Apparently No One Is Still Getting Up For "Get Up"

[NoleinATL]

I honestly wonder if "Get Up" was an idea John Skipper came up with when he was high on drugs ( reportedly was a user of cocaine then extorted by a dealer which caused his resignation ).

Mike and Mike was a very popular show that was loved by advertisers. To break up that show and then put them against each other magnifies what a dumb idea it was by ESPN decision makers.

Add in the fact the name of the show is just stupid, unless the only demographic they were going for is kids in college. I do not have one friend, co worker or enemy in my age bracket that has to be told to "Get Up" by 7 am EST.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Thought Noles might be playing baseball this weekend, so I checked ESPN3.
No baseball, but you can tune in to #4 Florida State vs #3 Hawai’i beach volleyball...

The game just started. On the app.

 

[DFSNOLE]

I honestly wonder if "Get Up" was an idea John Skipper came up with when he was high on drugs ( reportedly was a user of cocaine then extorted by a dealer which caused his resignation ).

Mike and Mike was a very popular show that was loved by advertisers. To break up that show and then put them against each other magnifies what a dumb idea it was by ESPN decision makers.

Add in the fact the name of the show is just stupid, unless the only demographic they were going for is kids in college. I do not have one friend, co worker or enemy in my age bracket that has to be told to "Get Up" by 7 am EST.

Really. I'm in my office before 6am.

 

[funksouljon]

I’ve caught the show a few times.. I’m such a beadle detractor that I can’t get into the show. The view behind the set is great though!

I’m tuning into Dan Patrick when I listen/watch sports talk shows. I’ve watched him for years and enjoy that show. He doesn’t go the route of skip bayless and say outlandish things, he doesn’t yell like Stephen A, he doesn’t have that annoying voice like cowherd.. he and his “dannettes” just BS sports and other topics for 3 hours.. they seem like guys I would wanna have a beer with and talk sports.

Cowherd is always humble bragging about living in Manhattan beach and living the LA life and skip and those other guys are annoying as hell. I’m rambling on here but I think undisputed is the WORST show I’ve ever seen. I can’t stand the Lebron legacy talk every single freaking episode.. and I’m a Lebron fan!

Agreed with all this. But the most of the Dannettes got lucky to hitch themselves to that wagon. Couple of them (Fritz and McLovin) would drive me crazy after 30.

Not sure how old you are, but when I was growing up (born in 80s grew up in the 90s) sportscenter was a must watch for me. Stu Scott, olberman, Patrick were awesome. Watching the highlights was fun as i was just starting to get into sports myself. Watching shows like baseball tonight or nfl live or whatever the nba equivalent was, was what I enjoyed. Then it all started to changed to this embrace debate style of show and it has gone downhill ever since..

But I don’t know if it’s because as I get older and have more responsibilities than I did when I was 12, I simply don’t watch sports shows except for live sports. I’ll have the Dan Patrick show on when I can, but I’m not making it a point to make sure that I catch the 11pm sports center show. Having apps like bleacher report or warchant or whatever it is makes sportscenter dated news as I have all the results already given to me as they happen.

I’m curious to see how people who are my age have gone the same route. From watching espn at its peak in the 90s, to now only watching espn for live sporting events.

He is old. Like get off my lawn old. I am a touch older than you and feel the same way, but ESPN knows that our demographic has aged out of daily consumption and simply don't focus on those that don't consume as much which equals revenue. ESPN and crew used to be cooler tan the other side of the pillow. Now they are just irritating noise makers.

 

[Ohio1nole]

Agreed with all this. But the most of the Dannettes got lucky to hitch themselves to that wagon. Couple of them (Fritz and McLovin) would drive me crazy after 30.



He is old. Like get off my lawn old. I am a touch older than you and feel the same way, but ESPN knows that our demographic has aged out of daily consumption and simply don't focus on those that don't consume as much which equals revenue. ESPN and crew used to be cooler tan the other side of the pillow. Now they are just irritating noise makers.

I wonder if the 12 year olds now are watching sportscenter like I used to back in the day? Or is everything so digital that they are like I am, where I look at bleacher report, warchant, etc and get my sports info from there.

I’m at work when sportscenter is on in the AM and already in bed by the time it comes on at 11. My 12 year old self would be ashamed of me of how little I watch espn outside of live sports.

I was all in when I was younger.

