This is so damn idiotic. She won't get my vote upon re-election. Wondering if they will shutdown Bayshore too....
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This is so damn idiotic. She won't get my vote upon re-election. Wondering if they will shutdown Bayshore too....
Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://tinyurl.com/w75v7hr
https://tinyurl.com/w75v7hr
Soooo, is the earth really flat? Did we land on the moon? Is Elvis really dead? And who are you betting to win in the next Rocky Movie?
Yep. I live in Skypoint across the street from Curtis Hixon. There are def people out there this morning. I’m hoping they’ll just enforce large groups or the huge groups playing pickup hoops at some of the other city parks.
I was excited til I saw what website you linked me to.
Cool. They should keep following up with more studies. They should also stop trying to oversell results.
In the initial study of 26 people initially treated with HCQ, 6 weren't included because they had to stop. 3 of those 6 stopped because they ended up in the ICU, 1 stopped because the patient died. Those numbers weren't reported on nearly as much.
In this study of 80, the 1 patient they list as "not being helped" was the 1/80 (1.25%) who died. Of those they treated that lived, only 65 were discharged from the hospital within the 10 days (and that's WITH the fact that they said they discharged more than they would have in other situations, but they had to make room for new patients). Of those 65, the average length of stay was 4.6 days. 3 of the others went to the ICU. One of the three was still there. And no random control group. STILL no randomized study of this.
Their outcome was that within 10 days there was SOME improvement in those they studied that didn't die. How many of those would have been expected to improve otherwise? Of those that leave, what's the average length of stay given the loosened discharge restrictions? The study doesn't really say that, so it's hard to know. This could be a miracle result. Or it could be that this treatment barely improves over not doing this, when patients are treated at the level that this/these particular hospital(s) treats them.
In the end, this tells us only that this should be looked at more (there's a real randomized study that should be finished up in April, last I heard). And perhaps the manufacturers of these drugs should ramp up production in case this is found to be really effective they can distribute more quickly. Not that we should be prescribing these two drugs to everyone with a cough in the hopes that they work, to the detriment of those who use these drugs normally (people still have health problems that aren't COVID-19). And it certainly doesn't mean other treatments should not continue to be explored. I'm sure people who know a lot more than me will take a look at this study and see if it indicates any more than I've gleaned from it, but for now, we still don't really know anything from either this doctor's studies or the one study on this done in Shanghai (that one was better designed, showed less promising results, but was still inconclusive).
Not that I expect you'll read this, just trying to get info out there to people whose minds aren't already made up.
I don't agree with janderson about virtually anything relating to coronavirus but the HCL stuff appears to be legit. Every clinical trial has had crazy successful results worldwide and now the FDA just issued an emergency authorization of it, just a few days after Italy and France both did the same.
It's not gonna stop the spread but it could definitely save lives.
It's not gonna stop the spread but it could definitely save lives.
Not a cure but seems like it could keep someone with severe symptoms from going over the edge and dying. It’s not making symptoms worse so give it a shot.
What I find most fascinating is the attitude of "It won't happen here" mentality I keep seeing. I am paying attention to the numbers and watching the videos of large metro hospitals and peopl everywhere else, just go "eh"
I guess it's never really a problem until it's your (royal your) problem.
I guess it's never really a problem until it's your (royal your) problem.
I agree the reaction among some groups of a certain age early on reflected the tendency of younger people to think they live in a bubble of invincibility, but that's shrinking daily.
I think In general most people are taking this seriously. There’s always going to be an obnoxious minority in any situation but it does seem like people are largely obeying the safer at home laws.
If anybody needs anyone to intercept things, please call Blackman. Although, he's not the best with screens.Florida National Guard is now on duty at Jacksonville Airport to intercept and screen arriving NYC passengers. This could get interesting.
"and one million doses of chloroquine phosphate donated by Bayer, for possible use in treating patients hospitalized with COVID-19"
That is that fish tank cleaner that guy in AZ took and died. Must be a typo.
"and one million doses of chloroquine phosphate donated by Bayer, for possible use in treating patients hospitalized with COVID-19"
That is that fish tank cleaner that guy in AZ took and died. Must be a typo.
It’s the same thing. https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-8633/chloroquine-oral/details
I’m guessing the fish tank cleaner maybe had some other chemicals to go along with the chloroquine phosphate. Either that or the guy took an amount that was way too much.
It sure cured his ich though."and one million doses of chloroquine phosphate donated by Bayer, for possible use in treating patients hospitalized with COVID-19"
That is that fish tank cleaner that guy in AZ took and died. Must be a typo.
This is sad and less than 2 hours away.....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/days-funeral-georgia-town-coronavirus-123120318.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/days-funeral-georgia-town-coronavirus-123120318.html
And just think how bad it would’ve been if we hadn’t shut pretty much everything down a couple weeks ago.
Tallahassee has been mostly spared so far, it’s actually kind of surprising.
We'll, it local. I know people who work at this hospital.....sigh.
https://www.wctv.tv/content/news/DC...l-tested-positive-for-COVID-19-569386411.html
But, the economy and stock market! It will, like a miracle, just vanish....it was fortold!
I am NOT saying the virus is a hoax, or not serious. But it may just not have accurate numbers.
Policy MAY be shaped by bad data...
EDITTED TO ADD: My language was very poor here. I won't delete or edit this, but in no way shape or form do I think this virus is made up/hoax. In fact, if you're vulnerable, it's BAD News for you.
Policy MAY be shaped by bad data...
EDITTED TO ADD: My language was very poor here. I won't delete or edit this, but in no way shape or form do I think this virus is made up/hoax. In fact, if you're vulnerable, it's BAD News for you.
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You’re not saying it’s a hoax but suggesting it could be a hoax.
I'll be much more clear.... This coronavirus is NOT a hoax. People are, and will, die from coronavirus.
It also is totally possible that if the death report says 5000 died from Cornavirus, that the actual number is less than that.
Is that better?
It also is totally possible that if the death report says 5000 died from Cornavirus, that the actual number is less than that.
Is that better?
Fellas, the CDC has the wording right there. Do you want me to copy and paste it?
This virus is going to kill a lot of people. Are you interested in an actual, factual number, or not?
This virus is going to kill a lot of people. Are you interested in an actual, factual number, or not?
Does how the cause of death ultimately matter? Folks are dying at a fairly high clip. It's not good. Let's quit picking nits here and recoginize things are not the best right now.
Don’t let them get you down mj...I understand what you are trying to convey. People are just jumping on every/anything to further their “side”.
Interesting. I interpreted it very differently. And I found the information helpful.
No. There are examples throughout history and all over the globe of faulty data driving poor decisions.
MJP is not discounting the gravity of this very real situation.
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