My Daughter Got Her Rejection Letter from FSU today
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To the op, might want to check into TCC, they have a program where if you go there for a semester and get a high enough gpa you can transfer into FSU and the credits will transfer also. We had a family friends son go this route.
My daughter has been accepted as a Spring '18 enrollment provided she takes 15 credit hours and maintains a 2.5 GPA for fall '17 at another college. I'm pondering TCC as an option for her instead of a local college so that she will be already in Tallahassee and just transfer over in January.
That's a no-brainer. I would also look at private residence halls near campus so she'll already be assimilated into campus life.
Was just going to post this. These numbers have gone up from when my daughter applied in 2014. Proud of FSU for continuing to strive to be better. I don't always agree with the methods but I love all these kids wanting to be Noles.
Is 42k applicants 6k accepted the right way to read that? And is that just for a semester?
Anyway to easily find the numbers for say, 20 years ago?
Just reading thru this thread and this one struck me. I was in my Sr year at FSU as an econ major and my TA tells me "well, you should go to grad school because you can't get a job with an undergrad degree in econ." Uh...you can't? No, you couldn't in 1992. Well, that's not true. I got a job, it was just a crappy one working in a bank selling car loans and Visa cards. That was a bad year to graduate, but also a bad degree to graduate with. No one mentioned that until that TA my senior year. A little late.
I ended up in econ by a circuitous route. But I came to FSU via an AA from a CC after spending some time out of college with an illness. I discovered that I got into FSU, but not a program. I took whatever business classes I could get into as a non-major and econ came easy and they were willing to take me after a year. Boom, econ major.
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There's nothing wrong with FSU or another large anonymous institution like that, but what I learned from it, and told my kids as they head off to similar institutions, is that it's absolutely imperative that they have their own game plan, get their own answers (and double and triple check the answers they receive from anyone because there's no particular effort to give accurate information), watch out for their own interests at all time, do their own research about their options, double check records and credits and so forth for inaccuracies, etc. And if you can make a connection here or there in the faculty or admin that you can count on, you need to latch on and foster that relationship.
I would never count on a school like FSU (or Alabama where my daughter goes, or any similar school) to have your back, to look out for your own best interests, to give you guidance, proactively identify any causes for concern, make sure records are correct, etc. any more than does the DMV. If you're lucky and smart, you can cultivate a couple individuals that serve that role...but it's not part of the institutional culture and I'll laugh in the face of any giant state university that claims it is.
Which is fine if you know what you're doing and why at all times. If you're not prepared for that, and you don't have the parental support behind that...you can get a degree but not a whole lot of value add. For those students, I could definitely see a smaller, student-focused community as a much better transition to career and adulthood.
I will say, with the internet today, it is MUCH easier to get the information you need to call your own shots then when I was going to school. So many opportunities passed me by, not just because I didn't know, but because I didn't KNOW that I didn't know. My kids are all right, because of what I know about it now, the right questions to ask, etc. But I was not prepared and my parents weren't able to help prep me and keep me on the path.
Just another anecdote. My degree required a semester internship. I asked a couple teachers and the lady in an office how to go about getting an internship. I knew nothing other than that I needed one. I was directed to a bulletin board full of index cards.
"So just pick one off here?"
"Yep."
"How do I choose?"
"Just pick one that sounds good." All the cards had was the organization, the location, and the hours.
So I did. The internship was nothing of particular use or interest. I didn't really learn anything, I just proofread some press releases, occasionally pulled together some research. At the end of it, I inquired about full time positions after graduation...and was told no, there was never a budget or entry level role in that department for new graduates, that just wasn't an option (it was a state department that employed all of like two PR Specialist III or something like that). Ok, thanks.
So I finish that, and my final semester we have some guest speaker in one of my classes from the PR dept of the Department of Corrections. At the end of it, he introduces a girl in my class, and says that she just finished her internship with them and would be starting full time after graduation. And that his department virtually every year hired it's couple interns to full time positions.
What? So did that girl just blindly pick a different index card and get lucky? Or more likely, did she know that was a prime internship for job prospects? How did she know? Who told her? Probably, she developed a relationship with some professor who pointed her that way, or did some kind of networking. I don't know...I didn't even know that was something out there, or how to find it. "Pick a card" was what I was told by some Receptionist I making $8/hr, and I took it at that. Pulling the wrong index card off a bulletin board literally changed the course of my career and life. All I had for parental guidance ahead of time was "I think your internship usually hires you after you graduate. I think."
If you're not prepared to make your own breaks and be resourceful enough to make it happen, it's not going to just happen there. Which isn't necessarily a bad lesson for life at all, but potentially a very costly one.
Oh, I'm not blaming FSU. I wasn't one to seek out people and ask questions when I was younger. I took the path of least resistance. Which is why I got a degree in economics. It came easy to me. I could not show up to class for a week, be hung over, and still get an A on the exam. My roommate hated that. He always wanted to get together and study. Nah, I'm good.
When I went back to school years later it was different. I knew every professor in my department. The recommended me for jobs when alumni came to them. And I actually studied.
