Arrest made in FSU Law Prof Dan Markel murder case

[GE Nole]

Is the ex-wife hot? I can't tell. In some pictures she looks very plain, and in a few she looks smoking hot, and in most she looks law school hot (which is real world 5 or 6). If I can get some confirmation on this, then it will go a long way to whether or not I think she is guilty.

I always thought she was pretty attractive when I was at the Law School. Not like a VS model or anything, but not just "law school hot" either. And to be quite candid, the law school had some smoking hot students, so not sure that comment is justified at FSU.

Personally, I've always thought it was her family, but not her. I was around her a couple times when she was with her kids and Prof. Markel and she genuinely adored the kids and how happy they were with her and him. Their marriage didn't work, but I just can't see her wanting to have her kids grow up without a dad at all.

 

[mutoey]

I always thought she was pretty attractive when I was at the Law School. Not like a VS model or anything, but not just "law school hot" either. And to be quite candid, the law school had some smoking hot students, so not sure that comment is justified at FSU.

Personally, I've always thought it was her family, but not her. I was around her a couple times when she was with her kids and Prof. Markel and she genuinely adored the kids and how happy they were with her and him. Their marriage didn't work, but I just can't see her wanting to have her kids grow up without a dad at all.

I attended FSU Law School too, in the late 2000s, and there were a few smoking hot students, but a lot of "law school" hot students (girls that are very average in any other setting, but become more attractive the longer you only encounter them). The comment is justified at any top level law school. From the pictures I have seen, she does appear to be somewhat attractive. Definitely a law school 9.

 

[trefeet]

I wouldn't think the wife did it. If there was any $$ to have she would have received it in the divorce unless he had a huge life insurance policy. A quick public record search shows the house was sold after the murder and the money went into a guardianship for the kids so she didn't get that money.

 

[montconole]

I wouldn't think the wife did it. If there was any $$ to have she would have received it in the divorce unless he had a huge life insurance policy. A quick public record search shows the house was sold after the murder and the money went into a guardianship for the kids so she didn't get that money.

It wasn't about the money. She and her mother wanted the kids in South Florida and Markel objected.

 

[ericram]

I wouldn't think the wife did it. If there was any $$ to have she would have received it in the divorce unless he had a huge life insurance policy. A quick public record search shows the house was sold after the murder and the money went into a guardianship for the kids so she didn't get that money.

Wasn't about the money. It was about being able to take the kids out of town. They had joint custody.

 

[Scalphunter]

TPD releases new probable cause reports in Markel murder case

http://www.wctv.tv/content/news/TPD...-reports-in-Markel-murder-case-392817091.html

 

[amicusnole]

Meggs should not only be booted from office, he should be disbarred.

 

[MIKE_G]

So now Meggs doesn't want to prosecute a case based on"flimsy" evidence? Just put some FSU gear on the Adelsons and he'll change his tune.

 

[ericram]

TPD releases new probable cause reports in Markel murder case

http://www.wctv.tv/content/news/TPD...-reports-in-Markel-murder-case-392817091.html

Meggs is a worthless prick. Obviously a murder for hire. Why on earth would these 2 guys kill Markel?

Meggs continued to say, "What a police officer believes does not count for anything. It's what is your evidence, what testimony, who's going to testify about what you believe. Because you can't testify what you believe."

 

[noleclone2]

Meggs is a worthless prick. Obviously a murder for hire. Why on earth would these 2 guys kill Markel?

Meggs continued to say, "What a police officer believes does not count for anything. It's what is your evidence, what testimony, who's going to testify about what you believe. Because you can't testify what you believe."

Honestly, I get him thinking this and we all really know it at this point since they have not been charged. But why on earth is he saying this to the press. Is this standard procedure in an investigation like this? To come off as sympathetic and worried about the impact to the family seems weird...

I am just a Geologist who did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express but I am thinking a better response would be "I can't comment on why charges were not brought yet since this remains an ongoing investigation and due to the other ongoing prosecution"

 

[FSUTribe76]

Meggs should not only be booted from office, he should be disbarred.

I disagree with the disbarment unless there's some evidence he's on the take or otherwise abusing his office. But he's a truly horrible state attorney and has been for quite some time. The fact he's still in office is shameful.

 

[Lemon Thrower]

"I can't comment on why charges were not brought yet since this remains an ongoing investigation and due to the other ongoing prosecution"

His main role is to make the political decision of whether to prosecute or not. So its appropriate for him to make that call and comment on why he made the call that he did.

But he is making the wrong call. Its incumbent upon the press to ask him why he can't prove a murder for hire and what he thinks these guys' motive was if it wasn't murder for hire. Basically he's saying he's incompetent, he can't prove it, and therefore its appropriate to not bring the case. Yes, that is logical, but its inconsistent with his prior prosecutions and he should be taken to task for not prosecuting the murder for hire.