 

[RangerNole]

Not sure how old you are, but when I was growing up (born in 80s grew up in the 90s) sportscenter was a must watch for me. Stu Scott, olberman, Patrick were awesome. Watching the highlights was fun as i was just starting to get into sports myself. Watching shows like baseball tonight or nfl live or whatever the nba equivalent was, was what I enjoyed. Then it all started to changed to this embrace debate style of show and it has gone downhill ever since..

But I don’t know if it’s because as I get older and have more responsibilities than I did when I was 12, I simply don’t watch sports shows except for live sports. I’ll have the Dan Patrick show on when I can, but I’m not making it a point to make sure that I catch the 11pm sports center show. Having apps like bleacher report or warchant or whatever it is makes sportscenter dated news as I have all the results already given to me as they happen.

I’m curious to see how people who are my age have gone the same route. From watching espn at its peak in the 90s, to now only watching espn for live sporting events.

As someone stated I am "get off my lawn old", old enough to be your pops. 52 in July. I enjoyed SC then because it was fun and informative. Nowadays I can get all the info I need in about 2 minutes with this new fangeled Internet thing. Not sure if it will last but I do enjoy it for the time being.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

Their target audience was tuning in at that hour to watch Sports Center. They probably are upset at having their show taken from them for one that more mimics a NBC/CBS/ABC morning show.

Thing is, this show doesn't really mimic any morning show, Today, GMA, and Kelly+Ryan are all fairly upbeat, with likable personalities who like each other, seem genuine, and have a playful and warm rapport. CBS This Morning is a quality show as well, but is more focused on hard news so they take the demo that wants that.

Get Up has three people who neither have chemistry with one another nor are naturally upbeat people. That's not a criticism of them individually but is a criticism of putting any of them on a show of this nature. I'm a Jalen fan, can't say the same for Beadle or Mike.

ESPN missed the key criteria for a show of this nature at this hour -- fun, upbeat, pleasant, authentic. This show is none of those things. It's forced, contrived, contentious at times, and when it's cloudy in NYC, the show appears a bit dark.

There's a parallel with the ratings issue Megyn Kelly is having on NBC. She's not a natural fit for morning tv, awkwardly sandwiched between relatively bright and cheery broadcasts from Guthrie/Kotb/Roker and KLG/Kotb. She's good at her more natural commentator role, even if I disagree with many positions, however she's not believable or genuine in the live studio audience role she's taken at NBC. Maybe she'd be a better fit at CBS, which I also doubt.

Get Up and MKelly are both square pegs in the cheerful, upbeat round hole of morning television.

 

[kc78]

Greenie worked well when pitted against the more off-beat, jovial personality of Golic. On his own, he's just dour and lacks personality. The two of them together were gold, but I'm starting to think that Golic's schtick was what really made that show tick.

Between the two of them you got an everyman and an intellectual discussion that met somewhere in the middle. I really tried to like Get Up. I've checked back in numerous times and it's just boring and overly serious. It really misses all of the joy that Mike and Mike had. It's a damn shame too.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

NBC, ABC, and CBS have all found people who are able to pleasantly deliver bad news (e.g. Savannah Guthrie) and espn can't even find one person to talk about sports in an upbeat manner really makes you question their hiring and staffing.

That channel just seems full of sour people. A few select individuals like SVP and Kevin Negandhi excluded.

 

[seminole4life1]

John Anderson and Lindsay Czarniak hosting a morning show on ESPN would be amazing. Of course ESPN got rid of Lindsay when she was having another baby so they could feature Jemele...

 

[kc78]

NBC, ABC, and CBS have all found people who are able to pleasantly deliver bad news (e.g. Savannah Guthrie) and espn can't even find one person to talk about sports in an upbeat manner really makes you question their hiring and staffing.

That channel just seems full of sour people. A few select individuals like SVP and Kevin Negandhi excluded.

That's the biggest thing. Sports should be fun, and that's where people like Golic and Stugatz were able to do so. Greenie decided he was a serious journalist, but sports doesn't need serious journalists, at least not all of the time. It needs fun, and goofiness, and also a serious side. That's what made Mike and Mike great. If they can get back to having fun then I'll watch, but until then, listening to angry people talk about something that's supposed to be fun doesn't do it for me.

People complain about Jemelle a lot, but she had a good balance. She could talk about the serious side and then flip and just relish sports and laugh. Her show worked well (Although not as a SportsCenter replacement). I'm just still bummed about losing Mike and Mike as that show was so good.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

That's the biggest thing. Sports should be fun, and that's where people like Golic and Stugatz were able to do so. Greenie decided he was a serious journalist, but sports doesn't need serious journalists, at least not all of the time. It needs fun, and goofiness, and also a serious side. That's what made Mike and Mike great. If they can get back to having fun then I'll watch, but until then, listening to angry people talk about something that's supposed to be fun doesn't do it for me.

