Just interesting that so much attention is focused on secondary and tertiary issues, while paramount issues are completely (or substantially) ignored.
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What’s your personal opinion on the trans male-to-female competing in female sports topic?
I haven’t followed it closely enough and researched enough to form more than a gut instinct, and am open to changing my thinking here, but my underinformed stance on this one minor aspect of the trans experience is that it seems unfair for individuals with that physical advantage to compete against females born female. It has nothing to do with fault or blame since transgenderism isn’t some whim of a personal choice; I can’t even fathom what degree of “choice” is involved in those decisions and I’m sure that’s markedly different for different individuals. IMHO, somebody loses on the “life ain’t fair” roulette wheel with whichever decisions are made here regarding athletic competition… and how far does someone need to transition or not have transitioned before it’s most fair to the most people involved to draw any lines? But thinking like that still gives me heartburn since folks in any small minority are always going to lose out in decisionmaking that favors the majority.
Really have no idea how to address the female-not-born-to-biological-female-body athletic advantage conundrum.
Help me out here please with understanding that better.
Do you think you’ll ever have some revelation that things that are “secondary and tertiary” to you are paramount to plenty of other humans whose lives are just as important to them and their loved ones as yours is to you and whoever cares about you?
And also that evolved empathetic humans can care about multiple issues at the same time, and about people we are vastly different from, and that just because you don’t see everything being done about issues X, Y and Z from your very limited viewpoint within your chosen echo chamber, that doesn’t mean at all that they’re being completely or substantially ignored?
Or, it's just another attempt to hijack another thread.
The title of the thread has something to do with paganism if I'm not mistaken. Seems as though it was forcibly diverted to Cuba a couple of pages ago.
Yes, I stated that.
It's impossible to get inside the head/hearts of 330 million Americans BUT it's a fact that 80% of Americans are not religious practitioners.
This is actually hilarious.Always smart to fight with the customers. There's now an opening at A-B if you have any interest.
Interesting business model here. There's an open topic in a different forum about "How Do I Cancel My Subscription?" Some topics do not move for days and days. Economy is tanking, and the board generally seems dead. (Yeah, I know it's off-season, but it was dead long before that). Maybe @Jerry Kutz knows what he is doing. I hope so for his sake.
Maybe the most SNL-worthy demonstration of “look at me and how important and powerful I am!!!!” delusional performance art we’ve seen on here in a while.
What percentage go to religious services once a week or more?
More or less than the 20% of Americans that do?
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You are so right about that “look over here!” distraction & hijack entire discussion aspect of the trans in sports issue.
Really sad that so many of our fellow Noles are so insecure and/or threatened and/or offended for whatever reasons about how people different than them live that they actually revel in and cheer on all the mocking hatefulness. I feel super fortunate to have been born with my sex/gender all conveniently aligned… tears me up seeing what several families with not-so-conveniently-aligned family-members, whom I love and respect, go through navigating this unaccepting world. Thankfully they don’t read the hateful “harmless humor” on these boards. Just another of many places they’re not welcome since they force themselves down our throats I guess.
Thanks for your thoughtful response to my questions. I’m not sure about the possible “solution” you were admittedly spitballing, and some of your positions are too far to the left for my comfort zone, but I do wish more people were as bold and outspoken as you on the caring for and fighting for marginalized humans front, no matter how much blowback you get from the peanut gallery. You seem like a genuinely good dude.
Not regularly attending a religious service does not make one atheist even by your own definition.
I'm not claiming it does.
My point is that religious Americans are a minority in America as shown by 80% of Americans no longer attending any religious service weekly.
Are you saying that anybody who is not a "religious American", who attends services at least weekly, is therefore an atheist?
Because so far that's what your comments add up to.
The percentage of Americans without religious affiliation, often labeled as "Nones", is around 20-29% – with people who identify as "nothing in particular" accounting for the growing majority of this demographic, and both atheists and agnostics accounting for the relatively unchanged minority of this demographic.
