minimum wage workers make up about 2% of the hourly wage workforce in the US and just over 1.1% of the entire workforce in the US.
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Work 50h a week at $11/hr and you’re making $28,600 a year. So yeah I think you can get by on that. Wont be a great life but you can easily make ends meet. I don’t have much sympathy for people who choose to not work.
Unfortunately agree but just like our FB program, survival is dependent upon finding ways to consistently deliver a quality product. I know of few businesses where ‘normal’ tolerates eroding product and service.……..
My son has now life guarded during the summer in the same area for 5 years. 5 years ago he made $8.20 hour as a HS freshman. The next year he made $8.50 at the same place here in New Hampshire. That worked for him because they were flexible with his work hours and he was swimming, so away quite a bit a meets. He quit swimming and moved across the border to Vermont to work and made $10.80 and then $11 hour. This last summer he made $14.50 at two places in Vermont. Meanwhile, back at his old workplace in New Hampshire, they were forced to hire entirely 15-16 year olds because they couldn't compete with Vermont for older workers and as a result had problems. Then they had to cancel having life guards all together, because they couldn't find lifeguards. Meanwhile, across the border they increased pay until they got a good mix of HS and college students and other adults to work. The market was working well, just that some folks weren't receptive to what it was saying.
Hopefully a lot of this gets cleared up on its own when people are thrown offer the federal unemployment teet next week. Much more blame there than on COVID.
Thsts going to be everywhere in Tally. I can’t think of a place that’s fully staffed. If you’re out north end of town try Horizons. Really good food and drink. Owners are the ones who had Spirit on Tennessee.
I will say, I've been to Backwoods Crossing twice in the last few weeks and they hit it out of the park both times. I've been to Carabba's recently as well and things went great. Also went to a few other places and had no problems. I just want people to be aware that their expectations for service this weekend should be reasonable. When it gets down to it, we're really lucky to have much of this going on at all considering the state of things, just be thankful we have a game to look forward to and the opportunity to unwind
A lack of sympathy won't bring the workers back. Now imagine if they all chose not to work from here on out. Then what would your solution be?
This assumes they will let you work over 40 hours a week. Most of the employers I know that pay bottom of the barrel wages only allow you to work 32 to 40 hours a week max.
If you’re single you could barely get by. Have any kids and that’s a no.
Imagine working minimum wage, with less than full time hours, with a kid, now make the kid sick. Chuck in a few car problems and poor public transportation in rural areas. The ripple effects of suck begin to look like tidal waves of suck.
I had no idea minimum wage jobs were supposed to do that.
or you could work for an amazon company, get a guaranteed min. of $15 per hour but be lucky to get 20 hours.
Imagine a working class demanding a living wage. Then imagine that class being told, you "don't deserve a living wage for what you do." At that point, the working class would have the freedom to walk. Right now, they are walking and there is pain felt in the market. It is making some folks uncomfortable. Rather than adjust, they get upset and finger point.
um, it’s a minimum wage job..
minimum wage jobs were not meant to support families.
Sounds like a good argument for raising the minimum wage then.
Regardless, If a business wants to pay minimum wage then fine. However, don’t then complain that no one wants to work for you and call all those people lazy.
This industry is struggling as is and then you add a gameday spike in business, what a nightmare!
I would be knocking on Allnoles door asking to use his grill. 🤣
I would be knocking on Allnoles door asking to use his grill. 🤣
what’s your suggestion to mom and pop shops? Hardware stores, diners, etc..
Are they supposed to pay everyone in the building, 50K a year?
what’s the end game here? How much should baggers are grocery stores make?
No worries! Just stay on employment. We’ll just pay for it in our taxes. Problem solved!
I sure hope you are right. But I fear that some part of the population will be “conditioned” to “just get used to it,” and quietly indulge marginal or crappy service.
My nephew is a Senior at FSU. He has some class where the Professor showed up and basically said “all future classes will be remote since I can’t be sure all of you are vaxed, and you don’t all wear masks….I can’t take the risk. Log on tomorrow.”
The kids just shrugged and said “OK.” My reaction was quite different. Whoa, Bro, maybe YOU — the one guy — need to take off the semester and come back when you feel safe. Why are 30-40 kids relegated to video because you have a concern????
Never crossed the minds of the conditioned kids.
Never crossed the minds of others to not let in someone that may have a medical bomb that could kill people either.
Everyone should make enough to live unless you feel people do not have a right to a living that would feed them, clothe them, and keep a roof over their heads.
That is the end goal. Not to make someone rich. Just to make someone be able to live.
I care about people, not the CEO of McDonald's bonus.
That is awful. He should be fired.
I guess we’d have a bunch more homeless people. Good thing is most people don’t want to live on the street.
Yes ... That is capitalism ... congrats to your son on his seizure of a wage arbitrage opportunity
If your business’ survival depends on you paying people $9.00 an hour then maybe the owners should reconsider whether they should have a business.
My point is some employers want their cake and to eat it too. They want to pay minimum wage but then demand a steady stream of employees willing to work for that level of pay.
But so many will sit in class and never voice a thought or opinion that might be different than the Professor because they risk being down graded. They're conditioned to keep their mouths shut.
I would not counsel a kid to directly confront the PhD egghead who will passing out the grades. But we have “deans” and “administrators” who should have been blown up over this. The reality is that teachers, judges and others love “remote” because it is easier, and builds in all kinds of unaccountability and corner cutting.
What can you do? Hard to exist without that extra money. Let them starve if they don't want to work, what do I care?
that’s fine. Just be willing to shop only at Lowe’s and not Jim’s hardware.
eat at McDonald’s and not Jim’s diner.
shop at amazon only and not (insert store)
get groceries from Kroger and not Jim’s market..
Hmm. You must not live in or near a small town. I have relatives in a South Alabama town of 6,000 (teachers, nurses) and there are some people they know keeping a little business going and paying a couple of people probably $9 or $10 an hour. If those places had to close those folks would have to drive a good distance to Mobile or Montgomery for goods and services and deal with higher prices, time, and $3 dollar gas, and maybe be out of a job back home.
It's a tricky problem, and minimum wage is not intended to raise a family on, and never was, but not everyone can get on at the Walmart Super Center in town and start at $12 an hour, either.
Small town USA is not what it used to be.
T-E-N-U-R-E. 💩
using $9 as a guiding point we could apply that to the what most would believe to be a bottom of the barrel scraping job, working in the fast food industry.
about 10% of all US fast food workers make less than $9 per hour and conversely only 10% of all US fast food workers make more than $15 per hour. The median US fast food employee makes about $11.50 per hour.
about 10% of all US fast food workers make less than $9 per hour and conversely only 10% of all US fast food workers make more than $15 per hour. The median US fast food employee makes about $11.50 per hour.
So this starts out talking about food service and ends up on economics and political discussion....raising minimum wage only helps inflation since the business owner is going to pass this down to his customers. The people getting the raise are going to have to pay more for their expenses.....it's and endless cycle. Nothing is free and unfortunately there are many among us who don't understand that fact.
This is scary! Sounds like our long standing AD administrative complacency may have infected the portals of our so called academicians. Will be interesting to see if science affirms that 'stupidity' is another Covid variant........
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I always hear that. However, when wages were raised in Europe the price increase was minimal per product.
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