Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
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Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
She wasn't even drunk. She is changing her story to suit her purposes.
She's a ho
She wasn't even drunk. She is changing her story to suit her purposes.
She's a ho
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And that also wouldn't explain how she is texting coherently for all but about 40 minutes during the time in question
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Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
I'm fairly certain there wasn't something in that drink.....
I'm fairly certain there wasn't something in that drink.....
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I've heard two theories advanced by Kinsman supporters suggesting why it can't be determined with absolute scientific certainty that she didn't have drugs in her system when she was with Jameis:
1. The rape kit only screened for alcohol, and she wasn't tested for drugs.
2. Any testing for drugs was performed so late that any drugs would have dissipated.
Does anyone KNOW (rather than assume or feel) the TRUE STORY as to drug testing on Ms. Kinsman? I'm not interested in opinions, conjecture or hypotheses, only objective FACTS.
I've heard two theories advanced by Kinsman supporters suggesting why it can't be determined with absolute scientific certainty that she didn't have drugs in her system when she was with Jameis:
1. The rape kit only screened for alcohol, and she wasn't tested for drugs.
2. Any testing for drugs was performed so late that any drugs would have dissipated.
Does anyone KNOW (rather than assume or feel) the TRUE STORY as to drug testing on Ms. Kinsman? I'm not interested in opinions, conjecture or hypotheses, only objective FACTS.
Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
The blood sample was tested by FDLE.
Anyone who who says the points you raised is a liar or a fool. This is all public record.
The urine sample was tested by UFs lab for every possible drug. Drugs would NOT have disapated in the time frame before collection.
The blood sample was tested by FDLE.
Anyone who who says the points you raised is a liar or a fool. This is all public record.
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It's all in the report.
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That's asinine. The toxicology was taken along with the kit. It's never tested right immediately but it's not necessary to as the sample doesn't change.
It's all in the report.
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People think it has to work like they see on CSI or something and if the results aren't immediate, they must not be accurate. They think blood you take just gets rid of traces of drugs like your body does as if blood cells have their own kidneys, liver, saliva, sweat, etc. Just fools being fools.
This post was edited on 3/3 11:14 PM by Singleshot
If that was the case then those LEO's would already be in trouble. They used the same procedures, which have already been reviewed, that they do for any other case. The specimen they tested was submitted to FDLE in January. Alcohol reports came back in February and drug results came back in March. Then later the samples were sent to UF for additional analysis at the request of the SAO and they confirmed the findings by FDLE. Obviously a lot of people in on the conspiracy.
People think it has to work like they see on CSI or something and if the results aren't immediate, they must not be accurate. They think blood you take just gets rid of traces of drugs like your body does as if blood cells have their own kidneys, liver, saliva, sweat, etc. Just fools being fools.
This post was edited on 3/3 11:14 PM by Singleshot
Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
Playing devil's advocate, we do know with scientific certainty that drugs do dissipate at a reasonably definite rate.
I do know that Ms. Kinsman has proffered no scientific evidence supportive of her "feeling" that she was drugged. Given the status of this case as a "she said/THEY said" case, and further given her inconsistent statements, I can't envision any objective intelligent judge (see, e.g., Justice Harding) buying her story/suggestion/hypoyhesis that she was drugged by Mr. Winston.
Do we know what the rate of drug dissipation is, and when the drug test was taken?
Playing devil's advocate, we do know with scientific certainty that drugs do dissipate at a reasonably definite rate.
I do know that Ms. Kinsman has proffered no scientific evidence supportive of her "feeling" that she was drugged. Given the status of this case as a "she said/THEY said" case, and further given her inconsistent statements, I can't envision any objective intelligent judge (see, e.g., Justice Harding) buying her story/suggestion/hypoyhesis that she was drugged by Mr. Winston.
Do we know what the rate of drug dissipation is, and when the drug test was taken?
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Is it even possible to rape Cher or Erica?Originally posted by Bert1992:
Lol. Not exactly sure if that's fair to Cher. Did Cher ever falsely accuse someone of rape? I like Cher in fact.
IMO, there's only a handful of things you could do worse than falsely accuse a man of rape.
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Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
If I'm not mistaken, in the beginning she started her friend gave her a drink at the bar and that's all she had.
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If I'm not mistaken, in the beginning she started her friend gave her a drink at the bar and that's all she had.
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She already has a career.
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She already has a career.
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All the info you want is public record. Google it.
I will also say, at some point if all you do is play "devils advocate", it's starts to look a little trollish.
Yup and the player hating state attorney had that info. And the media does. If you think that the media wouldn't have written articles showing time she took it and elimination rate and concluded 'no way to know', then you are being foolish. Same with Meggs.
All the info you want is public record. Google it.
I will also say, at some point if all you do is play "devils advocate", it's starts to look a little trollish.
Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
It's my understanding that if the blood and urine were collected (they don't need to be tested, just collected) w/in a 24 hour time period, analyst can detect trace levels (down the micro levels) of all drugs screened for.