People complain about Jemelle a lot, but she had a good balance. She could talk about the serious side and then flip and just relish sports and laugh. Her show worked well (Although not as a SportsCenter replacement). I'm just still bummed about losing Mike and Mike as that show was so good.

IMO morning sports shows should be a bit more fun, but I'm a believer in sports' role in shaping society and pushing progress, so there is a significant need for real journalists who can do both, like Jemelle.

That's where I go back to a show like Today. While they generally bubbly, they certainly report hard news, do real (non-fluff) interviews, etc... but the personalities doing it are upbeat, pleasant, and genuine - and hence a nice way to start the day.

 

[NoleLizards]

Colin Cowherd and Beadle were great together on the original SportsNation, but he's a west coast guy.

 

[Manch.]

Stan Verrett and Neil Everett are great on the SportsCenter overnight/early AM, I would watch/listen to them while up and around getting ready for work.

 

[RangerNole]

You look at the show and wonder if someone said hey if we get a white guy, a black guy and a chick we will own the market.

 

[dero316]

Michelle Beadle

Never forget:
Michelle Beadle calls FSU fans "filth"

 

[GwinnettNole]

I know this isn't related to the Get Up show but on weekends I get up around 7:30 so I flip on ABC for GMA and I've really come to enjoy the show--- news stories (not biased/ they just tell the news), credible hosts, etc.....
One day during the week I flipped on GMA as I was working from home and it was weird-- no news more or less a lot of pop talk, a live studio audience, etc. Not for me.... I actually liked the weekend version better.

 

[dero316]

I know this isn't related to the Get Up show but on weekends I get up around 7:30 so I flip on ABC for GMA and I've really come to enjoy the show--- news stories (not biased/ they just tell the news), credible hosts, etc.....
One day during the week I flipped on GMA as I was working from home and it was weird-- no news more or less a lot of pop talk, a live studio audience, etc. Not for me.... I actually liked the weekend version better.

Yea the weekday version with Stephanopoulos and Robin Roberts is definitely different and I wouldn't use the phrase "not biased" to describe it.
It's on around our house in the mornings and includes more guests, music and entertainment news than the weekend edition(mostly ABC show promotions).

 

[ReliableOstrich]

I know this isn't related to the Get Up show but on weekends I get up around 7:30 so I flip on ABC for GMA and I've really come to enjoy the show--- news stories (not biased/ they just tell the news), credible hosts, etc.....
One day during the week I flipped on GMA as I was working from home and it was weird-- no news more or less a lot of pop talk, a live studio audience, etc. Not for me.... I actually liked the weekend version better.

I'm with you in that I prefer more hard news and less soft stuff like entertainment / pop culture.

However, we're probably in the minority relative to the average morning tv viewer. Give CBS This Morning a try on week days, they're a bit more newsy.

 

[NoleLizards]

Guess I'm weird for normally throwing NBCSN's Pro Football Talk on in the morning.

 

[Random_John]

Bad business is their ultimate downfall moreso than bad shows.

 

[kc78]

IMO morning sports shows should be a bit more fun, but I'm a believer in sports' role in shaping society and pushing progress, so there is a significant need for real journalists who can do both, like Jemelle.

That's where I go back to a show like Today. While they generally bubbly, they certainly report hard news, do real (non-fluff) interviews, etc... but the personalities doing it are upbeat, pleasant, and genuine - and hence a nice way to start the day.

I agree completely. I loved Jemelle's show with Michael Smith. The two were bubbly, enjoyed each other, were fun to listen to, and they dissected social issues deeply. I know they hit them a bit harder than some people were comfortable, but they did it fairly well and they were just fun to listen to.

The problem isn't Greenie, or Beadle, or Rose. The problem is putting the three serious, dour faces together and expecting Greenie's "Charisma" to carry the show (As neither Beadle or Rose have any). They need a comedic side to the show, especially for morning tv and it's not there with those three. There's no laughter, there's no joy, it's just serious news for serious people, and it's boring. Greenie needs a Golic to bounce off of to be enjoyable. He can carry a show, but not without a good foil to work with.

 

[OrlandNole]

This is definitely a case where the sum of the parts is not as great as the whole. We can all agree that Get Up doesn't have a long term future.

What about Golic and Wingo? Greenburg played the straight man on M&M to a T. With Wingo, things come off more schitcky and cringeworthy (though I still listen).