When I went back to school years later it was different. I knew every professor in my department. The recommended me for jobs when alumni came to them. And I actually studied.
Ah, I also got a mostly useless degree in Economics (and a slightly less useless one in Finance) while at FSU. I suppose it looks decent on the old resume but I also learned very little other than in my Game Theory course.
I was always a Finance major but I used a double major in Economics and minors in Psychology and Communications to bring up the ole gpa to respectability as I sleepwalked through my first two years at FSU to a pretty terrible gpa.
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The lesson you have clearly learned is something EVERYONE should know as early as possible and apply it constantly, it's not just for school.
It ain't what you know, its who you know.
Relationships count for so much more than I ever give them credit.
Yep.
Very early in my career a marketing consultant my firm used had the slogan "Be well known to the people that matter"
I adopted that it then and there.
Anyone else think it would be fun to go back and take your same classes, with the knowledge and maturity you have now?
Not fun, but I would blow through them like cake. I mean the whole reason I got the 1.9 my first two years was because I'd ace the tests without doing anything more than scanning through the book the night before and then get a big fat 0 for the surprise quizzes, homework and participation. So I'd get a B or C on those where they didn't have random tests and get Fs in those that did all while carrying an A test average. All it took for me to raise my gpa to a 3.8 was actually go to class. Not spend hours studying or anything, just literally force myself to wake up and physically walk to class.
Amateur. After getting a D in international econ because of not doing any homework I used FSU's one forgiveness policy and took it with someone whose entire grade was based on tests. I then mapped out my courses each semester based on professors who didn't grade homework.
I'm doing that right now to some degree (though I'm taking as many as possible at the local CC, which a few grad schools may not like, but whatevs, I'm paying OOP). It's different in every way. I'm far more stressed since I'm working FT, own a house, etc, but it's much better this time around (and I have professors who know me and talk to me/other students and WANT us to go to their office hours). I'm pretty sure I'd be a cardiologist or hospitalist/ER doc if I knew then what I know now.
I'd love to go back and do all my poli sci classes again. I imagine they'd be quite different today.
As a senior in Georgia, I get to take classes for free at any state university. Going to start this summer with The History of Rock and Roll at UGA.
As a senior in Georgia, I get to take classes for free at any state university. Going to start this summer with The History of Rock and Roll at UGA.
Describes me perfectly. And you could totally do that, at least when I was there.
As for doing the classes over, not so much to do better in them, I don't care about that. But it does drive me crazy that I'm generally a person interested in a lot of stuff, including a lot of the stuff I had classes in. Yet at the time I was PAYING for them, all I could think of was how little I actually had to be there and how little I had to pay attention to still get by.
That drives me crazy. I'm not intellectually lazy, or non-curious, so it makes me bananas that I all but blew off classes about history, biology, culture and political science. I wish I could spend my days now listening to people talk about that stuff, but when I was supposed to, I couldn't be bothered. And yet I paid for them for years after.
I also have an Economics degree. When I graduated in the early 2000s, Econ majors were in higher demand in the business world and getting better jobs than people with BBAs in Finance. Times change.
You would be surprised at the number of Economics grads that work in corporate finance. If I had to do it all over again, I would probably look harder at majoring in accounting. I'm in corporate finance and I've reached the point in my career where I'm competing with people that have accounting degrees for jobs. Having a CPA has become the "rage" in corporate finance and I have had to combat that with an MBA and a CMA certification.
My old boss, who is a CPA, always said the CPA rage in corporate finance is an overreaction to SOX.
I started my undergrad at 25 so was already there. Now working on my MBA. Only difference is I am doing it for the love and fun of learning. I get free courses through my wife so no stress except for the massive waste of my time if I don't pass. I wanted to look into engineering but the say I would have to start all over with some freshman classes if I wanted that route, not looking for that type of time investment tho.
It wouldn't be a lot of fun but I guarantee you I'd ace every single one of them. OK, maybe not physics...
College is wasted on the young! But then again so is youth.
When I was at FSU I had some classes with a 40-something who got divorced and decided to go back and finish his degree. He actually lived at the old ATO house. I don't think frat house living was fun the second time around.
Well, he was a bit of a glass half full fellow - he was half way thru his Phd and teaching a bunch of recitations to hung over undergrads on Friday mornings.
Plus, I graduated during a recession. Unemployment peaked right about the time I was looking for a job.
at UWF there was a guy who went to school at the same time as his son. I'm pretty sure the dad got straight A's. It was so funny to see him arguing with the prof's like an equal. He was a bit older, too, even to have a college age son. I think he eventually became an adjunct professor or lecturer.
Then there was the "legend" of the (slightly older) guy who came in to the Accounting department every day literally with a lunch pail, sat there all day every day studying and doing homework like it was his job. He did very well, too.
Just as an update, my daughter has been accepted to FSU and started classes this week. Go Noles!
That is awesome! My daughter starts applying in the fall. She is already stressed, although she should get accepted with her over inflated GPA and first ACT score. I am not sure if I can handle the next 12 months of college application stress!
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