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Ok how bout this
We are all brothers and sisters in accordance with my beliefs
Different strokes for different folks and all but at the end of the day we’re family
I for one want to include everyone in any discussion whether or not I agree with them i like hearing their opinions. I have only blocked one user and not because I disagreed with him but he was and contiues to just be an ass. I'm so glad to have this outlet. It has been said that humanity thrives on conflict. As a weak older this passes for conflict to me. Happy Happy joy joy.
^^^^M-F I cross paths with people whose candor and business integrity are sorely lacking. But then they show up as “church deacons” on Sunday, and publicly espouse their alleged virtues. LOL. Then they return to work on Monday and repeat their usual antics. “Church” is merely a prop for lots of folks.
Lots of people say there Christians, but the “ fruits of the spirit” say otherwise
But, we all fall short of the Glory of God!
Btw, all people are hypocrites at some point, not just Christians!
It has been my experience that the few “trans” people that I know are opposed to them competing in women’s sports. They don’t feel it’s right, as it does give an unfair advantage.
My first up front and personal experience with this was in 1975 when we hosted a WTA tournament in São Paulo that included Renee Richard’s, Martina, Rosie Casals, Billie Jean and others of that era.
Not attending church does not make a person an atheist, but you seem to feel it does.
Pre Vatican 2 Roman Catholics believed that non RC Christians were atheists.
I do not fully comprehend your reasoning unless you subscribe to these beliefs.
If I identify as a Zen Christian or. a Buddhist Christian, do you consider me an atheist?
> Not attending church does not make a person an atheist, but you seem to feel it does.
I don't but there is certainly a correlation between the two.
> If I identify as a Zen Christian or. a Buddhist Christian, do you consider me an atheist?
No.
OK. You have just defined religious Americans as those who go to church.Understood although that doesn't change the fact that only 1 out of 5 of Americans attend religious services once a week, which makes religious Americans a small minority today.
Church attendance of Americans 2022 | Statista
According to a 2022 survey, 31 percent of Americans never attend church or synagogue, compared to 20 percent of Americans who attend every week.www.statista.com
IMO, that’s judgmental. I have not attended church regularly for a long time. How would dare to determine my religious beliefs and practices based on that admission?
When I moved from NYC to Ct, I visited all the Episcopal church in the area and did not like any of them. I stopped going.
So by your determination, I became an atheist? That is ludicrous.
It's a dogma (definitive teaching) in the Catholic Church that if someone dies in mortal sin, they cannot be saved. Rejecting Church knowingly is a mortal sin.
Vatican 2 affirmed that teaching.
Catechism of the Catholic Church - PART 1 SECTION 2 CHAPTER 3 ARTICLE 12
www.scborromeo.org
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As a Catholic I know NO others in my faith who believe that you are automatically an atheist if you don’t attend church regularly.
But it’s a free country and people can believe what they want.
My kids grew up in Texas and there were Protestant kids at their school who said since our family was Catholic we weren’t Christians. Meh. My daughter also went to 17 Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. One of her soccer teammates wore long pants and a head scarf for games. Family was Muslim.
They ALL believed in a higher power.
I grew up in Florida and had public school kids in my neighborhood ask me if the nuns beat us every day at Catholic school.
Again, meh.
The freedom to believe or not believe in the same things is such a cornerstone of our country and we can’t forget it or let it slip away.
But it’s a free country and people can believe what they want.
My kids grew up in Texas and there were Protestant kids at their school who said since our family was Catholic we weren’t Christians. Meh. My daughter also went to 17 Bar/Bat Mitzvahs. One of her soccer teammates wore long pants and a head scarf for games. Family was Muslim.
They ALL believed in a higher power.
I grew up in Florida and had public school kids in my neighborhood ask me if the nuns beat us every day at Catholic school.
Again, meh.
The freedom to believe or not believe in the same things is such a cornerstone of our country and we can’t forget it or let it slip away.
> As a Catholic I know NO others in my faith who believe that you are automatically an atheist if you don’t attend church regularly.
Same here. I didn't claim that. I claimed there is a correlation between the fact that 80% of Americans do not attend Church and atheism. That's all.
Not attending Mass is a mortal sin though, unless one is ill or has a reason for their absence.
> I grew up in Florida and had public school kids in my neighborhood ask me if the nuns beat us every day at Catholic school.
Again, meh.
Terrible. Sorry you experienced that.
Some nuns are horrible and some are saints. My great aunt was a nun and she was a saint.
Yes, it was dogma, to my late MIL, but not to my late husband. There is not even consistency within the Catholic Church.
There certainly is consistency.
All the teachings are in the Catechism.
I wasn’t responding directly to you in my first sentence.> As a Catholic I know NO others in my faith who believe that you are automatically an atheist if you don’t attend church regularly.
Same here. I didn't claim that. I claimed there is a correlation between the fact that 80% of Americans do not attend Church and atheism. That's all.
Not attending Mass is a mortal sin though, unless one is ill or has a reason for their absence.
> I grew up in Florida and had public school kids in my neighborhood ask me if the nuns beat us every day at Catholic school.
