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FSU Team Vaccination Rate

About half of Floridians have been " vaccinated". I don't know if that means all the shots or partial. Surely someone knows if the most recent outbreak is more severe among the UNvaxed, or the vaxed (I'd look it up myself, but at 10,800 feet and one bar,some of the time, that gets tedious). If the incidence rate is way higher among the UNvaxed, then much of this thread is like arguing on the number of angels who can dance on a pin head-- fun, but of limited relevance. I'm sure with the explosion going on there, you got enough sample sets to go from.
Well north of half of floridian’s have received at least one shot.

in miami dade nearly 92% of the county 18+ has received at least one shot. Over 75% 18+ is deemed fully vaccinated. 99.9% of those 65+ in miami dade have had at least one shot and 85% are fully vaccinated.

most other counties, particularly the large counties in Fl have close to the same vaccination rates as miami dade for the 65+ age group.
 
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Well north of half of floridian’s have received at least one shot.

in miami dade nearly 92% of the county 18+ has received at least one shot. Over 75% 18+ is deemed fully vaccinated. 99.9% of those 65+ in miami dade have had at least one shot and 85% are fully vaccinated.

most other counties, particularly the large counties in Fl have close to the same vaccination rates as miami dade for the 65+ age group.
It's almost as if someone has a dog in this fight, and doesn't want us to know whether the vax is making a big contribution to the safety of Floridians. I have read that about 1 in 10 Floridians have had it so far. I'm guessing about 1/2 my extended family there (nephews, in-laws, etc.) have had it. One died about a month ago, and one yesterday (both unvaxed elders) and we think 5-7 more recently had it (the deniers aren't real forthcoming when they, or their kids, go down with it).

People are looking at the same trend lines as I and speaking with much more sanguine, authoritative optimism than I'm feeling about (for instance), "78,000 for Notre Dame"...even offering bets that we don't lose players to Covid/protocols.
 
It's almost as if someone has a dog in this fight, and doesn't want us to know whether the vax is making a big contribution to the safety of Floridians. I have read that about 1 in 10 Floridians have had it so far. I'm guessing about 1/2 my extended family there (nephews, in-laws, etc.) have had it. One died about a month ago, and one yesterday (both unvaxed elders) and we think 5-7 more recently had it (the deniers aren't real forthcoming when they, or their kids, go down with it).

People are looking at the same trend lines as I and speaking with much more sanguine, authoritative optimism than I'm feeling about (for instance), "78,000 for Notre Dame"...even offering bets that we don't lose players to Covid/protocols.
Unambiguously, the vaccine saves lives. My wife is reading a post by a UAB ICU doc. Almost all of the patients in their ICU are unvaxxed and many will die. Over half are less than 50. The vaccinated ones are all immuno-compromised
 
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You are aware


You must not realize there were 8 NCST players who tested positive for Covid.
Four had been vaccinated

Vaccinations don't stop nor was it ever said it would stop anyone from catching the virus but it keeps you alive when you do... If you want to live take the shot... I'm tired of the "I wish I had taken the shot" on my death bed videos....
 
Unambiguously, the vaccine saves lives. My wife is reading a post by a UAB ICU doc. Almost all of the patients in their ICU are unvaxxed and many will die. Over half are less than 50. The vaccinated ones are all immuno-compromised
Are they unvaccinated as in zero vaccine or unvaccinated as in one dose, or not yet two weeks past the second dose?
 
Unambiguously, the vaccine saves lives. My wife is reading a post by a UAB ICU doc. Almost all of the patients in their ICU are unvaxxed and many will die. Over half are less than 50. The vaccinated ones are all immuno-compromised
Are they unvaccinated as in zero vaccine or unvaccinated as in one dose, or not yet two weeks past the second dose?
 
Unambiguously, the vaccine saves lives. My wife is reading a post by a UAB ICU doc. Almost all of the patients in their ICU are unvaxxed and many will die. Over half are less than 50. The vaccinated ones are all immuno-compromised
Dr. Brytney Cobia by chance?
 
