Yes. I doubt it, but I would love it if she did. Then again, I never dreamed Alexandra Daddario would do it, and I'm so glad I was wrong on that one.
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Yes. I doubt it, but I would love it if she did. Then again, I never dreamed Alexandra Daddario would do it, and I'm so glad I was wrong on that one.
I'll say it was "solid" and it definitely has my attention. I'm going to try and avoid comparing it to TD S1E1 b/c that's just not fair since it was a rare perfect storm.
I think there's going to be an issue in either being too bloated or under developed w/ 4 main characters. The character development from TD1 (I know, I lied) was perfectly woven w/ the pontificating Rust and the grounded Hart playing off of each other and the conclusion of not only the investigation but their stories (within the show).
I thought TD2 was too try hard w/ the interview of Ferrell in the beginning in that old style room w/ the picture tube TV in the background. Harken back to Rust being interviewed/interrogated in TD1. Maybe it was an homage but it was too on the nose.
I am interested by the story - a crows mask, underground sex cult possibly being fed sex slaves from a legit cult.
Yeah, it's darn near impossible to avoid comparing the seasons at this point.
The interview room was a not-so-subtle nod to season 1. As a matter of fact, I suspect the director did it on purpose to make people go "WHAAAAAT?! They're doing the interview flash back angle again?" and then they pulled a "gotcha" angle by turning out it was just an interview with that attorney.
That's how I took it, at least.
There aren't a lot of other options for shows to watch at this point in the year, so I'm all in for Season 2. Still think they stumbled coming out of the gate a little bit. The scene with VV and CF in the bar with that depressing song playing was a bit too much. The show is definitely self-aware and appears to be trying too hard to feed into what people are expecting from the franchise now.
I will say I was happy to see that all the footage they showed in the previews was contained within the first episode. i.e. no spoilers beyond the premier.
She's Canadian, so of course she'll get naked.
When my day is dragging, I like to watch the Alexandra Daddario gif on my computer.
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Rewatched the last scene again.
1. Didn't look like CF's character had a vest on. You can see top two buttons unbuttoned when he's laying flat on his back after first shot.
2. You can see the shirt split open when the 2nd round is fired. No blood splatter that I can tell, but that was a point blank shot.
Hell of an ending for a 2nd episode.
1. Didn't look like CF's character had a vest on. You can see top two buttons unbuttoned when he's laying flat on his back after first shot.
2. You can see the shirt split open when the 2nd round is fired. No blood splatter that I can tell, but that was a point blank shot.
Hell of an ending for a 2nd episode.
Also, the judge says one of his guys gets "shot", not killed. And
this scene from the teaser show him still alive, if it's not a red herring
True. Guessing round was non lethal... But seriously from that distance... Then again it's a show.Also, the judge says one of his guys gets "shot", not killed. Andthis scene from the teaser show him still alive, if it's not a red herring
Still, loving that the tension is developing I'm the show.
Will add that they make mention to a shotgun blast during the autopsy. Almost back to that part (rewatching whole episode now). Made it sound like the shotgun blast to Casper was nonlethal as well.
Nix that, comment about shotgun was a shot by 12 gauge shot gun to the groin.
Odd wording by CF when he's telling VV about Caspere. "and a shotgun blast happened". Odd.
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I want to know what kind of kinky chit was she wanting the guy to do in ep1
Ditto. She seemed pretty entranced with the porn she was watching in the episode. Even went back tow watching it after her partner called her.
Think we've got that much established. What will be interesting is how they explain. Guessing it'll be a bullet proof vest, but that's a little lame. That is what makes the most sense, as they purposely showed him from upper chest and above after that first shot to the gut. You could see top two buttons unbuttoned and undershirt, but again he most likely still had a vest on.
Would have loved them to actually kill off the bike cop guy, but no dice. Hoping his back story makes him screen time worth it.
Already 1/4 through the season. No time to waste, really.
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3 things:
1) I was assuming the porn she was looking at was her sister, but the scene with the boyfriend in ep1 is intriguing-- wouldn't be surprised if she's got her own issues from her hippie dad, and if her disgust at sister's behavior is some sort of repressive response to her own compulsions.
