NAACP demanding same. They object to any imagery of the Confederate Generals. Wow. Should we just pretend that certain things in history never happened?
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Actually, it isn't; not even really close.That's the kind of shit ISIS does.
Come on people.
After college, I moved to Atlanta and lived there for a little over five years. I had a couple guys from work that I became good friends with and a group of us went out to Stone Mountain one day and ended up staying late. I didn't know anything about Stone Mountain and they kept telling me about this laser show that I had to check out.
What they didn't tell me was the carvings on the mountain "came to life" and that when that happens, large groups of people start singing "dixie" and begin letting out rebel yells. I looked around at them and they were rolling. I said something like "I think I've made a mistake" and they about passed out from laughing.
Hugo Black was a supreme court justice and KKK member.
lets bulldoze the supreme court.
Agree, because that makes just as much sense. And I am curious. How does one "erect" a granite mountain? With a really really big truck to move it into place?
I have absolutely no dog in this fight and don't want to see a Confederate flag anywhere ever again. But if this becomes a toe in the door, nose under the tent, etc. movement, where does it stop?
Example: Does the City of Arlington VA change its name because it was built on the site of Robert E. Lee's ancestral plantation home, which was Arlington? Do we change the name of Arlington National Cemetery? Some of you may not be aware of the details of a lot of history, but gosh, don't let that stop you.
Arlington National Cemetery was deliberately placed on the seized plantation of General Lee to punish him for leaving the Union and leading the Confederate Army. I'd say he was well punished, but who knows. Oh, and he was not given the right to be buried there either. His story should be told and understood.
At what point does this campaign wipe out history? Is it not important to understand all the history of our country, both good and bad?
As a member of the generation full of apathy, and since you are so aware of US History, where is your outrage on this board against the US Gov't and its flag for what can only be described as genocide against Native Americans? Hmm, I must have missed that thread.
"Hey, I'm trying to raise money for Breast Cancer Awareness, would you mind..."As a member of the generation full of apathy, and since you are so aware of US History, where is your outrage on this board against the US Gov't and its flag for what can only be described as genocide against Native Americans? Hmm, I must have missed that thread.
The fact you even try to compare this slight to that of minorities during your day tells me all I need to know about you, how, and what you think.I went to Catholic school, and had to take the city bus home after school every day here in Jax. I remember the really swell bus driver telling all of us who got on the bus that first day of school to get ourselves to the back of the bus cause you Catholics can sit back there with the n*****s
I have, why do you think I'm so passionate, does this make the rest of your post moot now?You have absolutely no idea about how bad things were back then unless you look at the old black and white film of Bull Connor, high pressure water hoses, and dogs because that was real and it was how things were.
This is an astoundingly ignorant, and very telling, statement.Was that wrong? In fact, it seems like things have gone very well in the arena of all folks from all points living and working side by side until a certain community organizer was placed in office and couldn't wait to start creating hate. Unraveling fifty years right in front of our eyes.
I hope you're referring to me, because I'd be disappointed if my feelings towards you were not clear.Gee, I've seen some of that right in this thread.
The fact you even try to compare this slight to that of minorities during your day tells me all I need to know about you, how, and what you think.
I have, why do you think I'm so passionate, does this make the rest of your post moot now?
This is an astoundingly ignorant, and very telling, statement.
But not completely surprising. I've never been confused or unsure of your prejudices.
I hope you're referring to me, because I'd be disappointed if my feelings towards you were not clear.
I'm not as certain how I feel regarding this one. There is a definite history of Klan activity, even easements granting them rights to have Klan activity there. The finishing of the monument also coincides with much of the Civil War rebirth during the 60's while protest of civil rights movements were ongoing. I can understand the argument, but I have less of an incentive to see something like that destroyed vs simply removing a flag from a government property that shouldn't be there. I think there should be monuments to both sides of the civil war. I don't really know what all is at Stone Mountain as I've never been there. I'd be happy to see a Civil War Museum that reflects all sides, both good and bad of the various issues.
it seems like things have gone very well in the arena of all folks from all points living and working side by side until a certain community organizer was placed in office and couldn't wait to start creating hate.
That's a great read! Thanks for sharing.Add Tom Petty's name to the list of Liberal Surrender Monkeys! Burn your Petty concert T-shirts!!
Stone Mtn is a bit more nuanced -- in terms of what's plausible, the correct course of action is not to blast the carvings away, but to ensure every visitor understands that those men were traitorous propagators of one of America's great sins.
Stone Mtn ought to be a teaching venue, informing those men were the enemies of America and our ideals for liberty and justice for all -- and driving home that we should never allow such injustices on our watch and that we must never rest in our progress towards a more just society.
The LARGER ISSUE, that continues to be obscured is that of the systemic biases and racism that continue to afflict America in 2015. We focus on scabs like Stone Mtn and infested warts like the CBF -- rather than talking about the disease causing them. Media won't do it, it's too serious for their quick-hit, tabloid-take agenda (and aptitude); but as citizens we ought to.
Also @goldmom , as an aside, with regard to the quote below, what exactly did he do to "create hate"?
To your point that "things have gone very well" I'll agree things have improved from the Civil Rights Era, but progress slowed drastically. While overt discrimination was no longer taking place at the lunch counter, covert political and economic discrimination (one example) accelerated to become structurally entrenched in what we see as today's America
Perhaps you and I should start a more strategic movement. It's our country too.The "sandblasting crowd" is really just lessening the credibility of this entire movement. So their extreme and ludicrous ideas -- i.e., like digging up buried Confederate Generals and moving them to inconspicuous/unmarked areas -- means this will pass over sooner instead of later. Poor strategy, but who am I to tell them anything?
Perhaps you and I should start a more strategic movement. It's our country too.