Yes true I agree also but, no person with a terminal illness should be turned away because there's no beds due to unvaccinated people getting sick. It's happened I've seen it personally. It's your choice but, don't beat down hospital doors when you do get it.
I agree that the data points to vaccinated COVID patients fairing better when hospitalized vs non-vaccinated COVID patients.

There is no data I am aware of to suggest vaccinated people are less contagious when infected.
I’m confounded as to why that matters when there is a mountain of overwhelmingly convincing data that the unvaccinated are the ones in far more danger of getting extremely sick, overwhelming hospitals, and dying.
 
Well north of half of floridian’s have received at least one shot.

in miami dade nearly 92% of the county 18+ has received at least one shot. Over 75% 18+ is deemed fully vaccinated. 99.9% of those 65+ in miami dade have had at least one shot and 85% are fully vaccinated.

most other counties, particularly the large counties in Fl have close to the same vaccination rates as miami dade for the 65+ age group.
Duval is at 52% cumulatively across all groups but that's a number from a few days ago.
 
I'm confused. So, why are 95%+ of COVID instances and hospitalizations in Florida's recent explosion of cases among the non-vaxinated
Huh? I was responding to a non-vaxer. To answer your question, because people have lost sight of themselves in a pretend debate and are fools to ignore overwhelming data and the immeasurable work being done to protect them, and instead just want to be “right” about something. People should get vaccinated, right now.
 
Huh? I was responding to a non-vaxer. To answer your question, because people have lost sight of themselves in a pretend debate and are fools to ignore overwhelming data and the immeasurable work being done to protect them, and instead just want to be “right” about something. People should get vaccinated, right now.
Well stated.
 
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Vaccinations don't stop nor was it ever said it would stop anyone from catching the virus but it keeps you alive when you do... If you want to live take the shot... I'm tired of the "I wish I had taken the shot" on my death bed videos....
Wrong.
 
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Wrong.
Sir, Even your proof isn’t proof. It states clearly that you won’t find yourself in ICU, Hospitalized or Die from the virus and that’s consistent with my comments. Fake News!!!
I have not heard the vaccine message be about not catching the virus but limiting the effects.
 
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Unvaccinated.

Unambiguous.

Don't parse words.

is the CDC parsing words?

COVID-19 Vaccination

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
Unvaccinated people refers to individuals of all ages, including children, that have not completed a vaccination series or received a single-dose vaccine. At this time, there are limited data on vaccine protection in people who are immunocompromised.

Members of the household who are unvaccinated include: any persons who have not completed vaccination, who cannot be vaccinated, and those who are not eligible for vaccines, including children less than 12 years of age.
 
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Duval is at 52% cumulatively across all groups but that's a number from a few days ago.
yep but 95% of people 65+ in Duval have had at least one shot and 82% are fully vaccinated basically right in line with most every large county in florida.

miami dade is definitely ahead of other counties for the younger population.
 
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Huh? I was responding to a non-vaxer. To answer your question, because people have lost sight of themselves in a pretend debate and are fools to ignore overwhelming data and the immeasurable work being done to protect them, and instead just want to be “right” about something. People should get vaccinated, right now.
Yeah, in all this craziness, sarcasm doesn't work anymore. I'm actually not at all confused.
 
Like Iceland and Israel? Look at the data from India. Natural immunity looks to be FAR more effective.
In terms of natural immunity, I caught Covid shortly after the Super Bowl here in Tampa (no regrets on celebrating that win) and in July as part of routine blood work, they said I no longer had any antibodies. I was shocked and thought maybe the test was wrong so we did another test and sure enough in less than 5 months I had no natural antibodies.
 
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Vaccinations don't stop nor was it ever said it would stop anyone from catching the virus but it keeps you alive when you do... If you want to live take the shot... I'm tired of the "I wish I had taken the shot" on my death bed videos....
Incorrect. A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Data is still being analyzed but things are looking good.
 
