I think were talking about the Haitians and Afghan refugees specifically. They are only being offered the vaccine or test.
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I don't think COVID vaccinations are the primary concern when it comes to illegal immigration. Nor should they be...
So if I rob a bank and then call it cash withdrawal, then I won't have to get a vaccination?
An illegal immigrant is not specific to the current group of people in the news.
Somewhere after the priority of figure out what to do with them and not our problem because they are here illegally.
I mean if you think that's what should be done then so be it, but I disagree.
You should because prisons of a cesspool of Covid infections.
The Haitians were outside the US still I thought on the border? If so, then they can't be illegally in the US if they aren't in the country they're trying to gain access, which makes them refugees.
Not 100% sure on that one. I haven't been able to watch the news as much lately, but I do know that some were "deported" and they would have had to be in the US for that to happen, would they not?
Yes just like the Afghan refugees in camps in the US. They are here in the country and vaccines and tests are offered but not mandatory. Kind of a double standard given the severity of things right?
I think there is a difference in being in a refugee camp and being legally allowed into America. They're housing them for now because they have nowhere else to go. If it's determined they can stay in the country then I think they should be vaccinated.
Because I’m sure this policy isn’t going to have a profound negative effect on an already struggling economy SMH
Not as far as I'm concerned. Iyam they should be kicked back out without a vaccine. Imo since they aren't here legally, they don't deserve that government aide.
No they were flown to various locations around the country. In addition to no COVID vax Many have not been vaccinated for anything.
I'm sure those that are terminated will pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Haitians that crossed? If so, I'm not shocked they aren't being vaccinated because they're going to be sent back from what I've seen. Now if they let them stay then make vaccinations a condition precedent to it.
immigrant vaccination requirements are only applicable to those being processed for immigrant intent i.e. they are adjusting status from another visa classification to that of a lawful US permanent resident.
there is zero vaccination requirement (COVID or otherwise) outside of that.
there is zero vaccination requirement (COVID or otherwise) outside of that.
You might be shocked how few of them were actually "sent home." The vast majority were allowed passage into the United States, and then given "appointments" to show up at INS to complete the "intake process." LOL. A good 5% of them may actually do that. The other 95% immediately scattered, and INS has no idea who they are or how to find them.
The approximate ratio is 6k deported back to Haiti since September 19th, 13k admitted. Biden used a Trump administration pandemic era "expulsion" policy that specifically says immigrants can't come into the US if there is a communicable disease in their home country.
Even assuming those numbers are accurate — and I don’t automatically do so — that means we “accepted” twice as many Haitians as we sent home. During a time when Covid, an allegedly deadly virus, is raging. How does that even make walking around sense????
immigrant have been prohibited on the communicable disease basis as part of the Immigration and Naturalization Act for nearly 50 years.
supporting case law is Matter of Vallejos adopted in 1972.
The 13k might not be most recent, not sure. I heard 6k on the news literally as I was typing this out.
I believe the difference is Title 42 causes an "expulsion" rather than a "deportation." Therefore, the migrants are not afforded the right to make a case to stay in the U.S. before an immigration judge. Most are put on flights home within hours of being processed.
It applies to people with immigrant intent only. In other words people who intend to make the US their permanent place of residence.
So I guess a persons intent visit or stay will have great effect on whether or not they can contract or pass on the virus?
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the general ridiculousness of US immigration law and regulation.
Well that’s just wrong. If he’s had it already the immunity is better than a vaccine. Why is that ignored?
Very sorry to hear of all of these losses due to COVID. It’s not something to be cavalier about.
COVID seems to almost randomly strike some folks hard, others less, and others not at all. There is still a lot unknown about the disease and lots of misinformation out there.
Praying it will mutate into something benign
COVID seems to almost randomly strike some folks hard, others less, and others not at all. There is still a lot unknown about the disease and lots of misinformation out there.
Praying it will mutate into something benign
Number three is so true. We had a group over few weeks ago. They’re super vaccine hesitant. But they got exposed to someone and tested negative but still did regeneron. They were explaining it all and I asked why they’d do that if negative when they wouldn’t get vaccine. They really couldn’t explain until we got to politics. They trust desantis. I told them Desantis recommends vaccine but they said it’s Biden pushing it.
We can be making decisions like that.
every Florida resident should probably read the recently enacted SB2006 in its entirety.
If not there will be a huge social safety net to catch them 3.5 trillion to be exact.
It's also funny considering Trump said a month ago that people need to get the vaccine. He got booed for it. I really hate where we're at. Both sides have grifters just feeding crap and even when someone on your own "side" speaks reason you just ignore them then try to get rid of them for not being far enough left or right.
No idea how we end this cycle.
You cant be in the middle no moderates allowed its one extreme or the other. Do and think how we want or get called out for it.