Think Mike and Mike will reunite when Get Up fails?

 

[kc78]

This is definitely a case where the sum of the parts is not as great as the whole. We can all agree that Get Up doesn't have a long term future.

What about Golic and Wingo? Greenburg played the straight man on M&M to a T. With Wingo, things come off more schitcky and cringeworthy (though I still listen).

Think Mike and Mike will reunite when Get Up fails?

I much prefer Golic and Wingo to Get Up, but it still pales in comparison to Mike and Mike.

I think a lot of that would depend on the ego of those two hosts and the status of their relationship. Golic strikes me as a "Company man" who will do what he's told, but whether the chemistry will still be there I don't know. The change was apparently pretty rocky and who knows if Golic even likes Greenie any longer.

Which then brings us to Greenie who has gotten too big for his britches. Would his ego even allow that, or if it fails would he leave and try to do something else? It seems he's convinced that he's a serious newscaster who wants to do something more than sports, which is fine if that's what he wants, but I'm not certain going back to Mike and Mike is something he would happily accept.

I hope they do, and I hope that chemistry is still there when they do. I just don't see it happening.

 

[Finance85]

Yet another perplexing move by a perplexing network.

Exactly my thoughts

 

[NoleMoreTears]

Greenie worked well when pitted against the more off-beat, jovial personality of Golic. On his own, he's just dour and lacks personality. The two of them together were gold, but I'm starting to think that Golic's schtick was what really made that show tick.

Between the two of them you got an everyman and an intellectual discussion that met somewhere in the middle. I really tried to like Get Up. I've checked back in numerous times and it's just boring and overly serious. It really misses all of the joy that Mike and Mike had. It's a damn shame too.

Agree - I have not watched the new show but it was very clear that Mike & Mike succeeded because of the dynamic and not one person over the other. It was just the right mix of trash talk with a pleasant side and both hosts knowing if it ever came to blows or a math contest, who would win.

It felt easy to have Greenberg be the dork and Golic be the big eater and everyone just cool with the banter.

 

[kc78]

Agree - I have not watched the new show but it was very clear that Mike & Mike succeeded because of the dynamic and not one person over the other. It was just the right mix of trash talk with a pleasant side and both hosts knowing if it ever came to blows or a math contest, who would win.

It felt easy to have Greenberg be the dork and Golic be the big eater and everyone just cool with the banter.

exactly. It gave us the full range of the conversation. We got the athlete's side, the everyman side, the intellectual side, the serious side, and the outlandishly funny side.

That's gone on both shows now. It's a shame.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

exactly. It gave us the full range of the conversation. We got the athlete's side, the everyman side, the intellectual side, the serious side, and the outlandishly funny side.

That's gone on both shows now. It's a shame.

Count me as someone that doesn't care for getting all these 'sides'. I simply want highlights and news, even if it's serious or controversial news, delivered by decently pleasant personalities. Do not need 2-5 people disagreeing to create drama or yucking it up with stupid laughs.

Too often these days the anchors/commentators become the 'content' rather than the news/highlights being the content and these people simply being the ones who deliver it.

 

[DFSNOLE]

This is definitely a case where the sum of the parts is not as great as the whole. We can all agree that Get Up doesn't have a long term future.

What about Golic and Wingo? Greenburg played the straight man on M&M to a T. With Wingo, things come off more schitcky and cringeworthy (though I still listen).

Think Mike and Mike will reunite when Get Up fails?

I like Golic and Wingo. Definitely a different dynamic than with M&M. It's more like two guys talking sports while sitting at the bar.

 

[Finance85]

I have to wonder how ESPN is doing market research. They've made a lot of curious decisions over the past year.

About the only one I agree with is taking Jamele Hill off Sports Center.

 

[Ohio1nole]

It just seems like everything is a swing and miss. The SC 6 with hill and Michael smith was terrible. Get up is terrible. First take is terrible. Etc

 

[GwinnettNole]

Bad business is their ultimate downfall moreso than bad shows.

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ESPN may be done (at least what many of us knew it as). I haven’t watched SC or heck Collge Gameday in years....

 

[kc78]

Count me as someone that doesn't care for getting all these 'sides'. I simply want highlights and news, even if it's serious or controversial news, delivered by decently pleasant personalities. Do not need 2-5 people disagreeing to create drama or yucking it up with stupid laughs.

Too often these days the anchors/commentators become the 'content' rather than the news/highlights being the content and these people simply being the ones who deliver it.

