My guess is that we get Taggart, but not at a good price if there is no threat of other candidates that we would be “equally” happy with.
So, just a negotiation tactic. Hopefully we don’t get burned and Taggart sign with Oregon.
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My guess is that we get Taggart, but not at a good price if there is no threat of other candidates that we would be “equally” happy with.
So, just a negotiation tactic. Hopefully we don’t get burned and Taggart sign with Oregon.
Well according to “my sources” we’ll know by Tues maybe Wed at the latest. If Taggart hasn’t announced by Thurs then we’re on to option D (Option A was keeping Fisher, Option B was Frost who shut down all interest at the first move and Option C is Taggart).
I don’t see Fuentes or Franklin really being willing to move, just willing to chat to boost their salaries at their respective schools. And Strong is a terrible choice imo. So hopefully we get innovative and go you and maybe an assistant if we can’t get Taggart.
Dan, I believe that you are closer than most - how many people would you say are involved in this selection? Is it pretty much Wilcox and Thrasher?
Question for anyone - is Kiffin anywhere in the discussion if we do go to Option D?
I don’t think he’s being brought up or vetted currently. Now this is just my opinion, but I think he needs another year or two to “get the stink off of him”. A great year next year at FAU and he’ll get a real gig. If they’re just good seasons not great I think he’ll need two.
They're Aggies. By nature they're insecure.
Or that came to Tallahassee a few years ago in the Supers and sent FSU packing?
No insight on the hiring. I burned my one call a year to “my source” to see what was going on last week. I’m just reading blogs and making guesses like everyone else at this point.
If I hear anything I’ll be sure to share, but I doubt it happens.
100% agree...but if we did hire him I wouldn’t be upset.
If Kiffin's matured and wants a place to start working on a legacy FSU is as good as any. If he's just working his way back to the NFL then no thanks. The trick will be ferreting out what he's really after.
It's a tough school to recruit. Maybe Jimbo change that perception. But you are talking about and pseudo miltary academy. They get some big kids on the lines and an athlete or 2 every class; but generally kids want to go to Texas
A&M is a very tough place to recruit kids to. It's in the middle of nowhere and they don't have a winning tradition. Some schools have "traditions" while others have winning traditions. A&M is the former rather than the latter.
Jimbo is going to have a tough time breaking that cycle of Texas kids preferring to go to UT or OU. He's an ace recruiter but so are a lot of other coaches in that part of the country. Those other coaches also have the benefit of having relationships with Texas high school coaches. Jimbo doesn't have that.
Jimbo is going to have a tough time breaking that cycle of Texas kids preferring to go to UT or OU. He's an ace recruiter but so are a lot of other coaches in that part of the country. Those other coaches also have the benefit of having relationships with Texas high school coaches. Jimbo doesn't have that.
I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that Frost wasn't a candidate. We are hiring a "proven established head coach".
I have a buddy from Texas who played college ball at a small program somewhere in Texas and also coached at the same college. He is now a head coach at a high school here in FL.
He said the same thing you stated. Also said the talent in Texas is great, but that UT and Oklahoma pretty much get first pick. Said it’s not like Florida where the talent is distributed pretty evenly between FSU, UF, and UM. Also said it’s going to be hard to get kids out of Louisiana, LSU obviously owns the state.
Of course if you win, they will come, but I think it’s going to be a whole lot tougher then he may orgianlly thought.
Also said College Station is a really really boring city to live.
Hope Fisher is okay with that, he has 10 years of living there.
The more I think about TAMU’s coaching search the more I don’t get it. Their money could have been used better. They could have gone after Malzahn and made Auburn pay up or offer a ridiculous guarantee. They could have done the same with Kirby Smart. Forcing other programs in the SEC to overspend or make dumb commitments seems like an obvious strategy if money is no object.
The "anti-aggies" grossly overstate the negatives of the school. Bryan-College Station certainly isn't much, but neither is Tallahassee or Gainesville. But A&M is a little over an hour from Houston, the fourth largest city in the US...compare that to Tallahassee or Auburn or Clemson.
While the Aggies can be a little over-the-top at times, they are fiercely loyal and have been for decades. This school that some say is in the middle of nowhere puts way more fannies in the seats on Saturday than any ACC school. Where do you think these people come from?
And although it might have been true at some point that UT was the place to be for all Texas high school kids, recent results indicate that this is no longer the case. The guys in Austin are having a hard time keeping up with TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech...ever been to Lubbock?
For some reason, the school has not hired the "right" coach, or maybe they did hire the right guy and the rich alumni meddled too much. Having lots of money can be a two-edged sword, so who knows if Fisher will be a success in College Station, but the school has lots of assets if they can find the right guy to take advantage of them.
