idea of civic duty. what a crock. you got the vaccine because of your concern for your fellow man. of course you did. this is from someone who got the vaccine but acting like its a fundamental duty of every american to take it is just asinine. my god, what foolishness.
^^bullseye.
It is a basic civic duty. We are all facing something HIGHLY contagious and deadly for hundreds of thousands! The BEST defense against this worldwide pandemic is the vaccine regardless of what you may read on a message board or in your case probably the dark web.
you get real passionate when it comes to me. Get me out of your head man and move along 🤣
Its a joke Smelson. Like the one we told eons ago; "so I transferred to FU from Florida State, and raised the GPA of both student bodies by over 1%."
never said or inferred it wasn't. and i got the vaccine. you sound like a politician reading from a script. two questions; 1. do you get the flu shot every year? 2. should women have the right to an abortion?
Definitely not anything close to a politician. And I’m not dodging your question but you’ve insulted me enough on here that I don’t feel obligated to answer any questions you have.
my view on the vaccine is purely health and life related. Nothing to do with anything political.
the overwhelming percentage of health experts say you should get it. So I trust them. That’s why I got it and that’s why I feel people who don’t get it are selfish unless there is a real medical reason they cannot.
The figures provided by Ascension St. Vincents this afternoon...96% of ICU COVID cases...unvaccinated. They did not break it out by age group.
the prior poster had said "all cases" which is what my comment was in response to, not hospitalizations. of course where unvaccinated is concerned that does include all people that are not 14 days post second shot (or only shot for J&J).
it's quite frustrating that the CDC won't break the data down by jab status like they do everywhere else.
lol. that's hysterical coming from someone like you who's habitually in some type of negative communication with a poster every week. if posts on a message board insult you, than you have a very frail psyche. you need to take a break from this forum because its obvious the rigors of a message board are greater than your emotional fortitude. my apologies for all the emotional distress my posts have had on your mental well being. i will pray for you.
"But we shouldn’t shun people who have recovered from Covid. Vaccine mandates for in-person interactions—whether imposed by governments, employers or businesses—should make exceptions for the previously infected, who thanks to natural mucosal immunity are likely at less risk than never-infected vaccinated people of spreading the virus to others."
Dr. Segal is a neurologist and neuroscientist.
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Dr. Segal is a neurologist and neuroscientist.
Follow Your Nose to Herd Immunity
The biology behind ‘breakthrough’ cases and the confusing CDC mask guidance.
Opinion | Follow Your Nose to Herd Immunity
The biology behind ‘breakthrough’ cases and the confusing CDC mask guidance.
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Florida is in top half of vaccines. Desantis put together one of the most efficient plan to get the vaccine out. He’s vaxxed. He’s recommended citizens get vaccinated. Everyone in Florida who wants it could have had it by now.
So what’s your issue? And are you embarrassed by Hawaii too? Will you be embarrassed by other states when they spike?
The plan worked in spite of Desantis and his willingness to shift early doses to his wealthy supporters instead of the seniors that needed it.
highly unlikely. miami dade is the only county i have found that provides a relatively detailed weekly report. miami dade is significantly vaccinated. 92% of adults in the county have had at least 1 shot and 99.9% of those 65+ have had at least one shot.
I presume you don’t live here. Your FSU card has just been revoked. We are over half vaxxed and the DeSantis Donor MYTH has been debunked,
You have zero clue. Absolutely zero. His rollout took care of all the groups as well as they could. And we’ve been at anyone can get the shot at any time for 4-5 months. Even if we assume your made yo story, it would have ZERO impact on today’s numbers so it’s clear you just don’t like him. Which will make it hard when he’s your president 🤣
And only reason not fully vaxxed is people’s choice. Literally everyone who wants it could have had it by now.
Just curious if all that was to explain why we wouldn’t see those numbers or of it was a short answer then discussion of other issues.
Anyway I don’t see at all why they’d report vaccine breakthroughs but not natural immunity breakthroughs.