Yeah, but that's all covered on the internet now. I think there's place for a show that does that, but that's not why most people are watching tv. If I want hilights, I just open an app and choose the hilights I'm looking for along with scores. I watched Mike and Mike for the fun factor, the insights I hadn't considered, and for it's focus on sports. Neither show currently gives that.

 

[ReliableOstrich]

It just seems like everything is a swing and miss. The SC 6 with hill and Michael smith was terrible. Get up is terrible. First take is terrible. Etc

Yeah, but that's all covered on the internet now. I think there's place for a show that does that, but that's not why most people are watching tv. If I want hilights, I just open an app and choose the hilights I'm looking for along with scores. I watched Mike and Mike for the fun factor, the insights I hadn't considered, and for it's focus on sports. Neither show currently gives that.

The common thread here is that nearly every show where the cast are the "content" has struggled or been a niche favorite.

ESPN ought to roll the dice and do something crazy, like just getting a few likable men and women, reminiscent of SVP, Stuart Scott, Robin Roberts, etc... to just do highlights and tell you sports news, without an abundance of commentary, talking heads, etc...

As I've said, I'm all for discussing the impact of sports on society and justice (I enjoy it and find it critical), however ESPN tends to do it in a contrived and repeated manner that, at least visually, seems to be more about pimping themselves out for ratings than addressing necessary subject matter.

 

[NoleMoreTears]

Count me as someone that doesn't care for getting all these 'sides'. I simply want highlights and news, even if it's serious or controversial news, delivered by decently pleasant personalities. Do not need 2-5 people disagreeing to create drama or yucking it up with stupid laughs.

Too often these days the anchors/commentators become the 'content' rather than the news/highlights being the content and these people simply being the ones who deliver it.

Agree but that's pretty much the only thing cable TV has left going for it. CNN, FOX, ESPN, etc., are all reliant on personalities because you can get content from anywhere without them getting much revenue for it.

 

[kc78]

The common thread here is that nearly every show where the cast are the "content" has struggled or been a niche favorite.

ESPN ought to roll the dice and do something crazy, like just getting a few likable men and women, reminiscent of SVP, Stuart Scott, Robin Roberts, etc... to just do highlights and tell you sports news, without an abundance of commentary, talking heads, etc...

As I've said, I'm all for discussing the impact of sports on society and justice (I enjoy it and find it critical), however ESPN tends to do it in a contrived and repeated manner that, at least visually, seems to be more about pimping themselves out for ratings than addressing necessary subject matter.

I think you're stretching here. I don't think that it's just talking heads that are performing poorly. Mike and Mike wasn't performing poorly, it was still the highest rated show they had. The problem is that people just don't really have a need to tune in. Why do I need to watch SportsCenter anymore when I can just open my phone and find out everything I need and quickly see the top ten plays at the drop of a hat. There's literally almost no need for a straight hilight/scores show any longer.

I do agree that ESPN often does go over the top with drama. Which is why I say shows like Get Up aren't working. They're taking themselves too seriously. Have some freaking fun with your shows, make people laugh, give them a small bit to think about, and then do it around sports news, interviews, analysis, and commentary. Mike and Mike worked because it did all of that and did it well. Sometimes they went overboard (Often driven by either Greenie, Chris Carter, or Herm Edwards who's old man schtick drove me crazy) but most of the time they managed to land somewhere in between.

 

[Finance85]

I like Golic and Wingo, and PTI. I like pleasant and knowledgeable interplay. I don't like trying to stir up controversy where none exists.

 

[QuaZ2002]

I’m sure I’ll get ripped for this, but I’d love to see someone like Charles Barkley on Get Up. That guys funny and isn’t afraid to speak his mind. He also doesn’t take sports so seriously.

 

[fsUTampa]

I'm surprised more of you guys don't like the Dan Le batard Show, then. I think that show hits the perfect amount of sports and fun with some real thought-provoking discussion added in, all while not taking themselves too seriously. I probably don't agree with 75% of Le batard's political views, but I do appreciate the way he presents anything "controversial" and they don't beat topics to death.

 

[DFSNOLE]

I'm surprised more of you guys don't like the Dan Le batard Show, then. I think that show hits the perfect amount of sports and fun with some real thought-provoking discussion added in, all while not taking themselves too seriously. I probably don't agree with 75% of Le batard's political views, but I do appreciate the way he presents anything "controversial" and they don't beat topics to death.

Le Batard is definitely an acquired taste. If you tune in for a standard sports show, you 'll be disappointed. I enjoy it.