While the Aggies can be a little over-the-top at times, they are fiercely loyal and have been for decades. This school that some say is in the middle of nowhere puts way more fannies in the seats on Saturday than any ACC school. Where do you think these people come from?
And although it might have been true at some point that UT was the place to be for all Texas high school kids, recent results indicate that this is no longer the case. The guys in Austin are having a hard time keeping up with TCU, Baylor and Texas Tech...ever been to Lubbock?
For some reason, the school has not hired the "right" coach, or maybe they did hire the right guy and the rich alumni meddled too much. Having lots of money can be a two-edged sword, so who knows if Fisher will be a success in College Station, but the school has lots of assets if they can find the right guy to take advantage of them.
Aggie fans already have bad first impression of Jimbo.
He got off plane and they had some god awful band there to greet him. He walked right by and didn’t even acknowledge, big no no with Aggie nation...they are all about their band.
Second bad impression was at their basketball game. Some girl tried to do the “saw em off” dance they do and Jimbo was clueless, hadn’t a clue what was going on...Aggie nation not happy about that either.
He got off plane and they had some god awful band there to greet him. He walked right by and didn’t even acknowledge, big no no with Aggie nation...they are all about their band.
Second bad impression was at their basketball game. Some girl tried to do the “saw em off” dance they do and Jimbo was clueless, hadn’t a clue what was going on...Aggie nation not happy about that either.
I have a lot of friends who are Aggies. My sister-in-law is an Aggie. I have yet to see any of them overly excited about landing Jimbo. The majority of them think they gave up too much money for him based upon this year and recent results.
One of my fraternity brothers is married into a family full of Aggies. Ironically, none of them buy into Fisher's mantra about FSU's facilities. He said one of them opined "Facilities don't cause you to get your ass handed to you by Boston College"
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Call me an anti-Aggie if you want but College Station is a flea on a dog's ass compared to Tallahassee or Gainesville. At least you have ocean or natural landscape close by if you're in Tally or Gainesville. Lubbock, College Station, Stillwater.....all the same crap holes with different names.
TCU, Tech and Baylor have all benefited from UT being down but I have a feeling that will change. I still think UT will draw better recruits than A&M simply given the fact that Herman already had ties to Texas high school coaches. OU will always get their pick of the top Texas talent. LSU and Arkansas will too.
Aggie alumni have always meddled too much. It's a holdover from the days of playing second fiddle to Texas. Now, they're not only playing second fiddle to Texas but to Alabama, LSU and Auburn.
some of the comments are hilarious. Wonder if he ever traveled to College Station before deciding to do this?
Jason Staples@DocStaples
I have confirmed that as of this morning FSU has taken steps to begin discussions with Charlie Strong. This does not mean he is now the top candidate, but #FSU fans had better hope #Noles come to terms w/Taggart today to avoid this fate.
8:32 AM - 3 Dec 2017
The Strong rumors are hopefully like politics where people say thing they don't really mean to get people to like them.
"several powerful boosters say the USF coach isn’t likely to get another chance at running a destination program after his failures at Texas. He turns 58 in August." - SOURCE
I have no problem at all with Strong getting another chance at running a destination program. I don't want that chance to come at FSU, though.
I have only one truly inside source and he's quite guarded on the news he's willing to share but he did tell me that the rumors, at least at this time, are typical during any negotiation. It's not like FSU wants to start from scratch if things fall through with Taggart.
If we're insisting on hiring a minority for some crazy reason, why can't our backup be Dino Babers instead of Strong?
So this article is promising. Apparently WT is being silent with administrators at Oregon which likely means he’s just waiting for a completed offer from us.
Hopefully!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articl...sf/2017/12/canzano_a_decision_on_future_o.amp
Hopefully!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articl...sf/2017/12/canzano_a_decision_on_future_o.amp
Not that I want anything bad to befall Strong as I’m sure he’s a decent guy, but I just don’t have faith in him as a coach for a couple of reasons. So I hope we’re not going down that road for anything other than due diligence and leverage.
That does sound promising and sounds exactly like a Jimmy Sexton client.
I just read this too and posted on the other board. Everything I’m reading is at least saying that Taggart wants to be here. Sounds like Sexton is playing both sides like he we’ve known him to do. As I said on the other board, I hope if we get Taggart that we are negotiating with at least Levitt and Cristobal too. I’ve read that the Ducks might be eyeing Cristobal as a replacement should Taggart leave.
If we can get Elko (from Noter Lame) instead, I would prefer that to Leavitt. I do hope we can snag Cristobal, but obviously if he gets offered the Oregon job permanently not just interim then he’s going to take it.
Sounds like a lot of Oregon folks are starting to feel like we did last week. Either stay or go, just make your decision and get things over with.
Agreed...he just failed over at UT. He shouldn’t even be a candidate IMO