Yes we do know the rate of metabolism of drugs in the human system. The blood and urine were collected w/in a reasonable time frame of analysis. Read the journal on GHB I posted above (on page 1). Clinically (in a controlled setting w/ low dosages), 12 hours is more than enough time. Like I stated, folks using date rate drugs don't use low controlled dosages administered at specific times. You're not testing the drug, you're testing the metabolite products (combination of chemicals) that the drug produces in your system.
It's my understanding that if the blood and urine were collected (they don't need to be tested, just collected) w/in a 24 hour time period, analyst can detect trace levels (down the micro levels) of all drugs screened for.
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This is the hardest I have ever laughed at anything ever posted on Warchant. Well done, sir.
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If you read all the reports then you will know the truth. The problem is that a lot of our fans still don't know all the evidence and have not fully read all the reports. She was tested and it showed she was not drugged. So when she changes her story to say she was drugged, then it shows that she is lying. She also was not hit over the head, blackout drunk, or anything else she could claim. I am fairly certain she is a complete piece of garbage, and at some point she will do something else very bad to show the type of character she has.
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If you read all the reports then you will know the truth. The problem is that a lot of our fans still don't know all the evidence and have not fully read all the reports. She was tested and it showed she was not drugged. So when she changes her story to say she was drugged, then it shows that she is lying. She also was not hit over the head, blackout drunk, or anything else she could claim. I am fairly certain she is a complete piece of garbage, and at some point she will do something else very bad to show the type of character she has.
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State Atty Willie Meggs addressed drug claims in his televised press conference. A female reporter suggested or questioned that the lab tests do not detect all/some drugs, and Meggs became visibly irate and said yes-the tests most certainly did look for drugs, and if I remember correctly Meggs criticized as untruthful claims circulated to the contrary.
State Atty Willie Meggs addressed drug claims in his televised press conference. A female reporter suggested or questioned that the lab tests do not detect all/some drugs, and Meggs became visibly irate and said yes-the tests most certainly did look for drugs, and if I remember correctly Meggs criticized as untruthful claims circulated to the contrary.
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I'm fairly certain that the only thing Jameis put in her mouth was done willing and repeatedly.
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I'm fairly certain that the only thing Jameis put in her mouth was done willing and repeatedly.
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Re: "I'm fairly certain there was something in that drink."
I am fairly certain the choices she has made on and since that night in December, 2012 has revealed her character.
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Instead of shoot the messenger ? The messenger that delivers a dishonest message should be dealt with. These people are lunatics.
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Instead of shoot the messenger ? The messenger that delivers a dishonest message should be dealt with. These people are lunatics.
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Without a doubt. Her lies will catch up to her.
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off topic,but NoleFreak, where did you get the picture of the statue?
off topic,but NoleFreak, where did you get the picture of the statue?
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Ignore this little film. It will go nowhere and accomplish nothing. You can't win an argument with these people as they have proven adept at lying, slanting and sensationalizing to support their premise of a "decades old problem at FSU". Hogwash. What's going on at FSU is the same that goes on in society everywhere. It's just that at FSU there's a Heisman Trophy winner to sensationalize the story. Problem is, he's been investigated inside and out three seperate times and the same conclusion was found by the professionals involved, there was no crime. If the facts don't support your premise slant and lie to get around that little inconvenience. Why don't they use one of the thousand examples of campus assault that have been proven by the courts? There's no Heisman winner or National Championship team to bring publicity to their pitiful little film.
Ignore this little film. It will go nowhere and accomplish nothing. You can't win an argument with these people as they have proven adept at lying, slanting and sensationalizing to support their premise of a "decades old problem at FSU". Hogwash. What's going on at FSU is the same that goes on in society everywhere. It's just that at FSU there's a Heisman Trophy winner to sensationalize the story. Problem is, he's been investigated inside and out three seperate times and the same conclusion was found by the professionals involved, there was no crime. If the facts don't support your premise slant and lie to get around that little inconvenience. Why don't they use one of the thousand examples of campus assault that have been proven by the courts? There's no Heisman winner or National Championship team to bring publicity to their pitiful little film.
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I know why he deleted the video, but if Casher still had it somehow, that's the smoking gun and she could be sued.
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I know why he deleted the video, but if Casher still had it somehow, that's the smoking gun and she could be sued.
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Like the douches couldn't have obtain a copy of the police report the states attorneys findings and the code of conduct hearing?
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Like the douches couldn't have obtain a copy of the police report the states attorneys findings and the code of conduct hearing?
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I have always had a funny feeling about the deleted video. I may be wrong, and at this point it's moot, but can't deleted videos and pictures be recovered?
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I have always had a funny feeling about the deleted video. I may be wrong, and at this point it's moot, but can't deleted videos and pictures be recovered?
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Oh but they left a couple weeks open for possible editing. What a crock.
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I'll add that the spin and bs these people are putting out there is insane.
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I'll add that the spin and bs these people are putting out there is insane.
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