2) If CF is not dead, that will be a complete waste of what would have been an awesomely bold, Game Of Thrones-level killoff. As it seems we have his return established, I'll be prepared for more of a Feast For Crows/Dance With Dragons-everybody-you-thought-was-dead-surprise!-is-alive letdown. I'll say before we confirm or deny his return that if he does, it's indicative of lazy, poor, cheap writing.
And while we're on the topic, I'll need the ballistics experts to tell me: I'm assuming that even if he was wearing a vest, then the combination of a) at a distance of, what, 10 feet for the first shot, the spread would have gotten beyond a vest's protection, and b) that at the distance of the second shot, the concussion (no room to fly backward and absorb some of the force a la Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon) seems like it's a foregone conclusion that he would be dead. Somebody splain me.
3) No idea where this one will go, but I got the distinct impression that Casper had some sex-change surgery, whether or not that involved the rest of the (i suppose) typical hormone regimen. The, uh, "units" on the desk in his house, the plastic surgeon referring to his interests as passive (and right when he says that, they look at a rock on his desk that is very, uh, cave-looking, and then of course the shot to that area on his corpse, as if evidence was being obscured. How that might play in, Chinatown-style, I have no idea.
Seriously, no time to waste.
The bike cop seems pretty messed up from his mom. It almost seemed like they were alluding to some incestual relationship.
I thought she was looking at her sister's site at first too, then saw some of the images, although blurry. You could certainly make out what appeared to be hard core BBC DP. The look in her eyes seemed to indicate she was into it. Could be wrong.
As done the bike cop, Def picked up on some incestuous themes. Reminded me of Jimmy and his mom on Boardwalk Empire. HBO loves incest in their shows, it seems. Or even the suggestion of it.
Looks like he might be a closet homo. Viagra needed for hot gf, his story of wanting to punch the guy that hit on him, staring down at the male prostitute and drag queens from his balconey. All 3 of the characters are messed up, with Valcoro surpisingly the most "normal".
There were also allusions to "the desert" and work he won't talk about with the GF that sounds like a Blackwater-type PTSD cocktail. They're throwing it all at you, with each implied revelation seeming like a red herring to get you to take the bait before they reveal his REAL issue.
Just read that Rick Springfield was the creepy shrink. Now we all know how the 1st season trolled everyone with all the small background stuff that never developed, but I think the shrink will come back into play. Here is a screenshot of a painting in his office of a bird mask.
@PoopandBoogers I think those are both solid interpretations: That bike cop is possibly gay (hence Viagra and odd relationship w/ Mom). The dialogue he had with that other Vinci cop would make sense, regarding his "dynamite anecdote".
Nice find on the painting in the doctor's office.
What was the purpose of them focusing on the gemstone on the doctor's desk? Was it just in reference to sex change surgery and suggestion to vagina? Didn't quite catch that.
Nice find on the painting in the doctor's office.
What was the purpose of them focusing on the gemstone on the doctor's desk? Was it just in reference to sex change surgery and suggestion to vagina? Didn't quite catch that.
yeah, it's certainly possible. As pointed out by others earlier, definitely no blood splatter and Velcoro lives.
Follow up to the part about Ani, it seems like she was looking at porn for her own reasons.
Few other good tidbits as well http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/true-detective-season-2-episode-2-night-finds-you/
We saw Ani falling down an Internet pornography rabbit hole. It started off as work and was going somewhere in the vague vicinity of pleasure, though Ani doesn’t distinguish bad habits from good, so what’s the point of placing a value judgment on her browser history?
Don't know but I was wondering something similar (like when Brother Mouzone shot Cheese).
I was thinking the same thing.
I couldn't get into the first season, but season 2 has me sold. I watched episode 2 while being distracted, and after reading a lot of the comments here, I missed quite a bit and will have to go back and watch it again, especially when she was watching the porn and the conversation with the shrink (I thought the shrink looked familiar but I couldn't place him). I did have the subtitles on and did notice that "Pity the Fool" was playing on the radio when CF walked into the apartment before being shot.
IMO, this is CF's best work yet, and it's great to see VV back in a role that fitted his early career.
As far as the CHP guy, I was thinking the same thing with him being gay, possibly from being messed up because of his messed up mother and probably some incest, but, but...maybe he was raped while working for that security firm and didn't he call someone a fag?
