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Jarrion jones

I have been on here for years but never really post. I bleed nole blood and always try to stay positive. I just can't see an issue as small as Jones still playing at this point. He is slow, can't cover and gets stupid penalties every game. Little things like this baffle me. Put Tate or someone in, every position should be open!! No starters set for next week!

Warchant staff CMN question on Monday?

I love the WC staff and I am not demanding you do anything. Its your site.
I am NOT alone but if you guys do not ask him flat out about staff changes on Monday I have zero intention of watching anymore interviews.
If those really hard questions are not asked to be honest its waste of time to even watch. Zero desire to hear the nonsense coachspeak anymore

Maybe it was just Bobby all along…

Is it just possible that Florida State was only Florida State because we had Bobby Bowden and all he brought to the table (coaches, recruiting, etc) all those years? We were average to below average before him and we are back there again. Sure, Jimbo recruited some studs and got a NC, but even those teams were going downhill after 2013. Dalvin single handedly covered up our decline for the next few years, but it was coming.

Starting to feel like our “brand” and Dynasty reputation was only because we had the GOAT coach for 30+ years. Look at what we were before and after him and Florida State is proving to be just another mediocre football program. Seems like when Bobby’s magic started to disappear in the early 2000’s, so did Florida State’s success…

Norvell Watching Corey and Ira’s post-game show.

I sure hope he does! Maybe the Jeff Cameron show too! He needs to know that him and his coaching staff embarrassed and humiliated the Seminole Nation yesterday. First FSU HC to lose to an FCS opponent. Way to go, Coaches Norvell, Fuller and Dillingham! You crapped your pants and embarrassed the Seminole Nation last night! Shame on you!

Heat of the moment thoughts

I think we can be done with excuses. Done with “all aspects” speeches. Put up or shut up at this point. This team has more talent than every team we play except ND, Clemson, UF, and maybe Miami. This is inexcusable. I don’t know if anyone else noticed but WAKE FOREST IS NOT GOOD, and they’re going to prove it in ACC play.

Milton played poorly overall. He had bright spots in the intermediate passing game. Jordan threw the ball well I thought. Still looked panicked at times but pleased with how the ball came out of his hand. Big problem here is the play calling on offense is criminal. Especially in short yardage. The media doesn’t have a hair on their *** if they don’t ask Norvell why were calling a designed run for MILTON on 4th and 2 when he’s 4/5 for 60 yards on the drive.

WR looked soft again. Unbearable.

Treshaun Ward is our best running back. Patient and explosive.

Adam Fuller is flat out in over his head. We don’t have 3 first round corners to man up the whole game. BTW who is telling Brownlee to use outside leverage in man coverage? Use the sideline as an extra defender, it’s basic. I know it doesn’t look like it, but there’s a bunch of talent on our defense. It’s inexcusable that this is the product on the field.

Also, the referees in this game were unbearable. The roughing the kicker call was horrendous. The late hit out of bounds was horrendous. Both those plays had significant impact and they were flat out missed.

I don’t know what to say anymore. Norvells not going to get fired so the pressure is on now. You have to win some games and keep some recruits. I hope Aslan and the staff ask the hard questions. This fan base doesn’t do well without answers.

Doak Reno

FSU is about to spend $100 million on football only facilities and Doak renovations. I think we are putting the cart before the horse. If we don't do something soon there will be no fans in the stands to appreciate the renovations. We should move forward with the football only facilities and reallocate the reno money to hire two qualified coordinators. If we can't improve this product no sense spending the money. As a booster I will not be giving to this campaign, but will gladly contribute to the new coordinator campaign.

This isn’t rock bottom

So many posters seem to think we just fire the staff and we’ll be back. Folks, FSU football may never be back. This is a team that has totally underachieved since at least 2016. This is a roster that on the field may be playing as one of the worst OL, WR, QB, LB and DB units in the country. We simply stink at most levels on both sides.

I hate to say this, but we are going to suck for a long time no matter what coaches we have. And this may be the end of FSU football as we have known it. Rock bottom is not what’s happening now. It’s that it may never get better again.

This is 100% coaching

Norvell and this coaching staff are not ready for a program like FSU. There is literally no continuity on offense. They have no idea of what they do and don't do well. This is as bad as Taggart if not worse.

Experience matters at this level. Norvell hasn't done anything at an elite level at a program like FSU and it's showing. He maybe more organized than Taggart but it's the same result. He's learning on the job big time and simultaneously running the program into the ground. It's sad, it really is!

Malik Cunningham

Fuller needs to realize that teams now have the JSU play down and will throw to Brownlee's side with their best WR. We have 7 days to figure out how to help #3. I'm not a coach but isn't there a defensive scheme to help an undersized corner. There are lots of problems with this team and we may as well start with replacing the DC.

  • Poll
Where is Rock Bottom?

What is true rock bottom for this program?

  • It was last week after we lost to an FCS team.

    Votes: 10 19.2%
  • It was today after we started 0-3 and lost to Wake Forest.

    Votes: 10 19.2%
  • It was the end of last year -- the CLIMB will be painful, but it has started.

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • It will be at the end of this season when we finish with less than 4 wins.

    Votes: 16 30.8%
  • We're not there yet, it will be next season or later.

    Votes: 15 28.8%

Some said it was when we got crushed by Miami at home and Willie was sent packing,....

Some said it was at the end of last year's 3-6 season......

Some said it was last Saturday....

Today I saw an unmotivated, listless, lost team. The coaching staff is panicking and has no idea. I'm not an MM fan but if you're going to name him the starter on Monday, don't alternate QBs. And when JT was outplaying MM, don't put MM back in! #7 should not have been out wide on defense and should not have been sent back out there after he got torched on what was not even a double move.

So, I ask seriously - how low can this team go?
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