 

[noleclone2]

I guess I don't get why he has to explain "why" no charges given the ongoing prosecution of a murder for hire plot. It seems akin to shooting off your foot. Seems he can just say he can't comment. And drop an "at this time" in there. Instead he rambles and acts like it is a final call. It seems like it would weaken the other cases and perhaps embolden them more to therefore not spill the beans in hopes that they have no way to prove the motive.

 

[Fijimn]

His main role is to make the political decision of whether to prosecute or not. So its appropriate for him to make that call and comment on why he made the call that he did.

But he is making the wrong call. Its incumbent upon the press to ask him why he can't prove a murder for hire and what he thinks these guys' motive was if it wasn't murder for hire. Basically he's saying he's incompetent, he can't prove it, and therefore its appropriate to not bring the case. Yes, that is logical, but its inconsistent with his prior prosecutions and he should be taken to task for not prosecuting the murder for hire.

He has no evidence of the conspiracy or agreement. If no one is confessing, then what is the evidence of the conspiracy to overcome reasonable doubt. I'm not saying that Meggs is a superstar, but people should be educated regarding what it takes to obtain a conviction. The accused are not testifying.

 

[amicusnole]

I disagree with the disbarment unless there's some evidence he's on the take or otherwise abusing his office. But he's a truly horrible state attorney and has been for quite some time. The fact he's still in office is shameful.

Hyperbole on my part, but maybe not too far over the top. The ethical rules require a modicum of competence. He is so incompetent as to be unfit to practice law, much less be a sitting state attorney.

 

[amicusnole]

He has no evidence of the conspiracy or agreement. If no one is confessing, then what is the evidence of the conspiracy to overcome reasonable doubt. I'm not saying that Meggs is a superstar, but people should be educated regarding what it takes to obtain a conviction. The accused are not testifying.

He has evidence, perhaps insufficient evidence, but he has evidence. Especially as to Charles Adelson. I'm not necessarily taking issue with his decision not to prosecute at this time, but I strongly disagree with him making public statements like he did. He has now told the hitmen and their counsel that their testimony is absolutely indispensable to prosecuting the mastermind of the murder. Which means they can name their price for their testimony. Now their counsel likely had a good idea of this, anyway, but running his mouth certainly didn't help matters.

 

[FSUTribe76]

He has evidence, perhaps insufficient evidence, but he has evidence. Especially as to Charles Adelson. I'm not necessarily taking issue with his decision not to prosecute at this time, but I strongly disagree with him making public statements like he did. He has now told the hitmen and their counsel that their testimony is absolutely indispensable to prosecuting the mastermind of the murder. Which means they can name their price for their testimony. Now their counsel likely had a good idea of this, anyway, but running his mouth certainly didn't help matters.

Now this part is true. There is no doubt that not only have prosecutors moved forward with far shakier evidence but HIS prosecutors have moved forward with far shakier evidence.

 

[Random_John]

Did Meggs and Dan Markel know each other?

 

[Random_John]

Now this part is true. There is no doubt that not only have prosecutors moved forward with far shakier evidence but HIS prosecutors have moved forward with far shakier evidence.

Brendan Dassey was arrested on far, far less.

 

[MIKE_G]

I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I was struck by the different tone in his remarks to the media on why he chose not to prosecute this case versus the remarks he made regarding his decision not to prosecute the Jameis case. With Jameis, it was clear he wanted to prosecute, looked for ANYTHING he could find to bring charges, and seemed disappointed that he couldn't. Contrast that with the Markel case and he seems to be mocking the evidence presented by the TPD as not worthy of his time. Am I off base? I feel like he was convinced Jameis was guilty but just didn't have the smoking gun he needed, whereas he sounds incredulous that the Adelsons could have played any part in the murder of Dan Markel. The evidence seems as strong against the Adelsons as he had on Winston to me.

 

[Lemon Thrower]

He has evidence, and while it might be fair to say he probably doesn't have enough to get a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt, that is different from ridiculing the theory. He should be developing that evidence.

Look at the Jon Benet Ramsey case. The prosecutors didn't just say we're giving up because we don't have enough evidence to prosecute.

when there is a murder for hire, there are usually payments and communications that are evidence of the hire. It is implausible to say that this was not a murder for hire, since those arrested didn't have a motive. Its also implausible to say that no evidence exists.

 

[funksouljon]

I guess I don't get why he has to explain "why" no charges given the ongoing prosecution of a murder for hire plot. It seems akin to shooting off your foot. Seems he can just say he can't comment.