Understood although that doesn't change the fact that only 1 out of 5 of Americans attend religious services once a week, which makes religious Americans a small minority today.
Church attendance of Americans 2022 | Statista
According to a 2022 survey, 31 percent of Americans never attend church or synagogue, compared to 20 percent of Americans who attend every week.
www.statista.com
Is this where Catylin Jenner was charged with a misdeweiner? Asking for a friend. 
No one is arguing that. But your contention that a majority of Americans are atheist is just not true. And you have stated that multiple times in multiple threads.Understood although that doesn't change the fact that only 1 out of 5 of Americans attend religious services once a week, which makes religious Americans a small minority today.
Church attendance of Americans 2022 | Statista
According to a 2022 survey, 31 percent of Americans never attend church or synagogue, compared to 20 percent of Americans who attend every week.
I think it's probably true for most Americans under age 60 but impossible to prove 100%.
Religious Americans are a minority though. That I can prove.
Can definitely agree "it is just a fact" that you constantly move the goalposts and say and ask a whole bunch of whacky stuff. Have a great weekend regardless.I think it's probably true for most Americans under age 60 but impossible to prove 100%.
Religious Americans are a minority though. That I can prove.
🥴Is this where Catylin Jenner was charged with a misdeweiner? Asking for a friend.
Are you in town all week?
Um, again, no. Christians, yes but there are other religions practiced in the US.I think it's probably true for most Americans under age 60 but impossible to prove 100%.
Religious Americans are a minority though. That I can prove.
A 2023 The Wall Street Journal-NORC poll found that 17% of Americans identify as "very religious", 31% "moderately religious", 23% "slightly religious", and 29% "not religious at all".
They can self identify in a phone poll but those are notoriously unreliable. My 83 year old Father calls himself "very religious" even though he doesn't pray and hasn't been to church since 1955.
I'm including all religions. 80% of Americans do not practice a religion unless not attending religious services weekly is a religion.
The mere act of attending a church service weekly does not make one religious. The converse of that is also true.They can self identify in a phone poll but those are notoriously unreliable. My 83 year old Father calls himself "very religious" even though he doesn't pray and hasn't been to church since 1955.
I'm including all religions. 80% of Americans do not practice a religion unless not attending religious services weekly is a religion.
Going to church doesn’t make you religious. And you don’t have to pray in front of or with others to be religious either.They can self identify in a phone poll but those are notoriously unreliable. My 83 year old Father calls himself "very religious" even though he doesn't pray and hasn't been to church since 1955.
I'm including all religions. 80% of Americans do not practice a religion unless not attending religious services weekly is a religion.
There are a lot of people sitting in church pews every Sunday who are going to hell.I think it's a pretty good indicator.
I think it's certainly an indicator. A very strong one.
JMO.
I know others disagree. That's fine.
I'm afraid this is true^^^..... and many who rarely, if ever put their butt on a pew, will go to heaven.
^^^Agree 100%. Used to go out on my boat early in the morning, cut the engine when land was out of sight, and would pray... then crack open a few ice cold beers.
Church is crucial for salvation, IMO.
If a person rejects weekly Church, they probably won't feel comfortable in Heaven.
JMHO.
(I didn't go to Church for 15 years in a row.)
Disagree with this^^^, but that is just my opinion as well.
I don't want anyone to leave including you.
"I disagree with you say but would defend to the death your right to say it". I would appreciate the same courtesy without people reporting me because they disagree or are offended by my posts. I could also be offended by the zingers thrown my way...
I let it roll off my back, you should to.
sincerely
Noletaire
Probably better for humanity if you imagine what the underrepresented folks you consistently advocate for would say about this rather than the lame barbs from those who find your empathy so threatening.
Empathy is universal and applies to all equally. When its applied to just one group, then it becomes the very injustice people are supposedly fighting against.