Also, VV sent CF to the apartment, and mentioned paper mache when he told his wife that story when he was a kid, is that bird mask made of paper mache and did VV shoot CF (I did catch that much while watching the first time), that's the only possible reasoning for VV's story, that I can think of.
The guy that shot the city manager also shot CF. It was the same car parked out front and same house that Caspere was transported from, also remember the car transporting Caspere had the bird mask on the seat. VV lost all his money over Caspere's death, so unless he has a split personality or ulterior motives (maybe so), it wasn't him.
That had me thinking, though, the raven mask shooter was tall, had big shoes and was wearing a dark suit similar to the ones VV wears. In EP1 VV talks about putting a size 13 shoe up Caspere's azz. If it hadn't been for the mask and car, would have been more likely to think VV set up CF to get a bigger investigation going. If VV killed Caspere, he wouldn't want more eyes looking at the case and into Caspere's past.
Loving the show theories starting early.
Welp, this should end the debate.
Does it? Do we know if that was vest or salt/bean bag/rubber rounds? ie was he left alive intentionally?
Looks shockingly "ok" given the proximity of the shotgun blast.
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That crows mask is from Casper's sex apartment. Once CF entered the room there's a set of masks on the wall w/ one missing.
It's tough to think that VV's character is involved in Casper murder (and CF's "murder"), he's doing things when alone that make no sense (if he was involved). Throwing the drinking glass after the Russians were interested in meeting Casper and VV delivering that awful line. He seems to be jumping through a lot of hoops for appearances. Then you start thinking about his statements, thinking he died in that dark place where the rats gnawed at his fingers, not knowing what to do w/ money or being rich.
There's a theme of duality with essentially every character (especially our 4). On the surface we see VV's character as a goon gangster turned wealthy business man playing it straight but perhaps there's significantly more to it. 5 days trapped in a basement, 4 with no light and little food, his wife asking - sometimes I wonder how many stories like this you have that you haven't told me.
VV could possible be a client of the psychiatrist and be a member of some seedy underbelly group that he runs. Casper could also be a part of it and was being a little to "free" and open. VV could be protecting the Mask, while hustling the investors and he knows exactly what he's doing but pretending like he's been ripped off.
It's tough to think that VV's character is involved in Casper murder (and CF's "murder"), he's doing things when alone that make no sense (if he was involved). Throwing the drinking glass after the Russians were interested in meeting Casper and VV delivering that awful line. He seems to be jumping through a lot of hoops for appearances. Then you start thinking about his statements, thinking he died in that dark place where the rats gnawed at his fingers, not knowing what to do w/ money or being rich.
There's a theme of duality with essentially every character (especially our 4). On the surface we see VV's character as a goon gangster turned wealthy business man playing it straight but perhaps there's significantly more to it. 5 days trapped in a basement, 4 with no light and little food, his wife asking - sometimes I wonder how many stories like this you have that you haven't told me.
VV could possible be a client of the psychiatrist and be a member of some seedy underbelly group that he runs. Casper could also be a part of it and was being a little to "free" and open. VV could be protecting the Mask, while hustling the investors and he knows exactly what he's doing but pretending like he's been ripped off.
Oh yeah, nobody mentioned the Russians. Was anybody else disappointed that they couldn't work in an excuse for the Russian guy to look at the camera and say "Opulence. I has it" and pull out a miniature giraffe?
Big letdown there.
Big letdown there.
Yeah, I'm picking up on all that. Sometimes things are obvious and sometimes things are a ruse. With VV talking about Paper Mache, it also makes sense that things will not be what they appear. Lots of allusion to things not making sense (ie water spots forming when it has only rained twice all year).
The word choices in the show so far have been interesting. A lot of lines delivered by VV seem out of place, overly verbose. Not sure if that's meant to make the audience have to stop and thiink about what he's saying or if that's just VV's character trying to sound more legitimate and refined.
As for the mask, yes it's definitely one of the missing makes on the wall (think Poop brought that up earlier).
It's likely that Caspere's connection to the clinic ties back to VV at some point.
Also odd about the $10 mil vs $7 mil. Was VV really that big of an idiot? Why deal with Caspere to begin with, when the talk to Catalyst so easily in EP2? The main guy seems reasonable enough. Guess they haven't explained all of what Caspere was up to yet.