Because these days people in general and the media both seem to feel they are owed an explanation for anything and everything. Speaking generically, everyone is an expert at everything, even when they have no knowledge, or worse, have wrong knowledge they are convinced is correct. See pretty much any conversation about the first amendment.

You owe me an answer!!!!

 

[montconole]

Why haven't these guys turned yet? Maybe the one guy has allegiance because Charles could still be supporting his ex-wife but what is keeping the Latin King from making the deal?

And $15K to kill someone? Is it worth the risk?

 

[noleclone2]

Why haven't these guys turned yet? Maybe the one guy has allegiance because Charles could still be supporting his ex-wife but what is keeping the Latin King from making the deal?

And $15K to kill someone? Is it worth the risk?

From all these stories, it is shocking how little it takes to find someone to kill somebody for you. Maybe depressing is a better word..

 

[FSUTribe76]

Why haven't these guys turned yet? Maybe the one guy has allegiance because Charles could still be supporting his ex-wife but what is keeping the Latin King from making the deal?

And $15K to kill someone? Is it worth the risk?

I don't know if I can find it again but the FBI tracked the average price of contract killings and it was shockingly low. $15k was on the high side.

The moral is...don't piss off your business partners and/or wife.

 

[West Duval Nole]

I don't know if I can find it again but the FBI tracked the average price of contract killings and it was shockingly low. $15k was on the high side.

The moral is...don't piss off your business partners and/or wife.

Good luck never pissing off your wife! It doesn't matter what you do, it is bound to happen.

 

[FSUTribe76]

Good luck never pissing off your wife! It doesn't matter what you do, it is bound to happen.

Well let's hope she always likes having $5k more than she hates you otherwise sayonara.

 

[FSUTribe76]

So I couldn't quickly find the American study again. But there's an Australian study that said in Oz the average contract killing was $15k as some people really overpaid but the median price $9k.

I'm pretty sure I remember the American prices being around $10k average and $5k median as our economy isn't as good and there's a plethora of wannabe and real killers here

 

[funksouljon]

there's a plethora of wannabe and real killers here

By here do you mean warchant or did you intend to post this on gatorchatter.com ?

 

[FSUTribe76]

By here do you mean warchant or did you intend to post this on gatorchatter.com ?

I meant Murica in general. But I'm sure the Gators contribute a substantially larger percentage.

 

[Bill From Tampa]

I'm pretty sure I remember the American prices being around $10k average and $5k median as our economy isn't as good and there's a plethora of wannabe and real killers here

If that is true then inflation has not caught up to that "industry". I recall an episode of Miami Vice where $10K was the price of a contracted killing.

 

[FSUTribe76]

If that is true then inflation has not caught up to that "industry". I recall an episode of Miami Vice where $10K was the price of a contracted killing.

Well that may have been the accurate price in glamorous 80s cokefueled Miami. But we're talking Pahokee and Crawfordville prices as well. In the Australian study the lowest accepted contract hit was $250.

I'm definitely not pointing that part out to my wife. $250 richer and putting up with me versus my life insurance plan....I don't like my chances.

 

[MIKE_G]

The moral is...don't piss off your Italian business partners and/or wife.

So I couldn't quickly find the American study again. But there's an Australian study that said in Oz the average contract killing was $15k as some people really overpaid but the median price $9k.

I'm pretty sure I remember the American prices being around $10k average and $5k median as our economy isn't as good and there's a plethora of wannabe and real killers here

So now I gotta figure out if it's worth it to fly my wife to Australia or fly in a contract killer from there. What's the exchange rate on Aussie dollars to U.S. dollars? I was hoping there'd be no math...

 

[FSU_Nole_Girl]

This story will be on 20/20 Friday night.

 

[JohnnieHolmesNole]

I know some guys around Wildwood who would kill anyone for a few cases of beer and some new tires for their trucks. Not kidding.

 

[amicusnole]

So now Willie Meggs tells the Democrat that if TPD arrests any Adelson, prepare to be sued for false arrest. Does he represent the Adelsons or the people? Hard to tell.

 

[ericram]

Meggs is an idiot. He loves the spotlight. Cannot wait for him to retire.

 

[dero316]

Meggs is an idiot. He loves the spotlight. Cannot wait for him to retire.

Should be less than 3 months now.

 

[JohnnieHolmesNole]

Meggs is an idiot. He loves the spotlight. Cannot wait for him to retire.

Bingo. He is dumber than a stone, and a lazy bureaucrat on top of that. Add s looming retirement, and this guy ain't lifting a finger.....just get a few more headlines and interviews before slinking away.

 

[Superfan97]

The narration on the 20/20 piece sounds like the introductions to a pro wrestling match. However interesting the story, i feel dumber watching this.