Huh? I was responding to a non-vaxer. To answer your question, because people have lost sight of themselves in a pretend debate and are fools to ignore overwhelming data and the immeasurable work being done to protect them, and instead just want to be “right” about something. People should get vaccinated, right now.
Bottom line push all political agendas aside, time we start looking out for one another and we can't if we got crazies on both sides of the political spectrum. It's harsh for me to say but, outside of children who can't and those who are immune compromised, if you get covid and are not vaccinated don't come to the hospital. Save those beds for those who need them. Many will disagree but 2020 has shown us ourselves, survival of the fittest! I care about people but, no longer have time for crazy idiots. Not every red cap wearing person is racist, just like every person who voted opposite likes cancel culture. Those of us who still got enough sense to draw the line at our children put down stupid pride, conspiracies and our fears and do whats right.
 
Bottom line push all political agendas aside, time we start looking out for one another and we can't if we got crazies on both sides of the political spectrum. It's harsh for me to say but, outside of children who can't and those who are immune compromised, if you get covid and are not vaccinated don't come to the hospital. Save those beds for those who need them. Many will disagree but 2020 has shown us ourselves, survival of the fittest! I care about people but, no longer have time for crazy idiots. Not every red cap wearing person is racist, just like every person who voted opposite likes cancel culture. Those of us who still got enough sense to draw the line at our children put down stupid pride, conspiracies and our fears and do whats right.
Bravo, Nole!
 
Bottom line push all political agendas aside, time we start looking out for one another and we can't if we got crazies on both sides of the political spectrum. It's harsh for me to say but, outside of children who can't and those who are immune compromised, if you get covid and are not vaccinated don't come to the hospital. Save those beds for those who need them. Many will disagree but 2020 has shown us ourselves, survival of the fittest! I care about people but, no longer have time for crazy idiots. Not every red cap wearing person is racist, just like every person who voted opposite likes cancel culture. Those of us who still got enough sense to draw the line at our children put down stupid pride, conspiracies and our fears and do whats right.
I want to hug you. But considering the current climate you will have to settle for a simple “thank you!”
 
As long as an individual is endangering others as a result of not being vaccinated, I respectfully disagree. Under normal circumstances, this would be an excellent opportunity for the team.
Those who are vaccinated can still transmit covid. It's not smallpox.
 
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Those who are vaccinated can still transmit covid. It's not smallpox.
Not entirely true. Things recently changed, and it's a good thing! How much it can be transmitted by vaccinated people is still TBD. That said, A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Data is still being analyzed but things are looking good.
 
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In terms of natural immunity, I caught Covid shortly after the Super Bowl here in Tampa (no regrets on celebrating that win) and in July as part of routine blood work, they said I no longer had any antibodies. I was shocked and thought maybe the test was wrong so we did another test and sure enough in less than 5 months I had no natural antibodies.
Did you ever test positive for antibodies? Or just test positive for covid?



There are always exceptions to rules. I hate anecdotes because it is not evidence. But in the last month 2 fully vaccinated (pfizer) guys at work and my own little brother (Pfizer as well) all got sick with Covid and all were symptomatic.

Both my parents had Covid back in August and up til February still had their antibodies. They still got vaccinated as they are quite afraid of the virus and they do fall in the high risk category.
 
For the typical virus, adaptive immune response after infection lasts different amounts of time for different people due to a wide range of factors. Also, keep in mind some viruses aren't typical. As for COVID, the level of protective immunity we get is still being studied. Its entirely possible that certain people could lose their immunity in half a year despite the studies (the studies are promising so far though!).
 
Not entirely true. Things recently changed, and it's a good thing! How much it can be transmitted by vaccinated people is still TBD. That said, A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Data is still being analyzed but things are looking good.
What I said was entirely true. You even admit it.
 
is the CDC parsing words?

COVID-19 Vaccination

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
Unvaccinated people refers to individuals of all ages, including children, that have not completed a vaccination series or received a single-dose vaccine. At this time, there are limited data on vaccine protection in people who are immunocompromised.

Members of the household who are unvaccinated include: any persons who have not completed vaccination, who cannot be vaccinated, and those who are not eligible for vaccines, including children less than 12 years of age.
Fair enough.
 
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