Again, meh.
Terrible. Sorry you experienced that.
Some nuns are horrible and some are saints. My great aunt was a nun and she was a saint.
In fact I’m putting you on ignore.
Seek secular help. Just a thought.
So is Brazil not a Catholic country? I’m asking because I’m curious as to what you think?
Show me one verse of scripture that suggests that. I'll show you one that doesn't.
Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.
Why do you keep waffling so much?
You've repeated multiple times that atheists (per your definition) include anyone who shows the slightest doubt or uncertainty whatsoever about whether or not there's a God (ie agnostics), and you've also repeatedly mixed in those who don't attend church weekly. Either own it or say, "I got out over my skis and spoke a bunch of unsupported by any data, pure opinion only nonsense"
You've wasted a lot of people's time responding to your nonsense (not that we had to, I totally get that), so yeh, the "I don't believe that" wishy washiness when in fact you've said it or suggested it repeatedly and continued debating multiple people about it is annoying. The creamers thing was kind of amusing. This is just lame.
Now?
Definitely not. 90% of Brazilians don't attend weekly Mass.
I think I told you, my sister in law is from Santa Catarina. I went there in 2020. Her family doesn't attend Mass either.
Where Is Mass Attendance Highest and Lowest?
Which country has the highest Catholic Mass attendance? We can’t say for sure because surveys have not been conducted on the topic in every ...
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If you accept Jesus as Lord and Savior you are saved!
The Gospels are simple for a reason
Man always has to interject their little twists and wrinkles into the equation and muddy it up
Scripture says when one part of the body the whole body suffers, Protestant and Catholics need to wake up and embrace as brothers and sisters!
Brian Jesus says “ the church is within us”!
Lastly, if you’re a believer whether you get dunked or sprinkled your a believer
The Savior is for all who believe
The Gospels are simple for a reason
Man always has to interject their little twists and wrinkles into the equation and muddy it up
Scripture says when one part of the body the whole body suffers, Protestant and Catholics need to wake up and embrace as brothers and sisters!
Brian Jesus says “ the church is within us”!
Lastly, if you’re a believer whether you get dunked or sprinkled your a believer
The Savior is for all who believe
I think you misread my posts.
I do believe America is an atheist country now. I believe that based on multiple factors, including 80% of Americans rejecting religious services.
You are free to disagree, of course. My job is to inform, not convince.
When so many people from all different religious persuasions and practices "misread" your posts, you might consider what you wrote to be the issue.I think you misread my posts.
I do believe America is an atheist country now. I believe that based on multiple factors, including 80% of Americans rejecting religious services.
You are free to disagree, of course. My job is to inform, not convince.
I understand their confusion. Most posters commenting are also over age 60.
For Americans under age 60, atheism is much more widespread.
Jesus also said we have to do the will of His Father.
I agree we need to unite.
God Bless brother.
Dude, you just said a lot!
I’m not sure if your trolling us or if you get your info from other places than the Bible, yes both the old and new testaments are important!
I go by Scripture and tradition, just like the early Christians did.
The Bible doesn't say "only believe what the Bible says" and the Bible came 300 years after Christ.
My mistake. I thought you were responding to me.
It's hard to keep everything straight.
I don’t think atheism is due to non belief in Judaism or Christianity
I feel that possibly the youth is not being exposed to the ways of God like say 50 years ago
Case in point the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years before God thru Moses set the free
However they did not know God, Jehovah due to the lack of teachings for 400 years
Thus they complained and died in the desert and did not enter the promised land!
It is the parents and grandparents who carry the responsibility to teach their children the ways of God!
I feel that possibly the youth is not being exposed to the ways of God like say 50 years ago
Case in point the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years before God thru Moses set the free
However they did not know God, Jehovah due to the lack of teachings for 400 years
Thus they complained and died in the desert and did not enter the promised land!
It is the parents and grandparents who carry the responsibility to teach their children the ways of God!
I totally disagree!
Jesus said “ put not your trust in man”!
Matthew 15:18 are his instructions concerning disputes
The church is the last resort
Ok
Gotta go
The tractor awaits!
Very few have attended mass for ages. In the ‘70’s it was only the Portuguese refugees. But, when there is a funeral, it is a mass, a wedding, a mass.Now?
Definitely not. 90% of Brazilians don't attend weekly Mass.
I think I told you, my sister in law is from Santa Catarina. I went there in 2020. Her family doesn't attend Mass either.
Where Is Mass Attendance Highest and Lowest?
Which country has the highest Catholic Mass attendance? We can’t say for sure because surveys have not been conducted on the topic in every ...
Yet, most Brazilians would claim Catholicism as their religion even though many practice candomblé, as well.
There are many great movies that show how the two are intertwined.
Pagador de Promessas and Dona Flor are two in particular.
Candomblé would be described as pagan, with all the Saints corresponding to Catholic saints.
Do you really believe that the current pope would tell Brazilians that they’re atheists, given that he is from Argentina?
> Do you really believe that the current pope would tell Brazilians that they’re atheists, given that he is from Argentina?
No.
He probably would tell them they should attend Mass weekly, though.
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