Jameis being investigated for groping Uber driver NEW: Jameis Responds
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Winston’s statement is not clear (which is sad because you know he paid someone north of 5 bills an hour to write it). But I will absolutely take the word of the driver who reported the incident the night it happened.
My guess if he was truly in the back seat that he would not necessarily have seen it to be able to confirm it and also couldn't categorically deny it if he wasn't watching the entire time.
Appreciate your love of Winston but this isn’t bloodlust. The woman reported it immediately. Right away. Your post makes it sound like without a video certified by the Pope we should ignore this stuff.
I’m sick to my stomach here. I hate it but the more I think about it, the more I think he did it.
So you believe that Winston was the only passenger and he was in the car next to the driver.
Exactly.
If this escalated to a criminal matter, with a subpeona, it would be pretty easy to pull cell phone tower ping data to prove a) if Jameis was in the car and b) if any of his friends were also in the car.
In so far as the driver doesn't want it to become a criminal matter, there's not much anyone can do to concretely confirm or deny anything.
I'd prob stop thinking about it as much then.
It thinks it is responsible for societal repairs. Which is why no one is watching.
Likely won’t exist after 18 months. Most carriers destroy stuff after 6 because it is so much data.
I'm thinking he has better media relations people than when he was at FSU, or maybe he wrote that himself?
Probably. But I spent a ton of time reviewing materials in the Kinsman case and defended Winston to many. Hate to see him do stuff like this.
Welp, then if Jameis is innocent, no one will ever believe him anyway (barring other evidence he can present to the court of public opinion).
If he do it, seems like every basically thinks so already, so not much is gonna change there.
Yes like wildfire across the internet. It makes me sick. I completely defended him last time. This one sounds more credible and if he did it he can just move along. But I also know that he is an EASY target now. Him and a femaile uber driver. uber driver says easy money from this rich kid with a checkered history.
If it was Jameis would he not have FHRITP not GHRITP? Maybe she thought it was the President?
So were his friends in the car or were they not? If the girl says it was just him, I believe her. She's not trying to be in the spotlight or make a few bucks. If she wanted to make a few bucks she would have asked to be paid to stay silent.
Sorry but I don’t buy the “i coming forward because it’s the right thing” approach. If you don’t call the police them it’s probably not a crime.
I also find when these women say “I don’t want attention”; they actually really do.
Because if it’s not money and you didn’t feel bad enough to call the police then why now?
Absolutely. And what "investigation" can be done thoroughly without the ability to subpoena?
She reported it to her employer/Uber at the time of the incident. She did the correct thing.
You really do not understand issues relating to sexual assault if you feel the way you responded. There are many reasons women do not call the police immediately and they are not all liars if they don't. What are they gaining from this "attention". From your response, ridicule, doubt and suspicion. I don't think that's the kind of attention they are craving.
Take care of your football money, young man. Probably won’t be much endorsement money. At least no time soon. And there may be more lawsuits.
Perception matters. And the perceptions around this guy are not good. Too many “incidents,” even if they are twisted out of context or whatever. Sad.
Perception matters. And the perceptions around this guy are not good. Too many “incidents,” even if they are twisted out of context or whatever. Sad.
In reading this thread you seem to be bouncing around on this. His statement sounded great until the last sentence.
Because it is inappropriate for men to grope women. This isn't about individual attention, it's about drawing attention to something that has happened for centuries and finally taking a stand, and saying collectively with one voice, "This isn't right and should not be tolerated. By anyone."
The legality of these claims is completely irrelevant. It's a societal shift, in the right direction.
SIAP Here we go again! I never EVER want a fellow female to get raped or accosted and if it is proven Jameis did it this time then let him suffer the consequences....
But in this day and age it is so easy for a female to allege that something happened and profess it to the media, a sheisty lawyer and then the accused is found guilty in the court of public opinion no matter what the outcome of any legal action!
Why does this not see the light of day for almost 2 years? Discrepancies? And why is the NFL investigating instead of the police?
Something doesn’t smell right......
But in this day and age it is so easy for a female to allege that something happened and profess it to the media, a sheisty lawyer and then the accused is found guilty in the court of public opinion no matter what the outcome of any legal action!
Why does this not see the light of day for almost 2 years? Discrepancies? And why is the NFL investigating instead of the police?
Something doesn’t smell right......
And then later ran to a news service. Sorry but reporters can keep harassing to speak for a story. In fact some publications will give out decent sums of money to get you to speak.
I agree it’s inappropriate but it doesn’t happen as much as these stories try to make you believe.
No you really don’t understand that percentage of these incidents are not actual assault incidents.
You don’t get it; it’s the same as you or I going somewhere. People, especially this younger generation, all want to be talked about like they’re a celebrity.
You mean the stories where one woman comes out and alleges something happened, then multiple others find the courage to do the same?
As she is well within her rights to. Doesn't change the fact that she reported the incident immediately after it happened.
Exactly, especially with this “look at me” generation now. And NONE of us know how this works with famous people. This is some go with security personnel wherever they go.
I must have missed the part of the legal process that requires one to go a member of the press.
His whatever social media comment...
A news organization has published a story about me regarding an alleged incident involving a female Uber driver from approximately two years ago. Not really. He was accused in a timely fashion in March 2016. It was his account.
The story falsely accuses me of making inappropriate contact with this driver. That is a really broad and non-specific denial. He is not saying it did not happen. He is saying he was falsely accused.
I believe the driver was confused as to the number of passengers in the car and who was sitting next to her. Sorry, but as I read it, she complained immediately to Uber. I doubt she has the people in the car wrong. She was sober and she drives for a living. Unless you believe she is making it all up out of whole cloth, this is a bit desperate.
The accusation is false, and given the nature of the allegation and increased awareness and consideration of these types of matters, I am addressing this false report immediately. At the time of the alleged incident, I denied the allegations to Uber, yet they still decided to suspend my account. I would love to see the denial. It was in writing, and it may shed some light on all this. I doubt Uber would release it on its own, but JW5 should ask them to unless it hurts him. If it's available, it will come out anyway at some point.
I am supportive of the national movement to raise awareness and develop better responses to the concerns of parties who find themselves in these types of situations, but this accusation is false. While I am certain that I did not make any inappropriate contact, I don’t want to engage in a battle with the driver and I regret if my demeanor or presence made her uncomfortable in any way. This is terrible. Just terrible. It's total catch all BS in case it's clear he did stuff so he can say he never made a total denial of improper conduct. Demeanor and presence is not the same thing as grabbing her crotch. This line makes it all worse.
By the way, this is not the same story his reps were peddling, which was "it is only alleged to JW5 because it was his account."
A news organization has published a story about me regarding an alleged incident involving a female Uber driver from approximately two years ago. Not really. He was accused in a timely fashion in March 2016. It was his account.
The story falsely accuses me of making inappropriate contact with this driver. That is a really broad and non-specific denial. He is not saying it did not happen. He is saying he was falsely accused.
I believe the driver was confused as to the number of passengers in the car and who was sitting next to her. Sorry, but as I read it, she complained immediately to Uber. I doubt she has the people in the car wrong. She was sober and she drives for a living. Unless you believe she is making it all up out of whole cloth, this is a bit desperate.
The accusation is false, and given the nature of the allegation and increased awareness and consideration of these types of matters, I am addressing this false report immediately. At the time of the alleged incident, I denied the allegations to Uber, yet they still decided to suspend my account. I would love to see the denial. It was in writing, and it may shed some light on all this. I doubt Uber would release it on its own, but JW5 should ask them to unless it hurts him. If it's available, it will come out anyway at some point.
I am supportive of the national movement to raise awareness and develop better responses to the concerns of parties who find themselves in these types of situations, but this accusation is false. While I am certain that I did not make any inappropriate contact, I don’t want to engage in a battle with the driver and I regret if my demeanor or presence made her uncomfortable in any way. This is terrible. Just terrible. It's total catch all BS in case it's clear he did stuff so he can say he never made a total denial of improper conduct. Demeanor and presence is not the same thing as grabbing her crotch. This line makes it all worse.
By the way, this is not the same story his reps were peddling, which was "it is only alleged to JW5 because it was his account."
Well I was an assistant state attorney in two different circuits in this state and was in specialized units for domestic violence and assault. Most all research concluded incidents of sexual violence or assault are vastly underreported out of fear of repercussions and fear of not being believed. I have also been to many law enforcement seminars on related topics and never heard that many accusers are just making it up from them.
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You mean like when a person sues someone and then a bunch of random people come forward to get money or part of settlement? Yeah it happens all the time.
Once someone gets black-balled then they’re always at risk to having other accusations. See Jose Canseco life as an example.
Sorry I’m just really skeptical when it involves a famous person until there’s solid proof.
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